--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Ted Palmer wrote: > Greg Paul wrote: > [front master cylinder] > > The cover > > is held on by two small phillips head screws. Simply remove the two > > screws, pump it dry, install the speed bleeder, fill with fluid, pump > > it till the line is full, close the speed bleeder, replace the > > cap..... done? > > No need to pump it dry first, that would only make the process take > longer. > If you must empty the master cylinder first, suck all the old fluid > out of the master cylinder with a syringe. > Whatever old fluid is in the line will be flushed. > > Mister_T
on the road-cooling problems
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lahearn@houston.rr.com
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Better yet invest $26 in a mitivac at the auto parts store and suck
it out from the bottom. Greg is right, don't let any air get in the
lines, just suck the old stuff out and keep the mast cyl topped up.
A few more hints, turn the bars full lock and hold them with a
tiedown so they don't flop around, then loosen the brake where it
clamps on the bars and level it up. This will make bleeding and
filling much easier. Return to the normal position when done.
Leo in Houston.
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Greg Paul
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Final Heads Up!
I did manage to strip that damn phillips screw! Then tried to use the
impact wrench on it and "no go". I think the reason being that the
whole assembly has too much flex so you can't get a good solid hit.
Anyway, I finally got out the screw extractor set. Drilled it and
extracted it! Piece of #@$)*!!! You won't believe where I found the
replacement screws..... Loew's hardware! Man, they have these bins
that have all kinds of metric screws and cheap! Take a look there if
you have one in your area (I don't own their stock) 
Replaced them
with cap screws so this will "never" happen again cuz now I can get
the dynamite closer to the head of the screw!
Another DUH I learned from several folks on here but just too
reiterate, If you are installing "Speed Bleeders", DO NOT EMPTY THE
LINE FIRST. When you install the Speed Bleeders it will take you 6
months to compress the air in the line enough to overcome the spring
tension! Horrible experience! I was going to call Mr. & Mrs. Speed
Bleeder and cusssssss! Anyway, I put the old fittings back on, bled
the brakes to get the lines filled again. Then all you do is remove
the original fittings and put in the Speed Bleeders! LEAVE THE CAPS
ON THE MASTER CYLINDERS!!! IF YOU DON'T, ALL OF THE FLUID WILL DRAIN
OUT OF THE LINES WHEN YOU REMOVE THE OLD FITTINGS AND YOU WILL GET TO
PRACTICE THE PROCEDURE AGAIN! 
Thanks again for all the Hep guys!
Greg in Dallas & calm again!
Replaced them
with cap screws so this will "never" happen again cuz now I can get
the dynamite closer to the head of the screw!
Another DUH I learned from several folks on here but just too
reiterate, If you are installing "Speed Bleeders", DO NOT EMPTY THE
LINE FIRST. When you install the Speed Bleeders it will take you 6
months to compress the air in the line enough to overcome the spring
tension! Horrible experience! I was going to call Mr. & Mrs. Speed
Bleeder and cusssssss! Anyway, I put the old fittings back on, bled
the brakes to get the lines filled again. Then all you do is remove
the original fittings and put in the Speed Bleeders! LEAVE THE CAPS
ON THE MASTER CYLINDERS!!! IF YOU DON'T, ALL OF THE FLUID WILL DRAIN
OUT OF THE LINES WHEN YOU REMOVE THE OLD FITTINGS AND YOU WILL GET TO
PRACTICE THE PROCEDURE AGAIN!
Thanks again for all the Hep guys!
Greg in Dallas & calm again!
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Greg Paul" wrote: > Thanks for the info and "hep" guys! Stripped one of the damn screws > so gonna have to use the impact wrench on it. Hope that little box is > strong enough to take it.... :-O I guess these are the kinds of > things we have suffer through to successfully enjoy that machine but > them thar screws are history!!!! Thanks again! > > Greg in Dallas > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Greg Paul" wrote: > > Hep me, Hep me please.... > > > > Supposed to go riding tomorrow so I thought I'd install my skid > > plate, speed bleeders and load it up with some fresh fluid. Skid > > plate was a breeze. Bleeders.... Well....... I am assuming this is > > correct; the front brake fluid is filled at the small sort of > square > > box with the sight window right next to the brake lever?!? The > cover > > is held on by two small phillips head screws. Simply remove the two > > screws, pump it dry, install the speed bleeder, fill with fluid, > pump > > it till the line is full, close the speed bleeder, replace the > > cap..... done? > > > > I have nearly stripped the phillips screws trying to budge them. Am > I > > doing something wrong or is it dynamite time? Well maybe impact > > wrench time. Can't believe those two tiny screws are in there so > > tight! Am I alone or do I have company?(( > > > > Greg in Dallas
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Don Detloff
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them with cap screws so this will "never" happen again cuz now I can get the dynamite closer to the head of the screw!> You won't believe where I found the > replacement screws..... Loew's hardware! Man, they have these bins > that have all kinds of metric screws and cheap! Take a look there > if you have one in your area (I don't own their stock)
Were the metric fasteners you got at Lowes stainless? I can find metric fasteners, but not in stainless. Don Detloff Fair Haven, MI A14>
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Pierre Fortier
bleeding front brake
You are very funny people who changes parts on bike just because others
do...stock bleeder work fine and we need to bleed brake maybe 1 or 2 times
in a life of the bike...it is like the supposed weakness of front brakes...i
make front tire slide with 2 fingers on brake lever... so why change brake
line and \or pads it will not make tire more stick on asphalt...i'll stop
here but there are many others examples...
I suppose the low cost of the bike leave too much money then some people had
to spend it on some gogosses
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Paul" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Bleeding Front Brake > Final Heads Up! > > I did manage to strip that damn phillips screw! Then tried to use the > impact wrench on it and "no go". I think the reason being that the > whole assembly has too much flex so you can't get a good solid hit. > Anyway, I finally got out the screw extractor set. Drilled it and > extracted it! Piece of #@$)*!!! You won't believe where I found the > replacement screws..... Loew's hardware! Man, they have these bins > that have all kinds of metric screws and cheap! Take a look there if > you have one in your area (I don't own their stock)
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Tengai650
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At 3:29 AM +0000 5/20/01, lahearn@... wrote:
Better yet, use a 60cc syringe which costs zero if you or a friend works in a hospital or lab! Mark B2 A2 A3>Better yet invest $26 in a mitivac at the auto parts store and suck >it out from the bottom.
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Greg Paul
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They did have a bunch of stainless but not the screws for the master
cylinder. Those I got were called #8... whatever that is, zinc I
think. Come to think of it, they did have the right screw size in
stainless but were out of them. Anyway, it's worth a look!
Greg in Dallas
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Don Detloff" wrote: > > You won't believe where I found the > > replacement screws..... Loew's hardware! Man, they have these bins > > that have all kinds of metric screws and cheap! Take a look there > > if you have one in your area (I don't own their stock)
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Greg Paul
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Pierre,
You are absolutely right! I only installed Speed Bleeders because
someone else did theirs... you know "keeping up with the Joneses"
It had absolutely nothing to with not being able to reach the right
front brake lever and the left side of the front wheel hub at the
same time!
You're also right about the cheap bike! We all have way too much
money left over..... it is really sickening! If I can't figure a way
to get rid of all that "left over" money in my wallet I'm gonna just
have to use it for fire starter at my next camp out! I HATE THE STUFF!
You know, you should get a KLR and find out what it's like to be in
that horrible position of excess wealth. That's also one of the main
reasons for this list.... we don't like to suffer alone. We're all
trying to trash our cash together hence the wonderful ideas suggested
to each other!
Anyway buddy, we're glad you're hear with us and hope someday you'll
break down, get that KLR650 and join us! ))))))
Greg suffering with too much loot in Dallas!
It had absolutely nothing to with not being able to reach the right
front brake lever and the left side of the front wheel hub at the
same time!
You're also right about the cheap bike! We all have way too much
money left over..... it is really sickening! If I can't figure a way
to get rid of all that "left over" money in my wallet I'm gonna just
have to use it for fire starter at my next camp out! I HATE THE STUFF!
You know, you should get a KLR and find out what it's like to be in
that horrible position of excess wealth. That's also one of the main
reasons for this list.... we don't like to suffer alone. We're all
trying to trash our cash together hence the wonderful ideas suggested
to each other!
Anyway buddy, we're glad you're hear with us and hope someday you'll
break down, get that KLR650 and join us! ))))))
Greg suffering with too much loot in Dallas!
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Pierre Fortier" wrote: > You are very funny people who changes parts on bike just because others > do...stock bleeder work fine and we need to bleed brake maybe 1 or 2 times > in a life of the bike...it is like the supposed weakness of front brakes...i > make front tire slide with 2 fingers on brake lever... so why change brake > line and \or pads it will not make tire more stick on asphalt...i'll stop > here but there are many others examples... > > I suppose the low cost of the bike leave too much money then some people had > to spend it on some gogosses > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Paul" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:54 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Bleeding Front Brake > > > > Final Heads Up! > > > > I did manage to strip that damn phillips screw! Then tried to use the > > impact wrench on it and "no go". I think the reason being that the > > whole assembly has too much flex so you can't get a good solid hit. > > Anyway, I finally got out the screw extractor set. Drilled it and > > extracted it! Piece of #@$)*!!! You won't believe where I found the > > replacement screws..... Loew's hardware! Man, they have these bins > > that have all kinds of metric screws and cheap! Take a look there if > > you have one in your area (I don't own their stock)
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Cloyce D. Spradling
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On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0400, Pierre Fortier wrote: : ...stock bleeder work fine and we need to bleed brake maybe 1 or 2 times : in a life of the bike... I don't know about you, but I'm planning on keeping my bike for more than a year or two. So I'm looking at bleeding more than once or twice... What do you consider a normal "life of a bike"? : it is like the supposed weakness of front brakes...i : make front tire slide with 2 fingers on brake lever... You must have strong fingers, or maybe very cheap tires! : I suppose the low cost of the bike leave too much money then some people had : to spend it on some gogosses Yes. Pesky stuff, that money. -- Cloyce A13
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Pierre Fortier
bleeding front brake
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cloyce D. Spradling" To: "Pierre Fortier" Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Bleeding Front Brake > I don't know about you, but I'm planning on keeping my bike for more than > a year or two. So I'm looking at bleeding more than once or twice... As long as you don't let air enter the system you don't have to bleed...i hope you don't mean you change your brake fluid every year lol > > What do you consider a normal "life of a bike" 10 years average... > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Andrus Chesley
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BMW and Kawasaki has it as a yearly maintenance item.
Andy Chesley
Jennings, La.
KLR & R11RA
----- Original Message ----- > As long as you don't let air enter the system you don't have to bleed...i > hope you don't mean you change your brake fluid every year lol
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