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[ghostrob]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding rollers after about 6000 miles. Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? cheers Rob Okey 96 KLRA10

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote:

> Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > rollers after about 6000 miles. > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day

(doing

> long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > cheers > > Rob Okey > 96 KLRA10

Rob, What kind of lube were you using? My chains last more like 12,000 miles with maybe one or two real cleanings in their lifetime (using kerosene), if they're lucky. I use KalGard Chain Kote from www.kalgard.com, which MCN missed when they did their big review. It's pretty sticky and has a lot of moly in it. I use it on both the KLR and my VFR 750. We don't get a lot of rain in SoCal, but I do ride in the rain when it happens, and in the dirt, and the Kal Gard sticks pretty well. __Arden A11

[dooden]

WHAT ? you are suspose to clean chains ? Does'nt that take off all the axle grease we spread on them to keep them from rusting ? Figured a mud bath once and a while is enuff for me. Duden (btw there is sarcasim in there, for the sarcismless folks) Golly Gee Wally... Is sarcasimless a word ? huh

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Arden Kysely" wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote: > > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > > rollers after about 6000 miles. > > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day > (doing > > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > > > cheers > > > > Rob Okey > > 96 KLRA10 > > Rob, > > What kind of lube were you using? My chains last more like 12,000 > miles with maybe one or two real cleanings in their lifetime (using > kerosene), if they're lucky. I use KalGard Chain Kote from > www.kalgard.com, which MCN missed when they did their big review. > It's pretty sticky and has a lot of moly in it. I use it on both the > KLR and my VFR 750. We don't get a lot of rain in SoCal, but I do > ride in the rain when it happens, and in the dirt, and the Kal Gard > sticks pretty well. > > __Arden A11

[Devon Jarvis]

I got 13,500mi out of my stock KLR chain and rear sprocket. 14t fronts would last 3,000mi or so. I used a Scottoiler for all but the last 2,000mi, since I would occasionally snag the tubing on heavy brush. By your standards the chain was still good to use, since it had no kinks or tight spots, and the rollers were intact (though they jingled like little bells). You can use anything in a Scottoiler, as long as it will flow. I used the Scottoil, ATF, Amsoil Bar'n'Chain oil, Mobil 10w40, 90w gear oil, etc. Cleaning the chain consisted of spraying WD-40 on it then wiping it with a rag. The bike saw a LOT of dirt, rain, mud, and sand. Sometimes I would clean the chain by just turning up the scottoiler to maximum and riding on the highway. The chain would be clean in a matter of miles, though the bike would get pretty dirty. What mix of dirt-street riding do you do? Devon ghostrob wrote:

> > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > rollers after about 6000 miles. > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > cheers > > Rob Okey > 96 KLRA10 >

[James L. Miller Jr.]

Works for me. ATF from your local wally world. Over 13K on the original chain (so far). With the exception of the 2 links that the master link goes into, the chain is still tight enough to stand up on it's own. A better reason for owning one was that I got it for $89 shipped, on Ebay! Haven't looked for a while. Chain is probably good for another 5k if I keep and eye on those 2. millerized

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > rollers after about 6000 miles. > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > cheers > > Rob Okey > 96 KLRA10

[Richard Baker]

I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet If you haven't already read it, here's an installation article on the Dual Sport News site (http://www.dualsportnews.com/klr/scott2.html) -Rick

----- Original Message ----- From: "ghostrob" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > rollers after about 6000 miles. > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > cheers > > Rob Okey > 96 KLRA10 > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[PauL M. Bober]

I have almost 70K on my A9 in 3 years. I bought an 'oiler when I got the bike. I am just now 1/2 of the way through my X-ring chain that I bought at the time I bought the 'oiler. They are a little messy ... Use the Scott oil with it and spend a lot of money for a lube that does not leave a hard to clean mess or buy 1 gaallon of 90wt. gear lube like I did and WD 40 to clean on a regular basis. Oh, get a center stand or pit bike stand ... man does that make chain maintance easy. I have the large .. but not touring model reservoir. Fits nicely under the fuel tank and has easy access for the every few days filling ..like I said 70K miles in 3 years. PauL M. Bober A9 420 KTM - for sale 89 F1 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Baker [mailto:rgbman@...] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:12 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet

[Devon Jarvis]

I used one, it's great. I took it off because it didn't seem to suit the type of offroading I do. I used whatever oil I had on hand- ATF, 10w40, 90w, chainsaw oil, Scottoil (which seems like a mix of ATF and chainsaw oil). I'm 3,000mi into my WD-40 experiment (new chain and sprockets, WD-40 only on chain) and we'll see what happens. If the wear rates are comparable, I'll just put the scottoiler back on. If I rode almost all street I would definitely reinstall the Scottoiler. Devon Richard Baker wrote:

> > I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am > contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I > haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet >

[Lujo Bauer]

I have a HawkeOiler. You push a button when you want some oil to drip on the chain. Works great for me. -Lujo

> I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am > contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess > though, but I > haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet > > If you haven't already read it, here's an installation article on the

Dual

> Sport News site (http://www.dualsportnews.com/klr/scott2.html) > > -Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ghostrob" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:44 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives > > > > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler? > > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding > > rollers after about 6000 miles. > > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning > > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing > > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help. > > > > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity? > > > > cheers > > > > Rob Okey > > 96 KLRA10

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[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Richard Baker" wrote:

> I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am > contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess

though, but I

> haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet >

I considered the scottoiler, but a couple of lukewarm reviews and the price dissuaded me. For $37.95, the Loobman is a simple, relatively low-cost alternative. I don't know about 40W as a long-term chain preservative, but a squeeze on the plastic oil reservoir every tankful or so keeps my chain and sprocket nicely slimed.