(nklr) moron forest management (i'm mad as hell,and i'm not gon

["Swede"]

Again, guymanbro, the master of the obvious has made a good point. I'll tell you a little story about a place in extreme SE CO. This place is managed by the USFS and was taken over for purposes of protecting the pre-historic petroglyphs in the canyon. The locals don't go there because they know of places that were a little more nice, but now are alot better. No motorized vehicles can go there, never have. However, since the hiking masses from the urban centers of the state have found it, it has seen serious damage. I know that it is these people because of their intelligence in signing their name and where they're from on the trail register (I'm not saying all of them). Even though it is posted everywhere not to trace the petroglyphs with chalk, to stay on the trail, to not mess with artifacts, to pack out trash, to not add their infamous names and the date that they were there to the glyphs, and to keep fires in the picnic area fire rings these things still continue to happen. If motorcycles and 4X4s aren't doing it, who exactly is making the new trails, tearing up the picnic areas and walking bridges, leaving litter, and marking up the symbols of little known cultures? Sure as hell ain't me, I can't get in there with my motorcycle, and I've got the decency to leave shit alone! If I ride a trail, I stay on the trail for my own safety (the USFS has closed all of the erosion hazard (uphill) trails), I pack out what I packed in, so what if my bike scared a deer (I bet that cougar scared it more, two days ago), and so what if I roost on a trail - isn't there more earth underneath to replace what I just MOVED? Tell me just what have I done to seriously harm or deminish a trail. You think that person in the wheelchair is pissed because I cleared the fallen tree (that was blown over by the wind) with the chainsaw I carry on the back of my bike? I sure as hell know that the hikers don't appreciate that - they now have more time to carve their friggin' name into a tree, trail sign, or walking bridge and bitch about that asshole with the motorcycle and the chainsaw that's making all the noise and stinking things up as he went by. I've done had it with the ignoramuses that say I'M the friggin' problem, when I see hikers and bicyclists doing hundreds of times the damage that it'd take all of the motorcyclists to do from sheer numbers. By the way it's not the USFS that clears the trails for EVERYONE to use in CO state, it's the asshole like me who takes his own time to do it, on our motorcycles (when allowed). One more thing, do ya think the bicyclists that enjoy the "Slick Rock Bike Trail", in Moab, appreciate the motorcyclists that created it? I've seen leaflets from some arrogant idiots that think mountain bikers created it. "Swede" --- In DSN_klr650@y..., guymanbro@e... wrote: > Lawnmowers don't kill people....people kill people. Same thing with > ANY kind of land use. It's not the type of use but the people who do > the damage. A conscientious biker will do far less damage than a > littering hiker. Exhaust damage affects the environment whether it > comes from a bike on a trail or on a road so keeping bikes out > doesn't change a thing. Fast doesn't hurt anything that doesn't get > in the way. Loud keeps things from getting in the way. > > Education, not elimination, is the key to everything. > Maybe there should be a test to get access to public lands instead of > fees. Fail the test, gotta take a class (for a fee of course). > > Tread lightly and keep your fingers pointed at the beauty which we > ALL deserve to enjoy. > > dat brooklyn bum [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]