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Steve Anderson
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Post by Steve Anderson » Wed Dec 13, 2000 9:55 am

"Real" tire lube is pretty much just antifreeze and water. I have used "real" tire lube and also antifreeze and water. The antifreeze potion works great and just as well as the "real" stuff, and there is nothing wrong with using the "cheap stuff" =]. Anyone else try this? I always figured in a pinch if I'm trail changing, I could get a dribble from the cooling system. Steve A.
--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Brad Davis" wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, rkaub@b... wrote: > > After the holidays I will be installing the Kings rear tire that I > bought > > last summer. > > Some listers were running this tire. > > Is there any reason why I shouldn't be using this tire? > > Thanks. > > Bob Kaub > > Bob, > No, I think you should use them. I have more than 1500 miles on mine. > I think the rear should go nearly 5000 miles and the front 10000 or > more. I haven't had any traction problems and I can't really comment > on offroad performance since 100% of the mileage on them so far has > been on the pavement. I played around with air pressure a bit and > finally settled on 21 psi front and 28 psi rear. Installing the rear > tire was a breeze. I could fit the first bead by hand but I did need > to use irons to fit the 2nd bead. The beads popped right in when I > inflated the tube - piece of cake. The front tire was more difficult > to install for me. The first bead went on easy enough and the second > was a little more difficult. The problem I had was that I could not > get the beads to "set" when I inflated the tube. I was using soap as > a lubricant. I took the tire/rim to my dealer and he swabbed on real > live tire lubricant and the bead just "popped" right on under > inflation (about 35-40 psi I guess). Next time I'll use tire > lubricant for sure. > > Unless I have problems with them down the road I'll install another > set when these wear out. I paid $38 for the front and something like > $51 for the rear. They were the KT977 models. > > Let me know how yours work. > > Oh yeah, one other thing. On my last trip I got 61mpg using premium > fuel. With regular fuel I usually get 58mpg. Overall, the mpg is > higher with the Kings by about 1-2 mpg I think. Maybe the mpg boost > is not related to the tires but who knows? > > Ride on, > Brad A9 1500 miles on the "Kings"

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Post by motor_rider@email.msn.com » Wed Dec 13, 2000 10:00 am

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Steve Anderson" wrote:
> "Real" tire lube is pretty much just antifreeze and water. > > I have used "real" tire lube and also antifreeze and water. > > The antifreeze potion works great and just as well as the "real" > stuff, and there is nothing wrong with using the "cheap stuff" =]. > > > Anyone else try this? > > > I always figured in a pinch if I'm trail changing, I could get a > dribble from the cooling system. > > > Steve A. > >
I know some use liquid Tide and water, I use real tire lube. Cost about $10.00 a gallon and I've had the same gallon for about 4 years now. It's made by, who else but, Camel. MR

Steve Anderson
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Post by Steve Anderson » Wed Dec 13, 2000 10:10 am

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, motor_rider@e... wrote:
> --- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Steve Anderson" > wrote: > > "Real" tire lube is pretty much just antifreeze and water. > > > > I have used "real" tire lube and also antifreeze and water. > > > > The antifreeze potion works great and just as well as the "real" > > stuff, and there is nothing wrong with using the "cheap stuff" =]. > > > > > > Anyone else try this? > > > > > > I always figured in a pinch if I'm trail changing, I could get a > > dribble from the cooling system. > > > > > > Steve A. > > > > > > I know some use liquid Tide and water, I use real tire lube. Cost > about $10.00 a gallon and I've had the same gallon for about 4
years
> now. It's made by, who else but, Camel. > > MR
I used the "real" stuff until I lost it while moving a few years ago. I bought a gallon (about $10), and had barely used a tenth of it when I moved. Time came to mount another tire, and this is when I discovered I didn't have the "real" stuff anymore, so I just used some antifreeze that was sitting around the garage. I never thought the soap actually worked all that well. Steve A.

John Irvine
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Post by John Irvine » Wed Dec 13, 2000 11:17 am

At 04:10 PM 12/13/2000 +0000, Steve Anderson wrote:
>Time came to mount another tire, and this is when I discovered I >didn't have the "real" stuff anymore, so I just used some antifreeze >that was sitting around the garage.
And you can just let the cat lick up the spills.

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Post by TLrydr@aol.com » Wed Dec 13, 2000 12:21 pm

Use 1/2 dawn dish soap and 1//2 water, Small amount on bead and its slippery err than snot on a door knob..... Mike In a message dated 12/13/00 11:11:31 AM EST, standerson@... writes: << I never thought the soap actually worked all that well. >>

Steve Anderson
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Post by Steve Anderson » Wed Dec 13, 2000 12:41 pm

I should have been clearer. It's not that soap doesn't work or isn't slippery, it's just my experience it takes less pressure to seat the beads when using glycol based tire lube. Isn't this what we're trying to accomplish (I refer back to the first post of this thread...) Refering to MY initial post to the thread: I think that while doing a "trailside" tire change that stealing a little coolant might make this take a lot less work on the bike pump or fewer CO2 cartridges or whatever. BTW, I don't have a cat to lick up any coolant that I might spill, but I would more than WELCOME any of the local strays to have at it. Steve A.
> Use 1/2 dawn dish soap and 1//2 water, Small amount on bead and
its
> slippery err than snot on a door knob..... > > Mike > In a message dated 12/13/00 11:11:31 AM EST, standerson@h... writes: > > >

Rob Tayloe
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Post by Rob Tayloe » Wed Dec 13, 2000 1:17 pm

> I never thought the soap actually worked all that well [as a tire lube]. >
Clothes detergents and cleaners can be very caustic and cause a fair amount of oxidation to aluminum. I've heard that soap is not recommended as a tire lubricant for that reason. The gallon of Ru-Glyde that I purchased a few years ago from NAPA indicated that it was a mixture of ethylene glycol (anti-feeeze) and corn syrup. If it is sunny outside, I'll often let the tire set in the sun for a couple of hours before mounting. The warm, softer rubber plus the lubricant makes the tire much easier to mount. It is almost possible to mount the tire using just feet, knees, and hands - with a minor assist from a tire iron. I also use the rubber lubricant to help get the tire off the rim. It is helpful to use baby (talc) powder on the tube to allow it to move more easily inside the tire and not develop pinch spots. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe nukemoto@... Columbus, Ohio

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Post by motor_rider@email.msn.com » Wed Dec 13, 2000 1:26 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Rob Tayloe" wrote:
>
I'll often let the tire set in the sun for
> a couple of hours before mounting. The warm, softer rubber plus > the lubricant makes the tire much easier to mount. It is almost
possible
> to mount the tire using just feet, knees, and hands - with a minor
assist
> from a tire iron.
Absolutely! That's why I try to put off all of my tire changes until mid summer. It makes a huge difference. MR

Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Wed Dec 13, 2000 1:40 pm

> It is almost > possible > > to mount the tire using just feet, knees, and hands - with a minor > assist > > from a tire iron. > > Absolutely! That's why I try to put off all of my tire changes until > mid summer. It makes a huge difference. > > MR >
Drats!! And I'll need to mount a couple of tires soon. Do you think I could take them to a tanning salon? How would they look after a bikini wax? Bogdan

Mark
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Post by Mark » Wed Dec 13, 2000 1:47 pm

At 7:26 PM +0000 12/13/00, motor_rider@... wrote:
>--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Rob Tayloe" wrote: > > >I'll often let the tire set in the sun for > > a couple of hours before mounting. The warm, softer rubber plus > > the lubricant makes the tire much easier to mount. It is almost >possible > > to mount the tire using just feet, knees, and hands - with a minor >assist > > from a tire iron. > >Absolutely! That's why I try to put off all of my tire changes until >mid summer. It makes a huge difference.
In the winter I used the warm interior of my house and mounted tires on the kitchen floor. We recently got a new floor...I'm no longer allowed to mount tires in the house. I'll roast them with the kerosene torpedo heater in the garage now. Mark B2 A2

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