commuter bikes

[Paul Kneisl]

Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the Scottoiler. Scottoiler claims large increases in chain and sprocket life using their product, and also increased time between chain tightenings. But no one who replied about my question reported increased chain life. It seems the main benefit to the Scottoiler is that it is more convienent than manual oiling of the chain, and as a result at least the chain is always oiled, something that might not happen otherwise. If you have any contrary opinion, nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come! Paul Kneisl _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html

[Kurt Simpson (Editor Dual Sport News)]

> Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the > Scottoiler. Scottoiler claims large increases in chain and sprocket life > using their product, and also increased time between chain tightenings. But > no one who replied about my question reported increased chain life. It seems > the main benefit to the Scottoiler is that it is more convienent than manual > oiling of the chain, and as a result at least the chain is always oiled, > something that might not happen otherwise. If you have any contrary opinion, > nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come!

Paul, the list ebbs and flow in its opinions about some products. The Scottoiler is one of them. For awhile there was a flurry of excitement about the product. Many folks bought them and used them. The only downsides I recall were that there wasn't an easy place to mount the external resevoir and they made a bit of a mess. For some time the list has been gravitating to more basic methods. Many of us follow the advice offered by Mike Walburn of Dual Star at one of his excellent clinics at the Utah-Get-Together..buy a quality chain, clean it with WD-40 and then use a bit of chainwax... Kurt

[jirvine@nmsu.edu]

I couldn't comment on life as I sold my FJ1200 after having the oiler on for 20,000. I anticipated many more miles on it. A friend on an FJ got nearly 50,000, usually life on this would be near 25,000 without much abuse. I'm looking to put a manual/squeeze bulb type oiler on the KLR. At 07:59 AM 10/7/00 -0700, you wrote:

> Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the >Scottoiler. Scottoiler claims large increases in chain and sprocket life >using their product, and also increased time between chain tightenings. But >no one who replied about my question reported increased chain life. It seems >the main benefit to the Scottoiler is that it is more convienent than manual >oiling of the chain, and as a result at least the chain is always oiled, >something that might not happen otherwise. If you have any contrary opinion, >nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come! > >Paul Kneisl > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >Let's keep this list SPAM free! > >Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Tom Simpson]

Paul Kneisl wrote:

> > Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the > Scottoiler. Scottoiler claims large increases in chain and sprocket life > using their product, and also increased time between chain tightenings. But > no one who replied about my question reported increased chain life. It seems > the main benefit to the Scottoiler is that it is more convienent than manual > oiling of the chain, and as a result at least the chain is always oiled, > something that might not happen otherwise. If you have any contrary opinion, > nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come! > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

My Scott Oiler indeed seems to be stretching the life of my el-cheapo RK chain I have been running on my KLR for over a year no. With normal lube methods I would kill an RK chain in about 8,000 miles. I am now pushing 10,000 on this chain and it shows little to no evidence of wear. Its a must-have product in my book. -Tom '96 KLR 650 46,000 miles

[thesquasher@hotmail.com]

I don't own a scottoiler but I looked into it for my bike. From reading results from other users on different websites I chose not to get one. The reason - The scottoiler is a manual luber. You have to turn it on and off by hand before and after use. If you forget to turn it off after your done riding you will come back to a puddle of oil on the ground the next day(s). If you forget to turn it on before you start riding, it does no good. Other people said the scootoiler lets oil streak/spray on thier clothing(legs) from the oil flying off the chain. Also there is a problem in adjusting the flow just right. It seems to be either too much or none at all. Personally I dont see a need for it. If you can remember to turn it on before riding then you can remember to spray some lube on the chain also. If you use your KLR in a dusty enviroment the lube from the oiler/chain will mix with the dirt/dust and create a liquid sandpaper type sluge that will wear your chain down anyway. """This is only my opinion"""

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Paul Kneisl wrote: > Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the > Scottoiler. If you have any contrary opinion, > nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come! > > Paul Kneisl >

[jirvine@nmsu.edu]

At 12:36 AM 10/9/00 +0000, you wrote:

> The reason - The scottoiler is a manual luber. You have to >turn it on and off by hand before and after use. Also there is a problem >in adjusting the flow just right. >It seems to be either too much or none at all.

It isn't manual it runs off engine vacuum. The only way it would drip after being shut off is from any previously flung off oil. Mine will leave a drop or two. I have had some problems with adjustability, they replaced it.

[Fred Hink]

[b]The Scottoiler is turned on by engine vacuum.  It is manually adjustable to allow only the oil that you need.  You can read what the Scottoiler web site says: "[/b]

[b]Safe & Reliable[/b] A product like this has to be engineered correctly to be reliable and safe. The Scottoiler has German T V Standards approval, which is regarded by many to be the toughest Standards Organisation in the world. Oil only flows through the RMV unit when there is a vacuum in the inlet manifold tube i.e. when the engine is running. "   http://www.actionstation.com/oiler.html   Fred    

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] thesquasher@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, October 08, 2000 5:36 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] Re: Scottoiler Survey Results I don't own a scottoiler but I looked into it for my bike. From reading results from other users on different websites I chose not to get one. The reason - The scottoiler is a manual luber. You have to turn it on and off by hand before and after use. If you forget to turn it off after your done riding you will come back to a puddle of oil on the ground the next day(s). If you forget to turn it on before you start riding, it does no good. Other people said the scootoiler lets oil streak/spray on thier clothing(legs) from the oil flying off the chain. Also there is a problem in adjusting the flow just right. It seems to be either too much or none at all. Personally I dont see a need for it. If you can remember to turn it on before riding then you can remember to spray some lube on the chain also. If you use your KLR in a dusty enviroment the lube from the oiler/chain will mix with the dirt/dust and create a liquid sandpaper type sluge that will wear your chain down anyway. """This is only my opinion""" --- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Paul Kneisl wrote: >   Recently I asked the list to comment about their experiences with the > Scottoiler. If you have any contrary opinion, > nows the time to speak up before this subject is archieved for eons to come! > > Paul Kneisl > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[JIM JAMES]

Not so! Your oiler isn't hooked up properly, apparently. It works off engine vacuum to cut it on/off and can be set down so low that it leaves a minimal amount of oil on the surrounding area. It takes about 30 minutes to install on of these things properly. Mine works like a champ. James in S.C.

>I chose not to

get one. The reason - The scottoiler is a manual luber. You have to turn it on and off by hand before and after use. If you forget to turn it off after your done riding you will come back to a puddle of oil on the ground the next day(s). If you forget to turn it on before you start riding, it does no good. Other people said the scootoiler lets oil streak/spray on thier clothing(legs) from the oil flying off the chain. Also there is a problem in adjusting the flow just right. It seems to be either too much or none at all. Personally I dont see a need for it.

[Tom Simpson]

thesquasher@... wrote:

> > I don't own a scottoiler but I looked into it for my bike. From > reading results from other users on different websites I chose not to > get one. The reason - The scottoiler is a manual luber. You have to > turn it on and off by hand before and after use. If you forget to > turn it off after your done riding you will come back to a puddle of > oil on the ground the next day(s). If you forget to turn it on before > you start riding, it does no good. Other people said the scootoiler > lets oil streak/spray on thier clothing(legs) from the oil flying off > the chain. Also there is a problem in adjusting the flow just right. > It seems to be either too much or none at all. Personally I dont see > a need for it. If you can remember to turn it on before riding then > you can remember to spray some lube on the chain also. If you use > your KLR in a dusty enviroment the lube from the oiler/chain will mix > with the dirt/dust and create a liquid sandpaper type sluge that will > wear your chain down anyway. """This is only my opinion"""

In my case, I only have about a drop or two of oil on the floor after letting it stand overnight, probably from chain runoff. Also, I have noted no spray or misting of oil on clothing or shoes. I run it at fairy high flow rates using a mix of ATF and STP. I intend to add more STP in the future to try and thicken it up a bit and reduce that last bit of drip. Initial adjustment took some time to figure out in my case but after a little while it stabilized very nicely. I almost never touch it, now. Again, I would not be without one on a chain drive bike. -Tom '96 KLR 650

[Ralph E. Hanson]

I wanted to buy a PC800 in the worst way. Even found a nice used one for about $4,000, but I found my knees hit the fairing. Otherwise, I would have jumped at one. V-twin, hydraulic valves, great windshield, shaft drive, great luggage. I still want one.... But they are built as a 'small' touring bike, so it just wasn't meant to be. Ralph -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph E. Hanson, Ph.D Room 308 Martin Hall Associate Professor West Virginia University P.I. Reed School of Journalism Morgantown, WV 26506-6010 rhanson@... (304) 293-3505, ext. 5412 http://www.wvu.edu/~journal2 --------------------------------------------------------------------