what did you learn from your nklr yesterday?

[RM]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, matthew wrote:

>mine did that this morning and jumped forward and killed, after restart >was fine. it does that sometimes. Just changed oil, now using quaker >10-40 would type of oil help this?

Heavier oils seem to cause more stickage. 10w-40 should help.

[Mark Wilson]

My bike will do that when cold, UNLESS, I pull in the clutch, and rev the motor a few times first. That seems to do the trick, and it goes into first with no problem. MotorMark

----- Original Message ----- From: "kryzytski" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] clutch trouble > I have a 2001 KLR650 w/ 900 miles. Since the day I got it, when the > engine is cold (only), when I put it into 1st gear, the bike leaps > forward and stalls. I've learned to put it into 2nd, then 1st, then > go. My dealer has no clue as to the problem. After the bike is warmed > up there is no problem. > Also, bike is very hard to start in cold weather (under 35 degrees F.) > > Any suggestions on the clutch problem??? > > misha

[kryzytski]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote:

> My bike will do that when cold, UNLESS, I pull in the clutch, and

rev the

> motor a few times first. That seems to do the trick, and it goes

into first

> with no problem. > > MotorMark > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kryzytski" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:28 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] clutch trouble > > > > I have a 2001 KLR650 w/ 900 miles. Since the day I got it, when

the

> > engine is cold (only), when I put it into 1st gear, the bike leaps > > forward and stalls. I've learned to put it into 2nd, then 1st,

then

> > go. My dealer has no clue as to the problem. After the bike is

warmed

> > up there is no problem. > > Also, bike is very hard to start in cold weather (under 35 degrees

F.)

> > > > Any suggestions on the clutch problem??? > > > > misha

Thanks for all the advice. I've got 20-50 in it right now, which might be part of the problem, and also, being winter, only riding once every 3 weeks or so. My dealer did say that this was not uncommon and did suggest revving the engine to break apart the clutch plates. mk

[Brad Morris]

That's wierd, I never had this problem until just yesterday (A16 2300miles). I just had an oil change a week ago so it has to be the type of oil. The oil listed on the reciept is Castrol 10W40. This is my second oil change and the first one was with Castrol ACTVO 10W40 and I had no problems similar to what you mentioned after that one. Don't know if the ACTVO designation means anything or not. Brad J. Morris A16 Illinois

> kryzytski wrote: > > > I have a 2001 KLR650 w/ 900 miles. Since the day I > got it, when the > > engine is cold (only), when I put it into 1st > gear, the bike leaps > > forward and stalls. I've learned to put it into > 2nd, then 1st, then > > go. My dealer has no clue as to the problem. After > the bike is warmed > > up there is no problem. > > Also, bike is very hard to start in cold weather > (under 35 degrees F.) > > > > Any suggestions on the clutch problem??? > > > > misha

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[Jake Jakeman]

Before KLR; with Road Multi's, best results with dedicated M/C oil AS A MINIMUM. KLR; best results with a synthetic blend, Golden Spectro or Honda HP4. A2 bought new @54,000 miles and counting. Might use 1 Qt per change @5000 mile intervals. Go to my web page at: http://sagebrushmachine.com and read "Hints & Tips". Jake _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

[Bogdan Swider]

> ---------- > . I let the bike idle until the > needle reaches at least the bottom of the temperature gauge, >

However.......Many consider idling, especially when the engine is cold, to be bad, bad, very gad for the motor. The late Gordon Jennings led a verbal crusade on this topic in his tech columns. Something about incomplete combustion. He never tired of preaching that you should start the bike and ride off as soon as possible. Bogdan

[Devon Jarvis]

I'm talking about a few minutes, even in the coldest weather. It's modern liquid cooled motor, assuming you have the idle mixture properly set, it should sit and idle happily until it runs out of gas.Having your idle mixture screw turned out 3 turns would likely foul your plug if you let the bike sit and idle. Especially if the bike has been sitting for a couple of days, if you start it and ride away seconds later, the oil will probably reach your cam bearings when you're halfway down the block. Devon PS- I am not familiar with Gordon Jennings. Could you tell me where I can find some of his columns archived? Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > > ---------- > > . I let the bike idle until the > > needle reaches at least the bottom of the temperature gauge, > > > However.......Many consider idling, especially when the engine is cold, to > be bad, bad, very gad for the motor. The late Gordon Jennings led a verbal > crusade on this topic in his tech columns. Something about incomplete > combustion. He never tired of preaching that you should start the bike and > ride off as soon as possible. > > Bogdan > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Bogdan Swider]

> Devon > > PS- I am not familiar with Gordon Jennings. Could you tell me where I > can find some of his columns archived? > > >

The last outfit he wrote for was Motorcyclist. The only reason I subscribed to that rag. They may have his stuff on their site. Don't know I never visit it. Bogdan

[dooden]

Anybody that recommends starting a cold internal combustion engine and just riding it without allowing it to warm up is somebody I care not to read anything from. Sorry Just my $.03 worth, yes I know a "whole" $.03 on this one. Duden A15 Pilot, and will continue to allow his engines to warm prior to working them.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > I'm talking about a few minutes, even in the coldest weather. It's > modern liquid cooled motor, assuming you have the idle mixture properly > set, it should sit and idle happily until it runs out of gas.Having your > idle mixture screw turned out 3 turns would likely foul your plug if you > let the bike sit and idle. > > Especially if the bike has been sitting for a couple of days, if you > start it and ride away seconds later, the oil will probably reach your > cam bearings when you're halfway down the block. > > Devon > > PS- I am not familiar with Gordon Jennings. Could you tell me where I > can find some of his columns archived? > > > > Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > ---------- > > > . I let the bike idle until the > > > needle reaches at least the bottom of the temperature gauge, > > > > > However.......Many consider idling, especially when the engine is cold, to > > be bad, bad, very gad for the motor. The late Gordon Jennings led a verbal > > crusade on this topic in his tech columns. Something about incomplete > > combustion. He never tired of preaching that you should start the bike and > > ride off as soon as possible. > > > > Bogdan > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[marshall]

I'm with you on warm ups. I can understand the argument about EXCESSIVE idle times, but like a lot in life, all things including idle time, in moderation. I let the KLX warm till it runs without the enricher engaged. Works for me, Marshall in Slidell, La 95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served) 14,000 + miles and smiling