definitive fuel mileage faq?

[S. B. Lawrence]

seen at http://www.ctm-design.com/prolevr/index.html Worth $68.50?

[George Basinet]

Good morning I have a Prolev'r. It works great however it takes a time to learn how to use it. You actually have to read the directions. It will also install on the rim. At the last Moto Show in Long Beach we saw a better system called a 'Motorcycle Tyrepliers'. Cost around $50. Very simple to operate. Try http://www.extremeoutback.com They also have a variety of cheap ammo cans that look interesting. George Escondido, CA S. B. Lawrence wrote:

>seen at http://www.ctm-design.com/prolevr/index.html > >Worth $68.50? >

[Fred Hink]

The "Tyrepliers" are not new. I have been using the same type of gizmo to break atv tire beads for several years. ATV beads are some of the hardest beads to unseat that there is and this bead breaker really works. The only disadvantage I can see is it isn't very portable. This if for shop or at home use only. I would highly recommend it for those stubborn tires. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Basinet" To: Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Who has used the "Tire Wizard" on a KLR? > Good morning > > I have a Prolev'r. It works great however it takes a time to learn how > to use it. You actually have to read the directions. It will also > install on the rim. At the last Moto Show in Long Beach we saw a > better system called a 'Motorcycle Tyrepliers'. Cost around $50. Very > simple to operate. Try http://www.extremeoutback.com They also have a > variety of cheap ammo cans that look interesting. > > George > Escondido, CA

[Bogdan Swider]

> At the last Moto Show in Long Beach we saw a > better system called a 'Motorcycle Tyrepliers'. Cost around $50. Very > > simple to operate. Try http://www.extremeoutback.com They also have a > variety of cheap ammo cans that look interesting. > > George > Escondido, CA >

Looks interesting, George. But...the price quoted is $ 119.95 for the pliers and $ 223 if they throw in a couple of fancy levers. Bogdan

[Zachariah Mully]

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:10, Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > > Looks interesting, George. But...the price quoted is $ 119.95 for > the pliers and $ 223 if they throw in a couple of fancy levers. > > Bogdan

Scroll a little further down, Bogdan, they have a set designed expressly for motorcycles that you didn't see, and only $49. Z DC

[George Basinet]

Bogdan, You didn't go far enough into the site. $49.95 is the price. I just looked. Course that's California money. Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > >>At the last Moto Show in Long Beach we saw a >>better system called a 'Motorcycle Tyrepliers'. Cost around $50. Very >> >>simple to operate. Try http://www.extremeoutback.com They also have a >>variety of cheap ammo cans that look interesting. >> >>George >>Escondido, CA >> >> >> > Looks interesting, George. But...the price quoted is $ 119.95 for >the pliers and $ 223 if they throw in a couple of fancy levers. > > Bogdan > > >

[wingrj@aol.com]

In a message dated 1/15/03 08:22:47, geobas@... writes:

>At the last Moto Show in Long Beach we saw a >better system called a 'Motorcycle Tyrepliers'. Cost around $50. Very >simple to operate. Try http://www.extremeoutback.com

I was impressed with the look of the motorcycle tireplyers and bought one. Am disapointed with its performance. The feet tended to slide down the tire and away from the rim as they were conpressd. This was used on an IRC GP-1 510x17. I will need to modify the ends of the feet to keep them from sliding up the tire. More $. Viewed best in the text font 'Courier' ___ /___\ (!* *!) __\^-^/__ / ___ \ _/ |___| \_ (__\=/ \=/__) O=|_[ ]_|=O \.---./ | = = | | =.-.= | !_|| ||_! =|| ||= | | | | _____`-'_____ Wish I could go through life like I go through traffic

[Swanee Lawrence]

It looks like just a big special-purpose C-clamp if we're talking about the same thing. Assuming it takes some modification to work well anyway, I was wondering why one couldn't similarly modify a large garden variety C-clamp from any tool outlet (maybe $10-$15) and it wouldn't work about as well? --- WingRJ@... wrote:

> I was impressed with the look of the motorcycle > tireplyers and bought one. > Am disapointed with its performance. The feet tended > to slide down the tire > and away from the rim as they were conpressd. > > This was used on an IRC GP-1 510x17. > > I will need to modify the ends of the feet to keep > them from sliding up the > tire. > More $. > > Viewed best > in the text font > 'Courier' > ___ > /___\ > (!* *!) > __\^-^/__ > / ___ \ > _/ |___| \_ > (__\=/ \=/__) > O=|_[ ]_|=O > \.---./ > | = = | > | =.-.= | > !_|| ||_! > =|| ||= > > | | > | | > _____`-'_____ > > Wish I could go through life > like I go through traffic

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[Bogdan Swider]

> > > I was impressed with the look of the motorcycle tireplyers and bought > one. > Am disapointed with its performance. The feet tended to slide down the > tire > and away from the rim as they were conpressd. > > This was used on an IRC GP-1 510x17. > > I will need to modify the ends of the feet to keep them from sliding up > the > tire. > More $. >

Well that's one problem that I haven't had with my Tire Wizard. I think others, like George Basinet, will agree that it sure pops the bead. It does cost $ 20 more but hey, it works. Bogdan

[Bogdan Swider]

> if there's no compiled list for tuning a KLR for mileage, maybe > we need one! > > thanks for your advice, > scott > >

Mileage - or more correctly range - is very important to me. But....I don't want to do damage by running too lean. I routinely go between 10,000 feet and sea level during one trip. What's worked best for me is the stock 148 main jet, turning out the pilot about 2 and shimming the needle slightly - in my case with two tiny washers from the hardware store. As has been discussed today: it's nice having the instant adjustment pilot screw. I get 50-52 mpg if I ride easy and almost never go below the low 40's even if I ride fast and hard. The only time I see the 30's is going into a strong head wind at high speed. Bogdan