nklr: bike safety

[J. Sherlock]

>I will support whatever it takes to permanently delist you. All was fine until you had to shoot your mouth off about God and homosexuals, topics that don't belong on this list and that you obviously do not have the ability discuss and debate intelligently. Take your homophobia and please exit gracefully stage left.

Who the heck are you to decide what subjects can be discussed? You arrogant, self important, blubbering fool. We all have the right to free speech. You don't have to agree with me, you don't have to like me, although that would be nice. But you MUST allow me my civil right of freedom of speech. Just because I currently support a non-politically correct idea, I'm a bad man. You can make cartoons of folks, call them names, and they have no right to respond because you are the "Z" man. Horse apples. You take a swipe at me, expect a punch in return. Leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. So take your arrogance and gracefully exit stage right. jim_ama585601 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "J. Sherlock" wrote:

> >I will support whatever it takes to permanently delist you. All was

fine until you had to shoot your mouth off about God and homosexuals, topics that don't belong on this list and that you obviously do not have the ability discuss and debate intelligently. Take your homophobia and please exit gracefully stage left. > > Who the heck are you to decide what subjects can be discussed? You

[Zachariah Mully]

On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 15:04, J. Sherlock wrote:

> > Who the heck are you to decide what subjects can be discussed? You

arrogant, self important, blubbering fool. We all have the right to free speech. You don't have to agree with me, you don't have to like me, although that would be nice. But you MUST allow me my civil right of freedom of speech. Just because I currently support a non-politically correct idea, I'm a bad man. You can make cartoons of folks, call them names, and they have no right to respond because you are the "Z" man. Horse apples. You take a swipe at me, expect a punch in return. Leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. So take your arrogance and gracefully exit stage right.

> > jim_ama585601

Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim... First, yes, you have the right to free speech. Whoopee! So do I. We're obviously both passionate about that. Too bad you use your rights to slander and hurt people who've done NOTHING to threaten or harm you, your family or your way of life. Second, I am sorry that you can't distinguish between a pedophile and homosexual. For your enlightenment: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=pedophilia http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=homosexual There's quite a distinction there, and I hope you understand why I am pointing this out (see #1): pedophilia != homosexuality (and vice versa). Third, I don't know why you insist on negative, inflammatory posts. You can't honestly tell me that when you posted your views of homosexuality you were looking to start a *constructive* discussion about homosexuality and christianity on a motorcycle list. Use some common sense here! If you really want to discuss this very interesting topic, perhaps here would be a better place: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay-vs-fundy-xtianity/ Check it out, it's a forum for discussing EXACTLY what you were ranting about. And no, berating people for expressing other opinions on the matter does NOT consitute a constructive discussion, whether you may think so or not. Fourth, this was never an argument (see #3). If it was, I might have respected your opinion. But because you continue to treat this list as dumping ground for whatever garbage that might come out of your head, I think that you should be suspended or banned from the list. And you've ignored all requests to keep your posts on a rational level. As I have shown above, there are other places where a discussion on this topic would be welcome. Fifth, as for leaving you alone... After you finish telling your son that homosexuals are unnatural and a threat to the human race, I bet you tell him that he should just leave them alone, right? So when your kid goes out with his friends and kills/beats someone for their suspected homosexuality, you're going to be the proud father, right? Because those are the values that you're teaching your child. And don't even try to eqivocate on this. "Prejudice is the child of ignorance." -William Hazlitt 1778-1830 Z P.S. to prevent any confusion: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=Prejudice http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ignorance P.P.S. For all those bemoaning the death of NKLR (or something along those lines), it's not dead, and it is great, but this is an abuse of the priveledge (I count myself as well). I just really don't want the list to turn into "What's Fomenting in Jim's Head Today?". Yes, it'd be entertaining, but tiring as well as boring, you can only listen to that crap so much. So keep posting all that random stuff, whether that be 50 uses for an orbital sander, or why the USFS should be doing things different, that's discussion material. Telling someone that they are a threat to the human race is not.

[wa4tij]

Freedom of speech does not mean anyone can say what they want, when they want to, and/or where they want to. That is why there are slander and libel laws. This dialog is akin to shouting fire in a theater. It's entertaining like watching a train wreck. Robert A14 (with a new doohicky ready to install)

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "J. Sherlock" wrote: > >I will support whatever it takes to permanently delist you. All was fine until you had to shoot your mouth off about God and homosexuals, topics that don't belong on this list and that you obviously do not have the ability discuss and debate intelligently. Take your homophobia and please exit gracefully stage left. > Who the heck are you to decide what subjects can be discussed? You arrogant, self important, blubbering fool. We all have the right to free speech. You don't have to agree with me, you don't have to like me, although that would be nice. But you MUST allow me my civil right of freedom of speech. Just because I currently support a non- politically correct idea, I'm a bad man. You can make cartoons of folks, call them names, and they have no right to respond because you are the "Z" man. Horse apples. You take a swipe at me, expect a punch in return. Leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. So take your arrogance and gracefully exit stage right. > > jim_ama585601 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bogdan Swider]

> The big fist is pitiful. >

Where's this leading to ? Next it'll be gerbils. Bogdan

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bogdan Swider" wrote:

> > > The big fist is pitiful. > > > Where's this leading to ? Next it'll be gerbils. > > Bogdan

Sherlock'll know what it's about.

[Zachariah Mully]

On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 17:09, Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > > The big fist is pitiful. > > > Where's this leading to ? Next it'll be gerbils. > > Bogdan >

Or pussy-cats. Z

[dooden]

Boggy.. I send ya a razor, and no I dont want it back. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bogdan Swider" wrote: > > > The big fist is pitiful. > > > Where's this leading to ? Next it'll be gerbils. > > Bogdan

[J. Sherlock]

Hey Bum, How is it going? I felt for you when you got your old ride stolen. I know what that feels like. Anyway, I was at Home Depot and Wal-Mart this weekend when I saw some items that brought you to mind. It seems you have to chain up your bike outside and hope and pray. Well, maybe you don't after all. Rubbermaid and other mfg.'s make a light weight, double walled with honey comb style inner construction cabinets that will hold motorcycles, riding mowers, small tractors, bicycles, etc. They are lockable, breathable to prevent condensation build up and they have a floor so thieves can't just pick it up and walk away. Don't know if it will work for you, thought it might be an idea though. Out of sight, out of mind. Plus weather protection. Heck, you could even install a small space heater on a timer to warm up your bike before you go each day. jim_ama585601 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]