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[PhantomRider3@aol.com]

I learned a while back that the Snell helmet ratings that I valued so much were actually for car impact standards and not for motorcycle. If you have a Snell rated helmet it did pass more tests than a DOT but the testing was not designed around 2 wheeler type impacts. Head injuries from car racing are very different from mellon to pavement moto related get off's. Feel free to correct me if you know different. New small joke: Did you know our country is run by a Dick, a Bush and a Colon? Cheers. Jay Phantomrider3@... Beverly, MA (about 25 miles north of Boston, on the coast) '85 BMW K100 RS, '72 Yamaha CT1 175, Y2K Kawasaki KLR 650 Toss me an email to to purchase my KLR Valve Adjustment and Tire Change VIDEO. Only 19.95 (4.00 S&H), Ah bahgin (MA speak for a great deal). You can see stills from the actual video and all my nutty crazy mods at http://2wheelerjay.tripod.com/jaysworldofinvention/

[Devon Jarvis]

AFAIK Snell has multiple standards for multiple helmet types. The SNELL foundation was originally founded by the family of an auto racer, who was killed in a minor impact because his helmet didn't protect him. But a Snell rated cycle helmet meets its own set of tests, different than car helmets, and whatever else Snell tests. Snell tests for harder impacts than DOT. A DOT helmet will probably protect you better in a lower speed accident since the liner will absorb more force. But a Snell will protect you better from higher-energy impacts, though it may not crush as much (and therefore transmit more force to your head) at a low-speed impact. That's why they're popular (and required) for racing. I got my info from a magazine interview with the testing director of the Snell foundation, that I read a few years ago. Devon A15 PhantomRider3@... wrote:

> > I learned a while back that the Snell helmet ratings that I valued so much > were actually for car impact standards and not for motorcycle. If you have a > Snell rated helmet it did pass more tests than a DOT but the testing was not > designed around 2 wheeler type impacts. > > Head injuries from car racing are very different from mellon to pavement moto > related get off's. > > Feel free to correct me if you know different. > > New small joke: Did you know our country is run by a Dick, a Bush and a Colon? > > Cheers. > > Jay > Phantomrider3@... > Beverly, MA (about 25 miles north of Boston, on the coast) > '85 BMW K100 RS, '72 Yamaha CT1 175, Y2K Kawasaki KLR 650 > > Toss me an email to to purchase my KLR Valve Adjustment and Tire Change > VIDEO. Only 19.95 (4.00 S&H), Ah bahgin (MA speak for a great deal). You > can see stills from the actual video and all my nutty crazy mods at > http://2wheelerjay.tripod.com/jaysworldofinvention/ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., PhantomRider3@a... wrote:

> I learned a while back that the Snell helmet ratings that I valued

so much

> were actually for car impact standards and not for motorcycle. If

you have a

> Snell rated helmet it did pass more tests than a DOT but the

testing was not

> designed around 2 wheeler type impacts. > > Head injuries from car racing are very different from mellon to

pavement moto

> related get off's. > > Feel free to correct me if you know different. >

Jay, Actually, there are Snell helmet standards for everything from competitive auto racing to horseback riding, including one for motorcycling; check out www.smf.org. My understanding is that the Snell motorcycling standard is biased towards impacts expected on the race track, while the DOT standard is oriented more for the street. If you can pick your accident, you can pick the right helmet standard. People go around and around about helmet standards, but the most important thing is to buy a comfortable helmet that fits correctly and that's legal for street use (meets DOT), then wear it religiously. __Arden

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: A DOT helmet will probably > protect you better in a lower speed accident since the liner will absorb > more force. But a Snell will protect you better from higher-energy > impacts, though it may not crush as much (and therefore transmit more > force to your head) at a low-speed impact. That's why they're popular > (and required) for racing. Yup. Whenever I crash in a DOT-only I'm back on my feet in no time, but when I crash in a Snell, I survive, but I'm goofy for days.

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > A DOT helmet will probably > > protect you better in a lower speed accident since the liner will > absorb > > more force. But a Snell will protect you better from higher-energy > > impacts, though it may not crush as much (and therefore transmit > more > > force to your head) at a low-speed impact. That's why they're > popular > > (and required) for racing. > > > Yup. Whenever I crash in a DOT-only I'm back on my feet in no

time,

> but when I crash in a Snell, I survive, but I'm goofy for days.

Maybe the right Snell standard for KLR riders is the one for Mopeds and *low powered vehicles*. __Arden

[Bogdan Swider]

> buy a comfortable helmet then wear it religiously. > > > __Arden >

Does that mean you wear your helmet in church ? Are you a hard shell Baptist ? Doesn't the Pope don a helmet quite often ? It's a bit taller than the ones we wear. Bogdan

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bogdan Swider" wrote:

> > > buy a comfortable helmet then wear it religiously. > > > > > > __Arden > > > Does that mean you wear your helmet in church ? Are you a hard shell > Baptist ? Doesn't the Pope don a helmet quite often ? It's a bit

taller

> than the ones we wear. > Bogdan

Bogdan, You're in a Friday mood on hump-day. I meant wear it like the Mormons wear their special underwear--all the time. Then it can save your bacon. And your butt. But mostly your head. __Arden

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bogdan Swider" wrote: Doesn't the Pope don a helmet quite often ? It's a bit taller > than the ones we wear. Last time we took the Pope riding, he couldn't go over 55 due to that skid lid he had on. But at a smoke break, he did manage to let us know that from now on the priests were allowed to kiss the nuns, as long as they didn't get into the habit.

[Russell Dyck]

Ya and I heard the Pope doesn't wear it off road, oops guess he didn't see that low hanging branch. Mormons have special underwear?

[James L. Miller Jr.]

I thought it was "Walkin 'round in womens underwear" http://www.twistedtunes.com/show/vault/alpha.asp?Var=W second from the top. I could be mistaken millerized

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Russell Dyck" wrote: > Ya and I heard the Pope doesn't wear it off road, oops guess he > didn't see that low hanging branch. > > wear their special underwear--all the time.> > > Mormons have special underwear?