photo fron a few weeks back

[bsetliff]

Could some of you long-time street riders share some tips on how to get noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out on the roads? I'm gonna be new to street riding and have heard the horror stories of drivers pulling out in front of bikers, etc. Aside from wearing bright clothing, are there any other things you'd recommend? Any tips?? Anything we can put on our bikes to make them more visible? PS - and yes, I am going to take the MSF course real soon

[dale_johnson13]

Right now I have an aftermarket Big-C modified pipe. It is an old 2 bros racing can with no baffles. I can be heard for miles. I ride with my high-beams on, kick cars that almost kill me and ohh.. I also have a dune flag on my bike right now. So if you're in so cal and see a KLR with an 8-foot whip with an orange flag with reflective patches on it. It's me. Dale (flame suite on)

[btl6847]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "bsetliff" wrote:

> Could some of you long-time street riders share some tips on how to > get noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out on the roads? > I'm gonna be new to street riding and have heard the horror stories > of drivers pulling out in front of bikers, etc. Aside from wearing > bright clothing, are there any other things you'd recommend? Any > tips?? Anything we can put on our bikes to make them more visible? > > PS - and yes, I am going to take the MSF course real soon

My biggest piece of advice is to remember this; When you are on the road, YOU ARE INVISIBLE, AND EVERYONE IS OUT TO KILL YOU! And, keep a smile on your face! You are doing what 95% of the population has no guts/intrest in doing. They are the ones missing out! Good luck, and have FUN! Brian A12 P.S. I have been riding on the road for 18 years, dirt even longer. Every year more cars get on the road, so the problems get worse. MSF is your best bet to learn good habits, so definitely don't miss out!

[RM]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, bsetliff wrote:

>Could some of you long-time street riders share some tips on how to get >noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out on the roads? I'm >gonna be new to street riding and have heard the horror stories of >drivers pulling out in front of bikers, etc. Aside from wearing bright >clothing, are there any other things you'd recommend? Any tips?? >Anything we can put on our bikes to make them more visible?

I don't know why, but these horror stories never happen to me. Situational awareness? My solid white helmet? Defensive riding? Beats the hell out of me... RM

[dale_johnson13]

maybe it's cause you wern't white lining doing about 45 in traffic that was doing 20-25 when the lady decided to get out of the car pool lane across the double yellow. (that was me about a year and 4 months ago.. I don't do that any more. I thing being side swipped by a chevy woke me up. Dale

[Lujo Bauer]

> Could some of you long-time street riders share some tips on how to > get noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out on the roads?

Paint your bike yellow. I'm not kidding, it makes a huge difference. -Lujo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Scott Adams]

Something that has helped me for over 100g safe miles (in addition to all the great things said about acting like they don't see you) is to be where they would be looking. Think about it for a second. Cagers look to 1 corner of a car. Ex: If they are in the middle or right hand lane of the freeway and want to move left they are looking for the right front headlight of the car. If you are on a two lane and the car is coming at you (or worse yet, waiting to turn left), they are looking for the left front headlight. BE WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING. The worst is the car waiting to pull out from a side street. It is hard to say what they are looking for so it never hurts to be EVERYWHERE or move about a bit in your lane. Motion gets notion (or noted). Think about this when you are caging it and it'll make you a safer rider. -Scott Scott C. Adams Scott@... or www.attorneyadams.com 20565 S.W. Tualatin Valley Hwy., #301, Aloha, Oregon 97006 (503) 324-0111 or fax (503) 324-1127 From: "btl6847"

> > Could some of you long-time street riders share some tips on how to > > get noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out on the roads?

[John Lyon]

Bsetliff: A few things I have found useful: 1. As someone stated previously assume NOBODY sees you. 2. In multi-lane traffic avoid blind spots, adjust your speed so you are ahead of a car or stay behind a vehicle far enough so if they cut you off they will not hit you. 3. Use aux. brake lamps. I use the flashing Lifebrights and they help. Keep an eye on the rear view mirrors when you are stopped. Have an escape route if you sense the driver behind you does not see you. A good friend of mine was almost killed when he was rear ended at a stoplight. The impact launched him and his bike into oncoming intersection traffic. 4. Use the high beam during the day. 5. Keep two fingers on the front brake and the clutch when riding. The tenth of a second you save in reaction time could save your bacon. 6. As RM said situational awareness (SA) know what is going on around you and have an escape plan, this means using the mirrors and looking around 7. Get a loud horn. The stocker if good for waking up bugs 10ft in front of the headlight, but not very effective for brain dead, cell phone using, cagers driving a 2 ton projectile while listening to music at 110 decibles. YMMV, John --- bsetliff wrote:

> Could some of you long-time street riders share some > tips on how to > get noticed by drivers of those 4 wheeled things out > on the roads? > I'm gonna be new to street riding and have heard the > horror stories > of drivers pulling out in front of bikers, etc. > Aside from wearing > bright clothing, are there any other things you'd > recommend? Any > tips?? Anything we can put on our bikes to make them > more visible? > > PS - and yes, I am going to take the MSF course real > soon

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[Barnaby Robson]

ok my safety tip, to go along with the other great safety tips ! .. Go slow ... be paranoid .. use the front brake and be ready to stop at all times ... remember a collision can only occur if you hit something !!! that sounds obvious but the safest thing you can do is to be ready at all times. .. you should practice being able to stop before you come into contact with any car that invades your space and right of way. i live in a town where people are asleep at the wheel .. driving home is scary and speed is a luxury i can't afford ! barnaby.

[bsetliff]

Thanks for the tips guys. I did a little web searchin and found some interesting products I might look into... http://www.kisantech.com/ http://www.lifebrite.com/ I also might looking into swapping my white Nolan N100 for a yellow N100. Thanks again!!