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--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind grabs > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > Claes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! That's > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines and > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs flogging > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be measured > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with 3% > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the shield, > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > weave. > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > Brett > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > Unbelivable. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > To: jayed36@y... > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > in the rear. > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > the links..... > > > > Peace > > Slide > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > 90, > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This > have > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as > new > > > as they are? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > designed > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > > brakes > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my > grip > > > on the > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > > > fast the > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > A15 > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind grabs > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > Claes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! That's > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines and > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs flogging > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be measured > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with 3% > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the shield, > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > weave. > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > Brett > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > Unbelivable. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > To: jayed36@y... > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > in the rear. > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > the links..... > > > > Peace > > Slide > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > 90, > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This > have > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as > new > > > as they are? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > designed > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > > brakes > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my > grip > > > on the > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > > > fast the > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > A15 > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! 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> > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! That's > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines and > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs flogging > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be measured > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with 3% > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the shield, > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > weave. > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > Brett > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > Unbelivable. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > To: jayed36@y... > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > in the rear. > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > the links..... > > > > Peace > > Slide > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > 90, > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This > have > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as > new > > > as they are? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > designed > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > > brakes > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my > grip > > > on the > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > > > fast the > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > A15 > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > He he, you are right but the Klr forks are not that bad? Are they? What > I mean is, if the bike weaves at "high" speed when properly adjusted and > serviced, don't get angry now, but that to me is a not too brilliant > design then. > Is perhaps this that attract all the klristas? You have the bike, works > ok, but you can improve it in many ways. Hmm, that sounds like a Harley > to me. *takes cover from all the angry klristas that will try to beat me > up*> > Claes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:03 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Hey Claes! You have the USD forks right? Wanna trade front ends? I > can't seem to get anybody with a KLX to take me up on this offer. Oh > well, I'll go back to weaving(Weave? I can't even knit!) > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind > grabs > > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > > > Claes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! > That's > > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first > > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies > > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently > > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines > and > > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs > flogging > > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be > measured > > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with > 3% > > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the > shield, > > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed > > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > > weave. > > > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > > > Brett teenager. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > > Unbelivable. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > > To: jayed36@y... > > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > > in the rear. > > > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > > the links..... > > > > > > Peace > > > Slide > > > > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > > 90, > > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. > This > > have > > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being > as > > new > > > > as they are? > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > > designed > > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > > > brakes > > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my > > grip > > > > on the > > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is > how > > > > fast the > > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > A15 > > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > He he, you are right but the Klr forks are not that bad? Are they? What > I mean is, if the bike weaves at "high" speed when properly adjusted and > serviced, don't get angry now, but that to me is a not too brilliant > design then. > Is perhaps this that attract all the klristas? You have the bike, works > ok, but you can improve it in many ways. Hmm, that sounds like a Harley > to me. *takes cover from all the angry klristas that will try to beat me > up*> > Claes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:03 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Hey Claes! You have the USD forks right? Wanna trade front ends? I > can't seem to get anybody with a KLX to take me up on this offer. Oh > well, I'll go back to weaving(Weave? I can't even knit!) > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind > grabs > > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > > > Claes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! > That's > > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first > > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies > > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently > > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines > and > > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs > flogging > > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be > measured > > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with > 3% > > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the > shield, > > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed > > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > > weave. > > > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > > > Brett teenager. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > > Unbelivable. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > > To: jayed36@y... > > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > > in the rear. > > > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > > the links..... > > > > > > Peace > > > Slide > > > > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > > 90, > > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. > This > > have > > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being > as > > new > > > > as they are? > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > > designed > > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > > > brakes > > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my > > grip > > > > on the > > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is > how > > > > fast the > > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > A15 > > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: http://www.dualsportnews.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > *laughing my head off here* Nice one. But how the hell does a machete > from wal mart become PC? > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:58 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Bah! *throws hammer* Why would I get angry? *throws coffee cup* I > didn't design it, I just bought it. *throws politically correct > machete from Wal-Mart* I just like big thick forks for stoppies and > runnin over guys who are busy bleeding thier brakes on the trail > because they have puddles of water in thier calipers! > > Waaaaiiiiiit A minute! Did you just call me an unwashed, oil leakin, > vibratin, black leather wearin in the summer, fat chick pick uppin, > parts fallin off Harley guy? Why thems fightin words! *can't find > anything else to throw* > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > He he, you are right but the Klr forks are not that bad? Are they? > What > > I mean is, if the bike weaves at "high" speed when properly > adjusted and > > serviced, don't get angry now, but that to me is a not too brilliant > > design then. > > Is perhaps this that attract all the klristas? You have the bike, > works > > ok, but you can improve it in many ways. Hmm, that sounds like a > Harley > > to me. *takes cover from all the angry klristas that will try to > beat me > > up*> > > > Claes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:03 > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > Hey Claes! You have the USD forks right? Wanna trade front ends? I > > can't seem to get anybody with a KLX to take me up on this offer. > Oh > > well, I'll go back to weaving(Weave? I can't even knit!) > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind > > grabs > > > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > > > > > Claes. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! > > That's > > > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > > > > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the > first > > > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT > varies > > > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will > vehemently > > > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines > > and > > > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs > > flogging > > > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be > > measured > > > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > > > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up > with > > 3% > > > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > > > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > > > > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the > > shield, > > > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph > (closed > > > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > > > weave. > > > > > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > > > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > > > > > Brett > teenager. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > > > Unbelivable. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > > > To: jayed36@y... > > > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > > > in the rear. > > > > > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > > > the links..... > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > Slide > > > > > > > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around > 80- > > > 90, > > > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. > > This > > > have > > > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires > being > > as > > > new > > > > > as they are? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > > > designed > > > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying > the > > > > > brakes > > > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive > springs. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen > my > > > grip > > > > > on the > > > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is > > how > > > > > fast the > > > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > A15 > > > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
I think slipping a good strong laxative into their drinking water then dropping a few cherry bombs in their tiolets would be more appropriate. -- bierdo> I remember someone was upset about going and shooting up a dealership > from bad service so they suggested fixed blade weaponry. What a > likeable bunch of people! >
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > *laughing my head off here* Nice one. But how the hell does a machete > from wal mart become PC? > > -----Original Message----- > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:58 > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > Bah! *throws hammer* Why would I get angry? *throws coffee cup* I > didn't design it, I just bought it. *throws politically correct > machete from Wal-Mart* I just like big thick forks for stoppies and > runnin over guys who are busy bleeding thier brakes on the trail > because they have puddles of water in thier calipers! > > Waaaaiiiiiit A minute! Did you just call me an unwashed, oil leakin, > vibratin, black leather wearin in the summer, fat chick pick uppin, > parts fallin off Harley guy? Why thems fightin words! *can't find > anything else to throw* > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > He he, you are right but the Klr forks are not that bad? Are they? > What > > I mean is, if the bike weaves at "high" speed when properly > adjusted and > > serviced, don't get angry now, but that to me is a not too brilliant > > design then. > > Is perhaps this that attract all the klristas? You have the bike, > works > > ok, but you can improve it in many ways. Hmm, that sounds like a > Harley > > to me. *takes cover from all the angry klristas that will try to > beat me > > up*> > > > Claes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > Sent: 28 June 2001 15:03 > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > Hey Claes! You have the USD forks right? Wanna trade front ends? I > > can't seem to get anybody with a KLX to take me up on this offer. > Oh > > well, I'll go back to weaving(Weave? I can't even knit!) > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > I drive a klx650 and it does not weave at speed. Of course wind > > grabs > > > the front fender but the bike itself is stable as a rock. > > > > > > Claes. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: tismybutt@y... [mailto:tismybutt@y...] > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 12:40 > > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! > > That's > > > what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. > > > > > > I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the > first > > > 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT > varies > > > the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will > vehemently > > > disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines > > and > > > have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs > > flogging > > > right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be > > measured > > > in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load > > > stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up > with > > 3% > > > at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 > > > miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. > > > > > > I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the > > shield, > > > the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph > (closed > > > course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the > > > weave. > > > > > > Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! > > > If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! > > > > > > Brett > teenager. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > > > > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? > > > Unbelivable. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > > > > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > > > > To: jayed36@y... > > > > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > > > > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > > > > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > > > > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > > > > in the rear. > > > > > > > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > > > > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > > > > of the front end is at its height........ > > > > > > > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > > > > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > > > > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > > > > to be the best overall klr handling. > > > > > > > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > > > > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > > > > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > > > > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > > > > > > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > > > > reported this phenomenally improved klr > > > > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > > > > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > > > > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > > > > have been less(if any) reports of this. > > > > People either totally love, or totally hate > > > > the links..... > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > Slide > > > > > > > > > > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > > > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around > 80- > > > 90, > > > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. > > This > > > have > > > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires > being > > as > > > new > > > > > as they are? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is > > > designed > > > > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying > the > > > > > brakes > > > > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive > springs. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen > my > > > grip > > > > > on the > > > > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is > > how > > > > > fast the > > > > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > A15 > > > > > > 78 SR500 > > > > > > 81 SR500 > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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