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[Justin Carlson]

Hello all, Two questions for ya regarding tools and fasteners. I've been fixing up my 1993 KLR 650 hap-hazard with a set of Metawrench tools. I bought them from a "friend." These don't fit so well and tend to strip the nuts, bolts and screws. Does Anyone have any suggestions for a good set of metric tools? Most of the sets I've seen include SAE, fractional components that will be wasted on me. Also Any suggestions as to where to pick up bolts, screws and other fasteners in NYC. The stock parts get pretty expensive . Thanks, Justin 212-659-8679w 917-570-1296c _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

[RM]

On Wed, 8 May 2002, Justin Carlson wrote:

>strip the nuts, bolts and screws. Does Anyone have any suggestions for a >good set of metric tools? Most of the sets I've seen include SAE, >fractional components that will be wasted on me.

I have good luck with mid-priced tools. Kobalt from Lowe's. Stanley from Pep Boys. Husky from Home Depot. Durabilt from Target. Sears (or OSH) Craftsman, but only when they're on sale. Even the Popular Mechanics tools from Wal-Mart have been pretty solid for me. 90% of my KLR work involves the following: * Metric hex wrenches. Get a set of 'em. Typical sets run from about 2mm up to 7mm or so. I don't think the KLR has any .5's (ie 5.5mm). Something like this, but without the SAE: http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=77695-000075182-88036 * Combination wrenches. 8, 10, 12, and 14mm will cover 90% of the bike. http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=68937-000076335-PRFM11-4 * Socket set. You'll need the sizes above plus a few oddball larger ones if you're going to tackle odd stuff like lubricating the rear suspension. Something like this but you won't need the deep-welled sockets: http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=45070-000776588-03802 You can buy the larger oddballs one at a time or shoot the wad and get this set. I hated spending this much but Sears really hit a home-run with their selection of sizes and I've enjoyed owning this: http://makeashorterlink.com/?W29E105D It even has the bastard 27mm for the countershaft nut. To drive 'em, get a 1/2" drive flex-handle and maybe one 3" extension. * Screwdrivers. Just a normal five-piece set will do, plus you'll need a #3 Phillips for a handful of body fasteners.

[Motorcycle_Dan]

> Does Anyone have any suggestions for a good set of metric tools?

Justin, Good as in best bang for the buck? Go to any K-Mart and look at the "Benchtop" brand of tools. Wal-Mart carries either "Popular Mechanics" or "Stanley" brand. All good working tools. If you have way more money than brains or mechanical aptitude, consider these: Snap on, Mack, Mat-Co, Craftsman. IMHO, Dan /|\

[Mike Daugherty]

http://www.cruztools.com/ Good source for affordable motorcycle tool kits. Mike A16

> -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Carlson [mailto:carlsonjustin@...] > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:04 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Tools and fasteners > > > Hello all, > > Two questions for ya regarding tools and fasteners. > > I've been fixing up my 1993 KLR 650 hap-hazard with a set of Metawrench > tools. I bought them from a "friend." These don't fit so well and tend to > strip the nuts, bolts and screws. Does Anyone have any suggestions for a > good set of metric tools? Most of the sets I've seen include SAE, > fractional > components that will be wasted on me. > > Also Any suggestions as to where to pick up bolts, screws and other > fasteners in NYC. The stock parts get pretty expensive . > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > 212-659-8679w > 917-570-1296c > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[judjonzz]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Motorcycle_Dan" wrote:

> > Does Anyone have any suggestions for a good set of metric

tools?

> Justin, > Good as in best bang for the buck? Go to any K-Mart and look

at

> the "Benchtop" brand of tools. Wal-Mart carries either "Popular > Mechanics" or "Stanley" brand. All good working tools. If you

have

> way more money than brains or mechanical aptitude, consider

these:

> Snap on, Mack, Mat-Co, Craftsman. > IMHO, > Dan /|\

There does seem to be a wide availability of good -quality, inexpensive tools around, unlike, say twenty years ago. However, if you are using them every day, there are still a number of good reasons to prefer Snap-on, cost notwithstanding: 1. fit. These wrenches fit the fasteners they are supposed to fit, very well. Only an issue when you have a nut corroded on a stud, in a barely acccessible location. 2. flank drive. snap-ons bear on the center of the flat instead of on the corners. I have seen Snap-ons break loose fasteners that have already been rounded off by cheap (Craftsman) wrenches.. There may be an expired patent here, as I have seen this design feature on some off-brand wrenches lately. If so, this is worth looking for on cheaper wrench sets. 3.size. Snap-on is typically constructed with better material, so the sockets and the rings on the box-ends are slimmer, go into closer quarters. Often a Snap-on will go into a space where a cheaper tool needs to be ground to fit. 4. Finish. Polished finish is a lot easier on the hands day in and day out than the rough-cast finish often found on cheaper tools. 5. The Snap-on ratcheting screwdriver, is one of the slickest, handiest tools you could ever use. I have tried plenty of other ratcheting drivers; Snap-on is simply the best, easiest, smoothest and fastest to use. 6. you know what you are getting. Not always the case with other tools. Craftsman is coasting on its reputation. They have some good stuff, but also a lot of crap, especially wrenches. In short, there is a difference. Whether it justifies the price, you decide.

[klrz4ever]

Whatever you buy, look for six-point sockets instead of 12-point, especially in the small sizes. __Arden

[Motorcycle_Dan]

> there are still a number of good > reasons to prefer Snap-on, cost notwithstanding:

I agree and have several snap on tools in my set. But that said, I would never recommend them to someone. Way too expensive unless you can write them off on taxes and you have a snap on dealer (truck) that frequents your shop regularly. And then reality sinks in. I really use my benchtop sockets more than the snapon. I do the typical rude things like cheater bars and air tools where I should not. They keep taking it. I Have broke one: 1/2" drive 27mm. A 3/4 dr I/R impact, with snap-on 3/4-1/2 adapter. It split where the 36" pipe wrench was biting into it. Returned it to K-mart where they looked at me funny and replaced it. Actually the lady at the service counter wanted to give me the whole set. I said just that 27mm please. That stubborn nut ever come off? Yep, out came the blue wrench. Nut came off then.... Don't mess with a neanderthal what owns a torch

[Jim]

The 'blue wrench' - hadn't heard that one before! What I really wanna know is where do all my 10mm sockets go? They are like socks! I have like 2-3 sets of sockets and I'd bet I'm missing the 10mm out of all of em! jim

On Thursday, May 09, 2002, Motorcycle_Dan wrote: M> That stubborn nut ever come off? Yep, out came the blue wrench. Nut M> came off then.... M> Don't mess with a neanderthal what owns a torch

[Scott Adams]

A-MEN! I think they are all combining into useless 20's! -Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Tools and fasteners > The 'blue wrench' - hadn't heard that one before! > > What I really wanna know is where do all my 10mm sockets go? They are > like socks! I have like 2-3 sets of sockets and I'd bet I'm missing > the 10mm out of all of em! > > jim > > On Thursday, May 09, 2002, Motorcycle_Dan wrote: > M> That stubborn nut ever come off? Yep, out came the blue wrench. Nut > M> came off then.... > M> Don't mess with a neanderthal what owns a torch > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[wingrj@aol.com]

In a message dated 5/8/02 20:06:08, carlsonjustin@... writes:

>I've been fixing up my 1993 KLR 650 hap-hazard with a set of Metawrench >tools. I bought them from a "friend." These don't fit so well and tend to >strip the nuts, bolts and screws.

Man, I've got to counter what he said about Metawrenches. I bought a set several years ago, and love them. My car has a Japanese engine and a American frame. One set works for both. I use the set as an addition to the rest of my tools, not as the sole tool. Viewed best in the text font 'Courier' ___ /___\ (!* *!) __\^-^/__ / ___ \ _/ |___| \_ (__\=/ \=/__) O=|_[ ]_|=O \.---./ Wish I could go through life like I go through traffic