aftermarket shift levers

[OJ Salinas]

what would y'all do, replace the OEM chain with an endless or 'master-link' chain??? advantages?? disadvantages??? thanx oj

>From: dan shaw >To: Conall O'Brien , monahanwb@..., >DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) > >yes, i agree, get a new chain and sprocket before any >long trip and put it on. you can always save the old >ones to use for around town later if its not completly >worn out yet, but having a chain or sprocket wear out >on the road is a BIG inconvenience. its hard to find a >place that has everything in stock, and it can be >dangerous if you push it. > >for some reason my rear sprocket it always the first >part to show wear and i replace it around 10,000 >miles. it seems by the time you can see the teath >wearing, it just starts to go really fast from >there... > >dan > >--- Conall O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > Bill- > > It's been a long time since I've used a original > > equipment KLR chain. I > > would change it before your trip to Idaho, it is an > > endless chain requiring > > you either cut it off or disassemble the rear of the > > bike to remove. I would > > dare to say 16,000 miles is about all you can get > > from that chain. Having > > a bad chain is about the worst thing to happen on > > the road, next to a bad > > drive shaft.I think Dan Shaw will vouch for that. > > BTW KLR chain is 106 links. I use DID brand. > > > > Conall-happiness is fresh chain and sprockets. > > > > >From: monahanwb@... > > >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com > > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:10:19 -0000 > > > > > >Sounds like a bondage magazine title, doesn't it? > > Or maybe a prison > > >weekly? > > > > > >Well, I would like to know what mileage some of > > youse guys are > > >getting out o' them chains o your'n (not chains of > > urine - a phonetic > > >slip). The original, I mean. I've got 16,000 > > reasonably hard miles > > >on mine, and I'm heading off the 5th of August to > > Idaho to ride > > >around there again like I did last summer (Nez > > Perce Ride) and it > > >seems just fine. Maybe Conall has some long > > mileage on his? Or you > > >udder guys? (no, not the moose, the Udder Guys). > > Some of you > > >are "udder guys", right? > > > > > >Any way, mine doesn't show any slop when pulled > > from the rear > > >sprocket, like Mr. T. says to do, and others, and > > it has all its O- > > >rings and links and everything. I've always sprayed > > it with WD-40 to > > >keep it clean, by the way. > > > > > >Wet Willie > > >jes havin fun > > > > > >KLR 98 16,000 > > >R1100RS 97 30,000 > > >Jack Russell Terrier (low mileage) > > >Chiwoggle (mileage unknown) > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/

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[OJ Salinas]

maybe that's what they used at the kawa dealer... they spilled some on the rear tire and it looks like molasses!!!!! where do you get this 90w stuff?? i keep hearing that heavy grease on the chain attracts grit and may decrease the service life.... conversely i heard that lighter oils like wd-40 do not last long enough to prevent accelerated wear.... what gives????? thanx oj '01klr

>From: "John Huber" >To: , , , >DSN_klr650@egroups.com>, "OJ Salinas" >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:36:34 -0600 > >90W is what is used in rear ends of vehicles. I've been using is and quite >like it. It is quite sticky, but it works. >John >A7 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: OJ Salinas > To: dan_iss@... ; klr_a7@... ; monahanwb@... ; >DSN_klr650@egroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life > > > what else besides wd-40 do y'all use to lube your chains? has anyone >found > that something works better??? i need to slap some goop on the chainoly >but > not sure what to use.... i think the owners manual says 90w???? whats up > with that and what is 90w??????? sounds like it may slow me > down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > oj > > > > > > > >From: dan shaw > >To: Conall O'Brien , monahanwb@..., > >DSN_klr650@egroups.com > >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life > >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) > > > >yes, i agree, get a new chain and sprocket before any > >long trip and put it on. you can always save the old > >ones to use for around town later if its not completly > >worn out yet, but having a chain or sprocket wear out > >on the road is a BIG inconvenience. its hard to find a > >place that has everything in stock, and it can be > >dangerous if you push it. > > > >for some reason my rear sprocket it always the first > >part to show wear and i replace it around 10,000 > >miles. it seems by the time you can see the teath > >wearing, it just starts to go really fast from > >there... > > > >dan > > > >--- Conall O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bill- > > > It's been a long time since I've used a original > > > equipment KLR chain. I > > > would change it before your trip to Idaho, it is an > > > endless chain requiring > > > you either cut it off or disassemble the rear of the > > > bike to remove. I would > > > dare to say 16,000 miles is about all you can get > > > from that chain. Having > > > a bad chain is about the worst thing to happen on > > > the road, next to a bad > > > drive shaft.I think Dan Shaw will vouch for that. > > > BTW KLR chain is 106 links. I use DID brand. > > > > > > Conall-happiness is fresh chain and sprockets. > > > > > > >From: monahanwb@... > > > >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com > > > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR Chain Life > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:10:19 -0000 > > > > > > > >Sounds like a bondage magazine title, doesn't it? > > > Or maybe a prison > > > >weekly? > > > > > > > >Well, I would like to know what mileage some of > > > youse guys are > > > >getting out o' them chains o your'n (not chains of > > > urine - a phonetic > > > >slip). The original, I mean. I've got 16,000 > > > reasonably hard miles > > > >on mine, and I'm heading off the 5th of August to > > > Idaho to ride > > > >around there again like I did last summer (Nez > > > Perce Ride) and it > > > >seems just fine. Maybe Conall has some long > > > mileage on his? Or you > > > >udder guys? (no, not the moose, the Udder Guys). > > > Some of you > > > >are "udder guys", right? > > > > > > > >Any way, mine doesn't show any slop when pulled > > > from the rear > > > >sprocket, like Mr. T. says to do, and others, and > > > it has all its O- > > > >rings and links and everything. I've always sprayed > > > it with WD-40 to > > > >keep it clean, by the way. > > > > > > > >Wet Willie > > > >jes havin fun > > > > > > > >KLR 98 16,000 > > > >R1100RS 97 30,000 > > > >Jack Russell Terrier (low mileage) > > > >Chiwoggle (mileage unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

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[Dash Weeks]

At 04:40 PM 7/27/2000 -0500, OJ Salinas wrote:

>maybe that's what they used at the kawa dealer... they spilled some on the >rear tire and it looks like molasses!!!!! where do you get this 90w stuff?? > >i keep hearing that heavy grease on the chain attracts grit and may decrease >the service life.... conversely i heard that lighter oils like wd-40 do not >last long enough to prevent accelerated wear.... what gives????? > >thanx > >oj >'01klr

Well..... an O-ring chain is internally lubricated. So you aren't actually lubricating an o-ring chain, you want to keep the grime off of it because grime acts like sandpaper and it will eventually cause the demise of your chain. It has, however, been said that it is a good idea to lubricate the chain for chain sprocket interaction. I use WD40 ONLY. I don't clean it with kero, I just put a drip pan under my chain, toss it in first, commence the balancing act and spray the chain until the grime is gone. You can wash off the dust with water, with Kero or anything you like. I use a rag sprayed with WD40 and it comes off quickly for me. I own a can of chain wax but I'm using WD-40 ONLY for experimental purposes. I have a new DID X-ring, New Sunstart Sprokets and one tooth down in the front. Proper chain tension is key and I pay attention to that. Do what makes you sleep better at night, 9 times out of 10 you'll be right. We all have "our" way of doing things. None of them are absolutely right, none of them are absolutely wrong. Just find your way and Stick with it. This is a really dead horse by the way... please check the archives for a complete story of who's right and who's wrong. laterZ Dash

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I use the master link style chain (DID V ring). I also haven't had a chain lose a master link in 10 years. The advantage to a master link style chain is I can remove the chain without too much difficulty. I carry a extra master link just in case. Kawasaki recommends only endless chains. Liability issue. Conall A4 KLR650 Skyhawk

[Chris Krok]

> >Please refresh my memory, who makes aftermarket shiflevers for the KLR > >650? I have an IMS on my bike but it is so damn soft that I end up having to > >tighten it every day and have already had to widen the gap twice. I know > >that the lever itself is supposed to be soft but where it clamps onto the > >shaft is soft'rn peanut butter. > I have that very same problem. Daryl has a Moose lever and it does the > same thing. Hey Chris... when ya gonna make something worth our money? I > think we found a use for that Ti bar you had laying around...

Hey, THAT I like. I'll have to see if I can find the right spline broach. But man, if my Moose shifter is going to do that too, I think I'll just beef up the welds on the stock unit. I'll keep an eye on it. C -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok Project Engineer, Adaptive Wall Wind Tunnel Graduate Aeronautical Laboratories, California Institute of Technology MS 205-45 Phone: 626.395.4794 Pasadena, CA 91125 Fax: 626.449.2677