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greenmachine_a13
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Post by greenmachine_a13 » Mon Oct 07, 2002 9:34 am

David, Thanks for the info, but you mention to "get the recommended sag within specs". Unfortunately nowhere in the manual, can this spec be found that I know of. However, a quick search of the Internet finds that this is somewhat of subjective spec. Based on the opinion of the tuner and whether the bike is used for street or off road. In your opinion, what is a good compromise for the KLR that is used mostly for street, but gets used occasionally on the trail? Mark A13
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > DO NOT USE MOTOR OIL. Go to 20w fork oil, and you should notice a significant difference, at least until you can afford new spring. Also install spaces to preload the fork, and get the recommeded sag within specs, or use air pressure for the same reason since they are air forks. But use a low pressure pump, the seals can be easily blown with too high a pressure. > Also check smaller shop, some sell fork a lot cheaper. > Hope this helps, Dave > > > greenmachine_a13 wrote:Looking for an economical way to improve the front suspension. I know > replacing the fork springs is the right way to do it, but can't do > expense right now. As anyone found the right setup in oil weight, oil > level or adding spacers that will improve the stock front suspension? > Currently it seems OK on the street, but when I take it on the trail > the front end bottoms out occasionally with my 190lbs bod & gear. > > Also the factory manual calls out for SAE 10W20 (motor oil?) set to > 190mm with the forks fully compressed. Should I first try going to a > 10W30 motor oil or go with one of those pricey fork oils that is only > available in a single weight? > > Mark > a13 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > faith.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

david gay
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Post by david gay » Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:55 pm

Mark I think you could get a pretty good plush ride if you set it at about 3 ", like you mentioned it pretty subjective. Give it a try and see how it feels. Good luck, and have fun, Dave greenmachine_a13 wrote:David, Thanks for the info, but you mention to "get the recommended sag within specs". Unfortunately nowhere in the manual, can this spec be found that I know of. However, a quick search of the Internet finds that this is somewhat of subjective spec. Based on the opinion of the tuner and whether the bike is used for street or off road. In your opinion, what is a good compromise for the KLR that is used mostly for street, but gets used occasionally on the trail? Mark A13
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > DO NOT USE MOTOR OIL. Go to 20w fork oil, and you should notice a significant difference, at least until you can afford new spring. Also install spaces to preload the fork, and get the recommeded sag within specs, or use air pressure for the same reason since they are air forks. But use a low pressure pump, the seals can be easily blown with too high a pressure. > Also check smaller shop, some sell fork a lot cheaper. > Hope this helps, Dave > > > greenmachine_a13 wrote:Looking for an economical way to improve the front suspension. I know > replacing the fork springs is the right way to do it, but can't do > expense right now. As anyone found the right setup in oil weight, oil > level or adding spacers that will improve the stock front suspension? > Currently it seems OK on the street, but when I take it on the trail > the front end bottoms out occasionally with my 190lbs bod & gear. > > Also the factory manual calls out for SAE 10W20 (motor oil?) set to > 190mm with the forks fully compressed. Should I first try going to a > 10W30 motor oil or go with one of those pricey fork oils that is only > available in a single weight? > > Mark > a13 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > faith.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

rcdyck
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Post by rcdyck » Mon Oct 07, 2002 7:21 pm

I forgot, what is sag again? Sorry I still dodn't have a manuel yet. Payday is still six weeks away. Thats the one bumber about being self employed. In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote:
> > Mark I think you could get a pretty good plush ride if you set it
at about 3 ", like you mentioned it pretty subjective. Give it a try and see how it feels. Good luck, and have fun, Dave
> > > greenmachine_a13 wrote:David, > > Thanks for the info, but you mention to "get the recommended sag > within specs". Unfortunately nowhere in the manual, can this spec
be
> found that I know of. However, a quick search of the Internet
finds
> that this is somewhat of subjective spec. Based on the opinion of
the
> tuner and whether the bike is used for street or off road. In your > opinion, what is a good compromise for the KLR that is used mostly > for street, but gets used occasionally on the trail? > > > Mark > A13 > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > > > DO NOT USE MOTOR OIL. Go to 20w fork oil, and you should notice
a
> significant difference, at least until you can afford new spring. > Also install spaces to preload the fork, and get the recommeded
sag
> within specs, or use air pressure for the same reason since they
are
> air forks. But use a low pressure pump, the seals can be easily > blown with too high a pressure. > > Also check smaller shop, some sell fork a lot cheaper. > > Hope this helps, Dave > > > > > > greenmachine_a13 wrote:Looking for an economical way to improve > the front suspension. I know > > replacing the fork springs is the right way to do it, but can't
do
> > expense right now. As anyone found the right setup in oil
weight,
> oil > > level or adding spacers that will improve the stock front > suspension? > > Currently it seems OK on the street, but when I take it on the > trail > > the front end bottoms out occasionally with my 190lbs bod &
gear.
> > > > Also the factory manual calls out for SAE 10W20 (motor oil?) set
to
> > 190mm with the forks fully compressed. Should I first try going
to
> a > > 10W30 motor oil or go with one of those pricey fork oils that is > only > > available in a single weight? > > > > Mark > > a13 > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > > faith.yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List
FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html
> Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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dooden
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Post by dooden » Mon Oct 07, 2002 9:39 pm

The difference the suspension sinks between bare bike and you +gear. Say: Measure distance from axle to a non moving part on bike with the bike standing straight up, then have a buddy measure same distance with you on the bike +gear, feet touching just enuff to balance the bike upright. The rear end can be adjusted by turning the preload bolt on the left side of bike, topside of rear shock. 1-5 are the settings, 1 being least preload, 5 being the most. I just set mine to 5 since I will ride 2 up once and awhile, not to mention as David puts it, I have a fat ass or something like that. 5'11" around 200~220 I think. Dooden
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "rcdyck" wrote: > I forgot, what is sag again? > Sorry I still dodn't have a manuel yet. > Payday is still six weeks away. > Thats the one bumber about being self employed. > > > > > In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > > > Mark I think you could get a pretty good plush ride if you set it > at about 3 ", like you mentioned it pretty subjective. Give it a > try and see how it feels. Good luck, and have fun, Dave > > > > >

rcdyck
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Post by rcdyck » Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:35 pm

Cool, thank you I,m 6'4" and about 220pounds and I've got mine set at two, so maybe I'll take it up to about a three or four. Thanks Russell - In DSN_klr650@y..., "dooden" wrote:
> The difference the suspension sinks between bare bike and you
+gear.
> > Say: Measure distance from axle to a non moving part on bike with
the
> bike standing straight up, then have a buddy measure same
distance
> with you on the bike +gear, feet touching just enuff to balance
the
> bike upright. > > The rear end can be adjusted by turning the preload bolt on the
left
> side of bike, topside of rear shock. 1-5 are the settings, 1
being
> least preload, 5 being the most. > > I just set mine to 5 since I will ride 2 up once and awhile, not
to
> mention as David puts it, I have a fat ass or something like that. > > 5'11" around 200~220 I think. > > Dooden > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "rcdyck" wrote: > > I forgot, what is sag again? > > Sorry I still dodn't have a manuel yet. > > Payday is still six weeks away. > > Thats the one bumber about being self employed. > > > > > > > > > > In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > > > > > Mark I think you could get a pretty good plush ride if you set
it
> > at about 3 ", like you mentioned it pretty subjective. Give it
a
> > try and see how it feels. Good luck, and have fun, Dave > > > > > > > > >

Graeme Hoose
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potential klr 600 owner

Post by Graeme Hoose » Tue Oct 08, 2002 6:55 am

Hi guys, I am the potential buyer of an '86 ( UK D Reg ) KLR 600, with 10,500 miles on the clock.. Went to see it on Saturday and have the scars to prove it :) It has been stood for an extended period of time after a rebuild by a Kawasaki mechanic ( he worked at Daytonas in Ruislip ) ,who unfortunately died of cancer. It has a Wiseco piston , Dynojet stage 1 and new valves , but has not been run in yet since the build. Kicking it was a no go , as the battery hadn't been charged for 18 months only got two goes on the button before it died. Top end did dound a bit rattly, but this could be due to new valves not being correctly set. Also it was impossible to kick , and a missing side panel ended up with me gouging a chunk out of the back of my leg trying to find TDC. The panel does exist somehere in a huge box of bits that comes with it. So okay , what other potential probs, things should I look for ? Are there knobblies available for this model in the UK ? How much and how easy is it to source consumables ? Will this perform on UK Green lanes ? Okay the last one is relative, but as I have been told it may be too heavy by people who find XL250's too heavy ! As I am six foot tall and allegedly built like a brick outhouse I am in the habit of bodily picking the SO's XL up when it gets in the way in the workshop. Are there any decent english language websites on tuning and tips ? ( Only been able to find German and Italian ones ) How easy is it to set valves and timing ? Any others on this list within striking distance of North Hertfordshire ? Okay enough of the questions ! Cheers Scouse banditrider.com ~ WhooHoo, abuse it 'til the valves bounce! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Well as much as it can be ... Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/02

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