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[Steve Anderson]

Does anyone know what Progressive specifies for the preload distance (not spacer length) for the LR fork springs? My few neurons that are still intact are saying an inch to an inch and a half; but then again I learnt long ago, when I still had more that functioned ok, not to trust 'em... Steve A. in AZ

[The Mule]

I hear ya Steve. You know, I'd be very interested in the same. I had a Kawi shop install my Progressive fork springs last year. I believe they simply swapped the springs without "resetting" anything, and changed from the stock 10w to 15w, at my behest. Now, I noticed right away that the ride was harsher. The forks were definitely stiffer, yet in an unforgiving way. Seems to me these things need to be tuned. Or maybe just go back to 10w? Steve Miller A14 "The Mule"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Anderson" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:30 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] LR fork spring preload? > Does anyone know what Progressive specifies for the preload distance (not > spacer length) for the LR fork springs? My few neurons that are still > intact are saying an inch to an inch and a half; but then again I learnt > long ago, when I still had more that functioned ok, not to trust 'em... > > > Steve A. in AZ > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Fred Hink]

Most forks need a slight amount of spring preload and it usually requires that the spacer be even to just below the top of the fork leg by about 1/4". This will allow about 1/4" to 3/4" preload once you install the top nut. Preload is set to the riders preference. Adjusting spring preload will effect ride height and every bike and rider is different. So I usually start with the spring spacer to the top of the fork tube with the forks extended and try it there. If you need less preload you can always take off more of the spacer to have less preload. Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Anderson" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] LR fork spring preload? > Does anyone know what Progressive specifies for the preload distance (not > spacer length) for the LR fork springs? My few neurons that are still > intact are saying an inch to an inch and a half; but then again I learnt > long ago, when I still had more that functioned ok, not to trust 'em... > > > Steve A. in AZ > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Steve Anderson]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Hink" wrote:

> Most forks need a slight amount of spring preload and it usually requires > that the spacer be even to just below the top of the fork leg by about

1/4".

> This will allow about 1/4" to 3/4" preload once you install the top nut. > Preload is set to the riders preference. Adjusting spring preload will > effect ride height and every bike and rider is different. So I usually > start with the spring spacer to the top of the fork tube with the forks > extended and try it there. If you need less preload you can always take

off

> more of the spacer to have less preload. >

Hmmm. Again, presuming I m still memorying ok, if I put the spacer at the top of the fork that would give me 14mm of preload (the depth of the fork cap based on this presumption of memory) and _something_ in my head says that Progressive was recommending an inch to an inch and a half which is certainly more than 14mm (I may not remember well, but I think I can still do the math). BTW, it is hard to add to the spacers with a tubing cutter ;-]. When I put the LR s in, I m pretty sure I did it to whatever it was that Progressive recommended, but I think I want a tad more preload than whatever I put in there, and I thought they specified a range. I can just open them up and measure what I have in there I guess, but I m still trying to verify my memory against what the Progressive folks recommend. I guess my question is "what does Progressive specify for preload distance on LR fork springs?" Later, Steve A. in AZ

[Fred Hink]

The Progressive Suspension LR series fork spring installation guide can be found at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/files/Suspension/Lr-pfs.jpg It states to set the spring preload from 1/8" to 3/8". Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Anderson" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: LR fork spring preload? > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Hink" wrote: > > Most forks need a slight amount of spring preload and it usually requires > > that the spacer be even to just below the top of the fork leg by about > 1/4". > > This will allow about 1/4" to 3/4" preload once you install the top nut. > > Preload is set to the riders preference. Adjusting spring preload will > > effect ride height and every bike and rider is different. So I usually > > start with the spring spacer to the top of the fork tube with the forks > > extended and try it there. If you need less preload you can always take > off > > more of the spacer to have less preload. > > > > > Hmmm. Again, presuming I m still memorying ok, if I put the spacer at the > top of the fork that would give me 14mm of preload (the depth of the fork > cap based on this presumption of memory) and _something_ in my head says > that Progressive was recommending an inch to an inch and a half which is > certainly more than 14mm (I may not remember well, but I think I can still > do the math). BTW, it is hard to add to the spacers with a tubing cutter > ;-]. > > When I put the LR s in, I m pretty sure I did it to whatever it was that > Progressive recommended, but I think I want a tad more preload than whatever > I put in there, and I thought they specified a range. I can just open them > up and measure what I have in there I guess, but I m still trying to verify > my memory against what the Progressive folks recommend. > > > I guess my question is "what does Progressive specify for preload distance > on LR fork springs?" > > > Later, > > Steve A. in AZ > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Steve Anderson]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Hink" wrote:

> The Progressive Suspension LR series fork spring installation guide can be > found at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/files/Suspension/Lr-pfs.jpg > It states to set the spring preload from 1/8" to 3/8". > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > >

That s what I was looking for! Thanks mucho, Steve A. in AZ

[The Mule]

Nice Fred. Whydya think my springs are stiff? Maybe the spacing's wrong, or is it the 15wt oil?. Does the spacing affect the springs' action? Seems that the stock preload is already minimum (no spacer) preload, so it should be softest, no? Steve Miller A14 "The Mule"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hink" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>; "Steve Anderson" Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: LR fork spring preload? > The Progressive Suspension LR series fork spring installation guide can be > found at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/files/Suspension/Lr-pfs.jpg > It states to set the spring preload from 1/8" to 3/8". > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Anderson" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:25 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: LR fork spring preload? > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Hink" wrote: > > > Most forks need a slight amount of spring preload and it usually > requires > > > that the spacer be even to just below the top of the fork leg by about > > 1/4". > > > This will allow about 1/4" to 3/4" preload once you install the top nut. > > > Preload is set to the riders preference. Adjusting spring preload will > > > effect ride height and every bike and rider is different. So I usually > > > start with the spring spacer to the top of the fork tube with the forks > > > extended and try it there. If you need less preload you can always take > > off > > > more of the spacer to have less preload. > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. Again, presuming I m still memorying ok, if I put the spacer at the > > top of the fork that would give me 14mm of preload (the depth of the fork > > cap based on this presumption of memory) and _something_ in my head says > > that Progressive was recommending an inch to an inch and a half which is > > certainly more than 14mm (I may not remember well, but I think I can still > > do the math). BTW, it is hard to add to the spacers with a tubing cutter > > ;-]. > > > > When I put the LR s in, I m pretty sure I did it to whatever it was that > > Progressive recommended, but I think I want a tad more preload than > whatever > > I put in there, and I thought they specified a range. I can just open > them > > up and measure what I have in there I guess, but I m still trying to > verify > > my memory against what the Progressive folks recommend. > > > > > > I guess my question is "what does Progressive specify for preload distance > > on LR fork springs?" > > > > > > Later, > > > > Steve A. in AZ > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Louklr@aol.com]

Anybody have a stock saddle (my bike is 97) they want to sell? Condition isn't that important as long as it's still usable. Please reply to loumatts@..., less chance of losing your EMail in the clutter that way. Louie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]