nklr courtesy, enviro, sci-fi tires

[Jim & Shannon Morehead]

Hi Luke,   I took my first ride with my new Kili jacket yesterday morning and found it quite cool and comfortable.  It's my first ventilated jacket so I didn't really know what to expect.  My shadow on the road looked a little like the Michelin Man with the jacket "inflated" by the wind.  There are reinforced areas with pads on the shoulders, elbows and back that should help prevent some road rash, but I sure hope not to test that feature.   Jim 

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] lreimer@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, May 24, 2000 11:09 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] Looking for Summer Jacket Recommendation All,   I'm looking for a quality, lightweight jacket for mostly summer riding that will prevent road rash in the event that I fall ..... I've seen a number of people talk about the Kilamanjaro jacket, and the local MC store recommends it.   Any suggestions? My priorities after protection are coolness/breathability and lightweight.   Thanks ! Luke SJ, CA ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] morehead@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:23 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] NKLR Jacket Well, I am the proud owner of a brand spanking new Kilimanjaro jacket!  Grey and Black.  The fit and finish of the jacket seems excellent.  I think I got a pretty good price ($275, incl tax.) at a local area dealer.  The deal may have been easier due to the fact that it is near 100 degrees F. here in Okieland today. Buying a jacket on one of the hottest days of the year may be the thing to do!! What's happened to Fred?  I have written to him a couple of times in the last week or so, but no response.  Maybe the Moab preparations are keeping him busy. Later all. Jim Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

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[ephilride@aol.com]

lreimer@... writes:

> I'm looking for a quality, lightweight jacket for mostly summer riding that > will prevent road rash in the event that I fall ..... I've seen a number of > people talk about the Kilamanjaro jacket, and the local MC store recommends > it.

The Kili is a mighty fine jacket but I bought an Aero-Darien - Hi Viz Yellow. The good ventilation of the Kili will help keep you kool when moving but the "basic black" will cook you when putting around or stopped. Likewise, the Hi-Viz is hot when stopped but nothing like the black. Summertime comfort and road rash protection is a hard combo to obtain. I like a white helmet for summertime also. Knot - cool headed with the geek jacket. ps: another drawback to the Darien is you will have to wait for several weeks due to backlog in addition to having to pay more $$.

[Jeffrey L. Walker]

  Hi Luke,   I took my first ride with my new Kili jacket yesterday morning and found it quite cool and comfortable.  It's my first ventilated jacket so I didn't really know what to expect.  My shadow on the road looked a little like the Michelin Man with the jacket "inflated" by the wind.  There are reinforced areas with pads on the shoulders, elbows and back that should help prevent some road rash, but I sure hope not to test that feature.  

If you open the vent zipper across the back then the Kili shouldn't inflate like that, it will pass the air through.   Jeff

[Scherer, Michael]

I wish I had the instruction book for this jacket. I have the vents open but I am wondering if I am using the velcro to hold them open properly. Yes, I am a dumbass. Biker Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey L. Walker [mailto:jlwalk@...] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:43 AM To: DSN_klr650; Luke Reimer; Jim & Shannon Morehead Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Looking for Summer Jacket Recommendation Hi Luke, I took my first ride with my new Kili jacket yesterday morning and found it quite cool and comfortable. It's my first ventilated jacket so I didn't really know what to expect. My shadow on the road looked a little like the Michelin Man with the jacket "inflated" by the wind. There are reinforced areas with pads on the shoulders, elbows and back that should help prevent some road rash, but I sure hope not to test that feature. If you open the vent zipper across the back then the Kili shouldn't inflate like that, it will pass the air through. Jeff _____ http://view.avenuea.com/view/egroups_goguides_BA1006_WEBTEXT_050900sg_02/at ./direct/01> http://image.avenuea.com/banners/goguides/web_bottom1.gif> http://adimg.egroups.com/img/4397/5/_/911801/_/959265637/1x1.gif> _____ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650> Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Jim & Shannon Morehead]

Hi Mike, I felt exactly the same way. I just opened everything up, including the back vent, and tried it. I've never seen more velcro on one garment. BTW I think that huge deep pocket on the inside is intended to hold a water bottle the First Gear sells. Jim

----- Original Message ----- From: Scherer, Michael To: DSN_klr650 DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Looking for Summer Jacket Recommendation > I wish I had the instruction book for this jacket. I have the vents open > but I am wondering if I am using the velcro to hold them open properly. > Yes, I am a dumbass. > > Biker Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey L. Walker [mailto:jlwalk@...] > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:43 AM > To: DSN_klr650; Luke Reimer; Jim & Shannon Morehead > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Looking for Summer Jacket Recommendation > > > > > Hi Luke, > > I took my first ride with my new Kili jacket yesterday morning and found it > quite cool and comfortable. It's my first ventilated jacket so I didn't > really know what to expect. My shadow on the road looked a little like the > Michelin Man with the jacket "inflated" by the wind. There are reinforced > areas with pads on the shoulders, elbows and back that should help prevent > some road rash, but I sure hope not to test that feature. > > > If you open the vent zipper across the back then the Kili shouldn't inflate > like that, it will pass the air through. > > Jeff > _____ > > > > http://view.avenuea.com/view/egroups_goguides_BA1006_WEBTEXT_050900sg_02/at > ./direct/01> > > http://image.avenuea.com/banners/goguides/web_bottom1.gif> > > http://adimg.egroups.com/img/4397/5/_/911801/_/959265637/1x1.gif> > _____ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650> > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Find long lost high school friends: > http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/5/_/911801/_/959273065/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

[Jeff Walker]

> Hi Mike, > > I felt exactly the same way. I just opened everything up, including the > back vent, and tried it. I've never seen more velcro on one garment. BTW

I

> think that huge deep pocket on the inside is intended to hold a water

bottle

> the First Gear sells. > > Jim

You are correct sir! However, any Camelback knockoff water bladder will work in a pinch, so long as it isn't too big. I have one that holds two liters of water, and it doesn't fit, but the one liter bladder fits with room to spare. Jeff

[Chris Krok]

Howdy, all... Re: Trail courtesy I was riding a fire road in Angeles NF last summer when I came across two mountain bikers on an uphill switchback turn. They were on the outside edge, and the second bike had just made the apex, but I decided to take the inside track and pass them. Mind you, I was very careful to modulate the clutch and avoid any roost, but to this day I wish I had waited until they had cleared the turn before I passed. That way, the line of fire from my rear wheel would've never crossed them, and there probably would've been more room. Maybe this is too goofy, and you wouldn't be able to free up a hand to operate it, but has anyone tried a bicycle bell? That would be a bit less startling than the Big Gun, or a handheld marine air horn... Re: enviros Actually, we're probably better off not joining the Sierra Club. Many of you probably read the article from MC_Politics, but a subgroup of the SC called the Muirists are gaining control. They are the super-radicals, and may be viewed as so radical and uncompromising as to lose support from the general population (i.e., non Sierra Club members). But yes, we have to work from our end, too. Re: Sci-fi tires Anyone read the book Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson? Abrupt ending, but a great book overall, with a few very plausible insights into the future (not necessarily the ones I'm about to describe). Anyway, at one point the protagonist buys a new Yamaha. For one, the engine is silent, as it converts fuel to energy with near 100% efficiency, not wasting any by generating noise. The neat part was the tires, though. The tread consisted of a matrix of small, independent hexagonal pads, connected to the hub via telescoping spokes. A milimeter-wave radar in the bike detected upcoming obstacles, and the wheel would adapt at the moment of crossing to glide over the obstacle. Pretty slick. I'll get cracking on the project presently. Chris -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok Project Engineer, Adaptive Wall Wind Tunnel Graduate Aeronautical Laboratories, California Institute of Technology MS 205-45 Phone: 626.395.4794 Pasadena, CA 91125 Fax: 626.449.2677