Two quick points from one with a mouth as foul as any (my wife warns
the dog away when I'm changing tires):
1) Let's let the young men and women with whom we may share this list
learn their foul language from their parents, their older siblings or
in the street, rather than from us.
2) You appear to take great care and pride in what you write, so I
can't help but think that if you're unable to find words or other
slang (e.g. freakin', flippin') to substitute for profanity, then
you're not trying hard enough.
I'm with Gino on this one.
Arden Kysely
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Russell D. Stephan, Sr. Tech Analyst"
wrote:
> I am quite familiar with the way email lists work. Over the last
three
> years I have composed and posted over five hundred pages of
originally
> created content for moto list posting on a dozen or more lists.
Some of
> that work has ended up on the KRL group.
>
> You'll have to review my language posts again. I never claimed
this was my
> list. I never proposed the list bend to my *rules*. I post and
write to
> *my* own personal standards. If those standards in their entirety
aren't
> acceptable to those in charge, so be it.
>
> I have never claimed this forum was protected by anything other
than the
> intelligent, insightful, and educated decisions of it's owners.
However,
> Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Franklin should be a good judgmental
> framework for a healthy and thriving discussion doctrine. You may
also want
> to consult the concept of basic human liberty.
>
> I fully understand the ramifications of my actions and my posts. I
am quite
> willing to suffer those consequences if necessary. I do stick to my
> convictions even in the face of pressure; something which is
exceedingly
> rare these days. Censorship is something best left to the
individual
> consumer of information, not the controller of its distribution.
>
> I'd never be able to complete some of my more arduous motorcycle
adventures
> if I turned tail every time things got difficult. Funny thing is,
if you
> ride and work on bikes you swear like a sailor now and then. I
have yet to
> meet a group of bikers that didn't use "colorful" language
occasionally.
> Maybe you'd be kind enough to introduce me to the exception.
>
> If two words out of dozens of pages of original list content are
your only
> judging criteria, then you are correct in your assertion of
examining
> "getting along".
>
> I must also point out that my original post was a response to an
attack by a
> fellow lister. Seems to me, this whole language issue would be
mute if the
> original attack was chastised. In my book, personal attacks with
or without
> foul language are orders of magnitude worse offenses than the
sprinkling of
> flavorful expletives.
>
> And no, I have not been privately or publicly asked to take it off
list. I
> responded to a public post, just as I'm responding to a public post
here.
>
> I have had my say on this topic and consider the issue closed.
Those in
> charge can prosecute the issue further if they so desire. My
prose, however
> will continue to remain under my own control of judgement and
creativity.
>
>
> At 02:15 PM 11/29/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >This list has just gone through this subject recently. You have
to realize
> >that this isn't *your* mailing list and this list isn't protected
with the
> >Constitution of US government. This is Gino's list and he sets
the rules.
> >If you can't abide by what he says then you have to find another
place to
> >fit your needs.
> >
> >What you feel is "colorful" might be offensive to others. This
list is for
> >all folks, young and old, and we all have to live together. If
you can't
> >play by the rules here then start your own list and you make your
own rules.
> >
> >ps Gino asked you to take this off list, didn't he?
> >
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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