smashed chain guide?

[Thomas J Komjathy]

I was talking with Eldon Carl the other day and he recommends; Loosen bolt 1/2 turn, tap bolt a couple of times, then torque bolt to ONLY 8 Ft. Pnds or 96 Inch Pnds of torque. Any more than this will distort the slide Clyde. He also mentioned that the only true way to verify the darn things working right is an actual visual inspection. Tom K

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Palmer" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Diagnose this UPDATE > Stu wrote: > [counterbalancer adjuster] > > Maybe welding the slider solt to the shaft sleeve weakens the sleeve > > sometimes? Who knows, either way , a billet piece would solve this > > problem, methinks.... Hellooo , Big Cee ??? > > Or maybe a washer between the bolt and the slot would make a difference, > but that would mean that you can't take the bolt out without taking > the cover off to keep the washer from going walkabout. > Hopefully the washer reduces the torque from the bolt twisting the slot > when the bolt is tightened. > > Mister_T > Melbourne Australia > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[W.V. Doran]

Hola... If you are using Eldon Carl's balancer adjustment method he also recommend's leaning the bike as far over to the right as possible (against a wall?) to reduce the chance of the "thingamajig" sliding on the shaft. Hope this help's. WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ --- Thomas J Komjathy wrote:

> Hello to all > > My balance adjuster has failed (98 KLR SisFiddy) > but it was at idle so I > lucked out. Seems Kawie's upgrade still isn't up to > par. While I'm in there > does anyone have suggestions or recommendations. KLR > balancer adjusters are > baaad, don't trust your adjusters. Ok? > > VR > Tom Komjathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stu" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:14 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Diagnose this UPDATE > > > > Mine too. Picked up parts Friday afternoon, > replaced Saturday > > morning, runs quiet and smooth now, like a 2 > wheeled Rolls Royce. > > > > For the record, my old geezer says "Rolls Royces > never break down. > > They "fail to proceed."". > > > > Maybe welding the slider solt to the shaft sleeve > weakens the sleeve > > sometimes? Who knows, either way , a billet piece > would solve this > > problem, methinks.... Hellooo , Big Cee ??? > > > > CA Stu > > A13 > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Steve Secrest" > wrote: > > > Mine broke at the shaft hole also ... looks like > adjuster slides > > > on shaft when bolt is loosened, binds there, > tighten bolt and > > > wait for breakage whilst riding. Parts will be > here any day > > > and I'm gonna test this theory ... will report > back > > > > > > Steve in Cincy > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where exactly did yours break? Mine broke on > the shaft hole not > > the > > > > bolt slider slot. No evidence of stripping on > mine. Definitely > > gonna > > > > pull the mag cover from now on. > > > > > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Devon Jarvis]

I am planning inspecting my adjustor on this Wednesday night. I was planning to lean the bike over far enough that I don't have to drain the oil, remove the bash plate and magneto cover, and then do the adjustment while eyeballing everything. Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I likely to get the original off in one piece? Thanks, Devon "W.V. Doran" wrote:

> > Hola... If you are using Eldon Carl's balancer > adjustment method he also recommend's leaning the bike > as far over to the right as possible (against a wall?) > to reduce the chance of the "thingamajig" sliding on > the shaft. Hope this help's. > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ > --- Thomas J Komjathy wrote: > > Hello to all > > > > My balance adjuster has failed (98 KLR SisFiddy) > > but it was at idle so I > > lucked out. Seems Kawie's upgrade still isn't up to > > par. While I'm in there > > does anyone have suggestions or recommendations. KLR > > balancer adjusters are > > baaad, don't trust your adjusters. Ok? > > > > VR > > Tom Komjathy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stu" > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:14 AM > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Diagnose this UPDATE > > > > > > > Mine too. Picked up parts Friday afternoon, > > replaced Saturday > > > morning, runs quiet and smooth now, like a 2 > > wheeled Rolls Royce. > > > > > > For the record, my old geezer says "Rolls Royces > > never break down. > > > They "fail to proceed."". > > > > > > Maybe welding the slider solt to the shaft sleeve > > weakens the sleeve > > > sometimes? Who knows, either way , a billet piece > > would solve this > > > problem, methinks.... Hellooo , Big Cee ??? > > > > > > CA Stu > > > A13 > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Steve Secrest" > > wrote: > > > > Mine broke at the shaft hole also ... looks like > > adjuster slides > > > > on shaft when bolt is loosened, binds there, > > tighten bolt and > > > > wait for breakage whilst riding. Parts will be > > here any day > > > > and I'm gonna test this theory ... will report > > back > > > > > > > > Steve in Cincy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where exactly did yours break? Mine broke on > > the shaft hole not > > > the > > > > > bolt slider slot. No evidence of stripping on > > mine. Definitely > > > gonna > > > > > pull the mag cover from now on. > > > > > > > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Unsubscribe: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Richard Ohnstad]

Devon, Most likely you will be able to reuse the gasket for the outer cover. If you don't take off the magneto and the inner cover, I'm not so sure you will be able to see a heck of a lot. Especially the way that the Lever, Idle Shaft sits on the Shaft. Rich in Tucson 94 KLR650 86 VFR750

> I am planning inspecting my adjustor on this Wednesday night. I was > planning to lean the bike over far enough that I don't have to drain the > oil, remove the bash plate and magneto cover, and then do the adjustment > while eyeballing everything. > > Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I likely to > get the original off in one piece?

[W.V. Doran]

I'm not sure if the gasket will hold up or not, but it should be OK if you are careful when you remove the cover. It's worth a try. Back the bolt off 1/2 turn, tap the shaft with a soft hammer a couple of times, lightly, this should be enough for the chain to self adjust. With the cover off this will all be visable. Torque the bolt at 8 ft lbs NO MORE. I adjust mine every 3k. So far so good. Good luck WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ --- Devon Jarvis wrote:

> I am planning inspecting my adjustor on this > Wednesday night. I was > planning to lean the bike over far enough that I > don't have to drain the > oil, remove the bash plate and magneto cover, and > then do the adjustment > while eyeballing everything. > > Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover > gasket, or am I likely to > get the original off in one piece? > > Thanks, > Devon > > "W.V. Doran" wrote: > > > > Hola... If you are using Eldon Carl's balancer > > adjustment method he also recommend's leaning the > bike > > as far over to the right as possible (against a > wall?) > > to reduce the chance of the "thingamajig" sliding > on > > the shaft. Hope this help's. > > WVDoran > > Scottsdale, AZ > > --- Thomas J Komjathy > wrote: > > > Hello to all > > > > > > My balance adjuster has failed (98 KLR > SisFiddy) > > > but it was at idle so I > > > lucked out. Seems Kawie's upgrade still isn't up > to > > > par. While I'm in there > > > does anyone have suggestions or recommendations. > KLR > > > balancer adjusters are > > > baaad, don't trust your adjusters. Ok? > > > > > > VR > > > Tom Komjathy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stu" > > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:14 AM > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Diagnose this UPDATE > > > > > > > > > > Mine too. Picked up parts Friday afternoon, > > > replaced Saturday > > > > morning, runs quiet and smooth now, like a 2 > > > wheeled Rolls Royce. > > > > > > > > For the record, my old geezer says "Rolls > Royces > > > never break down. > > > > They "fail to proceed."". > > > > > > > > Maybe welding the slider solt to the shaft > sleeve > > > weakens the sleeve > > > > sometimes? Who knows, either way , a billet > piece > > > would solve this > > > > problem, methinks.... Hellooo , Big Cee ??? > > > > > > > > CA Stu > > > > A13 > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Steve Secrest" > > > wrote: > > > > > Mine broke at the shaft hole also ... looks > like > > > adjuster slides > > > > > on shaft when bolt is loosened, binds there, > > > tighten bolt and > > > > > wait for breakage whilst riding. Parts will > be > > > here any day > > > > > and I'm gonna test this theory ... will > report > > > back > > > > > > > > > > Steve in Cincy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where exactly did yours break? Mine broke > on > > > the shaft hole not > > > > the > > > > > > bolt slider slot. No evidence of stripping > on > > > mine. Definitely > > > > gonna > > > > > > pull the mag cover from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > dat brooklyn bum > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subscribe: > DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Unsubscribe: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Bogdan Swider]

> I am planning inspecting my adjustor on this Wednesday night. I was > planning to lean the bike over far enough that I don't have to drain the > oil, remove the bash plate and magneto cover, and then do the adjustment > while eyeballing everything. > > Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I likely to > get the original off in one piece? > > Thanks, > Devon >

With reasonable care you should be able to reuse the gasket. The problem area is where the wiring harness sits in a rubber like insert near the countershaft sprocket. If you pull on that area you could tear the gasket. When you remove the cover think of that area as a pivot. Lift the cover up from the left and turn it keeping the right side near where it was. Have a bungee handy to hang the cover from something when it is off. There are a couple of pins that seat the cover and are not permanently attached. Be aware where they are and where they end up. Bogdan

[Bogdan Swider]

> Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I likely to > get the original off in one piece? > > Thanks, > Devon >

Oh yeah, make sure you remove the sprocket cover. Bogdan

[RM]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I likely to >get the original off in one piece?

I've had good luck with re-using the original gasket. Each time I take it off, I rub a thin coat of Permatex Hylomar sealant on both sides of the gasket. This is a non-hardening sealant that's easy to work with and available at auto parts stores. Pretty blue color, too - just like the pretty blue water that I used to get into trouble for playing with as a child. RM

[Frank Sikorski]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote:

> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > >Any suggestions? Do I need a new magneto cover gasket, or am I

likely to

> >get the original off in one piece? > > I've had good luck with re-using the original gasket. Each time I

take it

> off, I rub a thin coat of Permatex Hylomar sealant on both sides of

the

> gasket. This is a non-hardening sealant that's easy to work with

and

> available at auto parts stores. Pretty blue color, too - just like

the

> pretty blue water that I used to get into trouble for playing with

as a

> child. > > RM

Couldn't agree more........Hylomar is an excellent product. I used it for many years in the Automotive industry....so good in fact that Rolls Royce holds the patent to the stuff, and anything that'll stop a Brit machine from leaking.........nuf sed Frank

[cactus_reese@yahoo.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Walter Lesnowich" wrote:

> > Has anyone else ever broken the white chain guide that sits in

front of

> > > > Thanks, > > Devon > > > > I've never broken mine but since you did I would suggest you > contact Dan Oaks www.dirtly.com as I think he has a urethane > replacement part that should be bullet proof. > > Walt > A14 "War Horse"

Yes, I broke mine. Got the replacement from Dan Oaks (www.dirtly.com). Many colors to choose from, but I chose black. -Bryan A12