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[tori645@yahoo.com]

howdy.. did a lil 150 mile ride for lunch today, around Lake O.. beautiful day.. only slight problem, ended up with sore ears and vibrated sore head.. i have one of clearviews extended windshields.. think it's the 7 or 9".. wear a fullface Aria Signet helmet.. seems at 60 or above, the wind noise and vibration start.. if i duck as low as the windshield, everything is wonderful.. cept i'd need to be about 10" shorter.. would ear plugs help with the wind noise? any ideas about the head vibration? thanks

[KLR650@houston.rr.com]

I wear earplugs on trips longer than my daily commute and I removed the clear windscreen. Smooth, quiet air... Gerret A15

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., tori645@y... wrote: > howdy.. > > did a lil 150 mile ride for lunch today, around Lake O.. beautiful > day.. only slight problem, ended up with sore ears and vibrated sore > head.. i have one of clearviews extended windshields.. think it's the > 7 or 9".. wear a fullface Aria Signet helmet.. seems at 60 or above, > the wind noise and vibration start.. if i duck as low as the > windshield, everything is wonderful.. cept i'd need to be about 10" > shorter.. would ear plugs help with the wind noise? any ideas about > the head vibration? > > thanks

[Steve Viertell]

I've had my '01 for a couple of months and I like it (at least in this 95 degree weather we've been having) with the windshield off...With the stock windshield, it puts the buffeting right at my face...If I did a lot of long distance highway stuff on it, I think I would get a really tall windshield, just below eye level, that I could take on and off easily. Try it with no windshield... Steve Viertell, Chico, CA '01 Concours, "Smurfie" '01 EX250, "Ninjita" '01 KLR650 "Thumper" COG 4274 IBA 6049 WA6ZGK www.viertell.com/bikes/

>>> 10/01/01 07:26PM >>>

howdy.. did a lil 150 mile ride for lunch today, around Lake O.. beautiful day.. only slight problem, ended up with sore ears and vibrated sore head.. i have one of clearviews extended windshields.. think it's the 7 or 9".. wear a fullface Aria Signet helmet.. seems at 60 or above, the wind noise and vibration start.. if i duck as low as the windshield, everything is wonderful.. cept i'd need to be about 10" shorter.. would ear plugs help with the wind noise? any ideas about the head vibration? thanks Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> windshield, everything is wonderful.. cept i'd need to be about 10" > shorter.. would ear plugs help with the wind noise? any ideas about > the head vibration?

Ear plugs would cut down the noise to almost nothing, but there is a down side to using them. On a trip a couple weekends ago I was following a friend who was wearing earplugs, (little orange foam ones; Max from Howard Leight), and wanted to stop to take a look at a monument we had passed in a park. I was pressing my horn button for all I was worth, and got no response from him. Finally, the flashing headlight caught his attention, and we went back. I thought about it, and when we got back to the bikes to ride again I asked if he had an extra pair of the plugs, which he did. The KLR horn may not be the loudest thing in the world, but it's successfully alerted a couple idiots in cars to my presence, so it does work. With the earplugs in my ears I found I couldn't hear my OWN horn, no wonder he didn't respond! So, although I know a lot of people wear them, I'd rather put up with the noise than not be able to hear. For the ClearView, if you haven't taken off the protective plastic, they'll let you send it back to exchange for another one if the size you ordered doesn't work for you. I guess you'd want a shorter one to put the wind spill-over lower, or a taller one to put the wind over your head; flip a coin, I guess. Mark St.Hilaire, Sr msaint@... A15 My HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My KLR650 Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

[MERK]

>I guess you'd want a shorter one to put the wind > spill-over lower, or a taller one to put the wind over your head; flip

a

> coin, I guess.

But....How tall a shield is necessary? I`m in the same boat with this question. Stock shield flows rough air into the bottom of my helm and rattles my helmet shield at freeway speeds. If I remove the the shield, air is smoother and hits me about upper chest/shoulder height...great for summer, but would be nice to have more protection in the late fall/early spring (Canada,eh!). A list brother has offered the Kawasaki higher shield, but a couple other guys have said not to waste the dough, cuz` it won`t be high enough to get the wind over my head. I`m 6,1. Any advice appreciated......:0) MERK!.........Deeds Speak!! merk26@...

[k650dsn@aol.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Walter Lesnowich" wrote:

> > although I know a lot of people wear them, I'd rather put up with

the

> noise > > than not be able to hear. > > > > Mark St.Hilaire, Sr > > > > But if you continue to put up with the noise > eventually you wont be able to hear much at all. > > Walt > A14 "War Horse"

You can still hear with ear plugs. I can hear my motor, emergency vehicles and things like that. Ear plugs just deaden the sound; take the edge off. If you insist on a little more sound, go to any drug store like Walgreen's and get RockHearos. They are earplugs with a small plastic tube in them. Designed to be worn in loud concerts. They come in wild colors too. My daughter uses them. Gino

[Devon Jarvis]

There are a lot of different earplugs out there, try \ to find earplugs that are comfortable but don't work as well, so to speak. I have tried maybe 10 different types and have settles on the beige, soft Hear-Os as my favorite. Most comfortable, good noise reduction but they still pass enough sound to be safe. I put them in before I get going, and by the time I've been riding 10 minutes my ears have sort of adjusted, and I can hear suprisingly well. The only difference is that my ears don't ring when I get home. The Hear-Os are the same shape as the Howard Leight plugs (the yellow/purple speckled ones) but don't cut the sound as completely. The Leight plugs were for sleeping, I thought. You can also take a set of foam plugs that fit you well, and put a thin, red-hot nail into the center so they don't block the noise completely. I take the plugs out for off-roading, I;m never going fast enough for wind noise and I need to completely hear the motor, the sound of rocks under the tires etc. Devon "Mark St.Hilaire, Sr" wrote:

> > > windshield, everything is wonderful.. cept i'd need to be about 10" > > shorter.. would ear plugs help with the wind noise? any ideas about > > the head vibration? > > Ear plugs would cut down the noise to almost nothing, but there is a down > side to using them. On a trip a couple weekends ago I was following a friend > who was wearing earplugs, (little orange foam ones; Max from Howard Leight), > and wanted to stop to take a look at a monument we had passed in a park. I > was pressing my horn button for all I was worth, and got no response from > him. Finally, the flashing headlight caught his attention, and we went back. > I thought about it, and when we got back to the bikes to ride again I asked > if he had an extra pair of the plugs, which he did. The KLR horn may not be > the loudest thing in the world, but it's successfully alerted a couple > idiots in cars to my presence, so it does work. With the earplugs in my ears > I found I couldn't hear my OWN horn, no wonder he didn't respond! So, > although I know a lot of people wear them, I'd rather put up with the noise > than not be able to hear. > > For the ClearView, if you haven't taken off the protective plastic, they'll > let you send it back to exchange for another one if the size you ordered > doesn't work for you. I guess you'd want a shorter one to put the wind > spill-over lower, or a taller one to put the wind over your head; flip a > coin, I guess. > > > Mark St.Hilaire, Sr > msaint@... > A15 > My HomePage: > http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html > My KLR650 Pages: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/ > Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[marcclarke@unforgettable.com]

I use the tallest Rifle windscreen. It not only cleans up all the helmet buffetting at legal freeway speeds (and above) it also fixes the handling instability at about 70mph. I ride comfortably with mine in 20F temperatures. I stand 6'2" tall, with most of my height in my torso (31" inseam"). -- Marc, Kawasaki KLR650 A12, Loveland, Colorado, USA ----Original Message-----

>From: "MERK" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] sore ears and rattled head... >Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 08:48 > >>I guess you'd want a shorter one to put the wind >> spill-over lower, or a taller one to put the wind over your head; flip >a >> coin, I guess. > >But....How tall a shield is necessary? I`m in the same boat with this >question. > >Stock shield flows rough air into the bottom of my helm and rattles my >helmet shield at freeway speeds. > If I remove the the shield, air is smoother and hits me about upper >chest/shoulder height...great for summer, but would be nice to have more >protection in the late fall/early spring (Canada,eh!). > >A list brother has offered the Kawasaki higher shield, but a couple >other guys have said not to waste the dough, cuz` it won`t be high >enough to get the wind over my head. I`m 6,1. Any advice >appreciated......:0) > >MERK!.........Deeds Speak!! >merk26@...

[Richard Ohnstad]

> although I know a lot of people wear them, I'd rather put up with the

noise

> than not be able to hear.

Mark, I realize there is a trade-off here, but over the long, you may not be able to hear if you don't wear earplugs. You can always turn around for a monument, but you can't get your hearing back once it's gone. Richard in Tucson 94 KLR650 86 VFR750

[Rev.Chuck]

I pay GMAC to insure my bikes, they are a big company, which gives me faith they will pay a claim, and they are stupid cheap. I just added my third bike, a 78 CB400 "Hondamatic", the wife learning bike. GMAC refused to insure the bike at first "...because it was carring the CB designation" making it a super-sport-racer-go-fast. After a full minute of laughing at their knowledge and speaking to a manager who had some mototcycle savy, they agreed to insure it: $14.00 annually. I like this company. --- AMA585601@...

> wrote: >In a message dated 10/1/01 4:09:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes: > > to insure them? Differential pricing based on the bike alone, has been > going on for years. > > Richard in Tucson > 94 KLR650 > 86 VFR750 > >> > >They do both. They refuse to insure and they make it prohibitively expensive >for other models. Although, I think Progressive will stick with us, because >they have some kind of unspoken thing with the AMA. When I bought my first >muscle bike, a Suzuki GS1150E, it was damn hard to find an insurance company >that would insure me. The bike looked like an unfaired standard, but all the >magazines had boasted about its 120 horsepower and quick handling. The Ninja >ended up being a better handling bike, but they were hard to insure as well. >So the answer is yes and yes. Sorry it is not better news. > >Jim >AMA585601 > >Jim >AMA585601 > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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