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[kevin betts]

Hi all I set checked the valves on my 89 klr 650 ,the intake were just a little tite went the next size smaller, ex. is in the middle left them alone but now the engine is not running good .had the cams off so i had to reset the chain had the TDS or T up and set the arrows on the cam gears to the front but they were not perfectly straight with each other but not a hole tooth worth . Pulled the chain tensioner and reset it . no change the engine ran great befor so i am stumped , any help ? Kevin b

[L L]

Mine is also an 89, and when i did my valves i got the same results(besides my previous carb problems...) the arrows woud not line up exactly paralel with the head, It was for sure at T. and also the arrows were at slightly diffrent angles from each other, just like you said. so I set everything as close as i could get, reset the tentioner about 5 times, re mounted the cams 2 times, no change. I wonder if my chain is stretched or something. I do not know about a running difference because something is still wrong in my carb, at 1/4 throttle it has a big dead spot i have to jump over to keep it running...

>From: "kevin betts" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] valve adjustment >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:46:14 -0000 > > Hi all I set checked the valves on my 89 klr 650 ,the intake were >just a little tite went the next size smaller, ex. is in the middle >left them alone but now the engine is not running good .had the cams >off so i had to reset the chain had the TDS or T up and set the >arrows on the cam gears to the front but they were not perfectly >straight with each other but not a hole tooth worth . Pulled the >chain tensioner and reset it . no change the engine ran great befor >so i am stumped , any help ? Kevin b > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[mwl_95623]

I can't help with your current problem but I can help you avoid future problems. There is no need to remove the cams when adjusting the valves. Instead remove the cam caps, gently lift the cam, and swap the shims. It might be a good idea to buy Phantom Jay's Valve Adjustment video. I think it's $25 well spent dollars. Matt

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "L L" wrote: > Mine is also an 89, and when i did my valves i got the same results(besides > my previous carb problems...) the arrows woud not line up exactly paralel > with the head, It was for sure at T. and also the arrows were at slightly > diffrent angles from each other, just like you said. so I set everything as > close as i could get, reset the tentioner about 5 times, re mounted the cams > 2 times, no change. I wonder if my chain is stretched or something. I do not > know about a running difference because something is still wrong in my carb, > at 1/4 throttle it has a big dead spot i have to jump over to keep it > running... > > > > > > > >From: "kevin betts" > >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_klr650] valve adjustment > >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:46:14 -0000 > > > > Hi all I set checked the valves on my 89 klr 650 ,the intake were > >just a little tite went the next size smaller, ex. is in the middle > >left them alone but now the engine is not running good .had the cams > >off so i had to reset the chain had the TDS or T up and set the > >arrows on the cam gears to the front but they were not perfectly > >straight with each other but not a hole tooth worth . Pulled the > >chain tensioner and reset it . no change the engine ran great befor > >so i am stumped , any help ? Kevin b > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> I can't help with your current problem but I can help you avoid future > problems. There is no need to remove the cams when adjusting the > valves. Instead remove the cam caps, gently lift the cam, and swap > the shims. It might be a good idea to buy Phantom Jay's Valve > Adjustment video. I think it's $25 well spent dollars.

Or - just for the record - the FREE alternative: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.htm Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark St.Hilaire, Sr" wrote:

> > I can't help with your current problem but I can help you avoid

future

> > problems. There is no need to remove the cams when adjusting the > > valves. Instead remove the cam caps, gently lift the cam, and

swap

> > the shims. It might be a good idea to buy Phantom Jay's Valve > > Adjustment video. I think it's $25 well spent dollars. > > Or - just for the record - the FREE alternative: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.htm > > Mark

To supplement the record, Mark's free alternative is excellent, plus , when printed out, the margins are wide enough to keep a record of your findings, giving you a reasonable shot at having the right shims on hand the next time you do the job.

[mwl_95623]

My apologies Mark. For the record I do use your procedures. They're at my side when I actually do the work. They are excellent and very much appreciated. Being able to work on my own machine adds significantly to the overall enjoyment and saftey of the motorcyling experience. A big part of my decision to go with the KLR was based on the availability of information provided by you, Devon, Jay, and other members of this list. Thank You (everyone) Very Much! Matt

> > Or - just for the record - the FREE alternative: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.htm > > Mark > > > > KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: > http://klr6500.tripod.com/ > > HomePage: > http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html > > My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If > you don't get a response, please try: > KLR6500@h...

[eblansfield]

I just finished checking my valve clearaces thanks to Mark's excellent procedures. My intake clearances were .102mm (.004) and .152mm (.006) and the exhaust were .152mm (.006) and .178mm (.007). So a couple of them are right at the minimum clearance. My bike only has 600 miles on it. Should I go ahead and adjust them now or wait until they get out of specs. Should I take it to the dealer and have them do it since it is under warranty or do it myself. No sure if it would void the warranty. Didn't seem like it would be too difficult using Marks' procedures. Any advice is greatly apprecited. Thanks Earl A16

[RM]

On Sat, 17 May 2003, eblansfield wrote:

>I just finished checking my valve clearaces thanks to Mark's excellent >procedures. My intake clearances were .102mm (.004) and .152mm (.006) >and the exhaust were .152mm (.006) and .178mm (.007). So a couple of >them are right at the minimum clearance. My bike only has 600 miles on >it. Should I go ahead and adjust them now or wait until they get out of >specs.

I urge you to adjust them to the loose-end of the spec. You've already done 90% of the work, you might as well adjust them. That way you won't need to worry about them again for a long time. The bike really does run a bit smoother with loose valves, too. For the .007 exhaust, you'll have to settle for .009" (or else go out to .011" and risk having noise), but that's the way the cookie crumbles. My ZR-7 calls for .003" to .007". On some of mine I went with .008" when .007" wasn't possible, and they're pretty tappy as a result. I've never went beyond spec on my KLR so I don't know how it'll react. RM

[dooden]

Mine is half stripped in the garage right now, waiting for the shims from Fred to arrive. ( Just order them from him, you will not beat his prices, hell I aint figured out how he can sell them for $3.99 ) I ordered the 3 I needed ( get to reuse one ) to set them to max spec, and will check them again in a couple years. If you can go without the bike (assuming its apart now) for a few days, might as well just wait, since its a PITA to put all the junk back on it and then have to remove it again just to drop the shims in. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "eblansfield" wrote:

> I just finished checking my valve clearaces thanks to Mark's > excellent procedures. My intake clearances were .102mm (.004) > and .152mm (.006) and the exhaust were .152mm (.006) and .178mm > (.007). So a couple of them are right at the minimum clearance. My > bike only has 600 miles on it. Should I go ahead and adjust them

[Tony Cornett]

My Kawasaki wrench exchanges the ones that I need for free. TC

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dooden" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Valve Adjustment > Mine is half stripped in the garage right now, waiting for the shims > from Fred to arrive. ( Just order them from him, you will not beat his > prices, hell I aint figured out how he can sell them for $3.99 ) > > > > > I ordered the 3 I needed ( get to reuse one ) to set them to max spec, > and will check them again in a couple years. > > > > > If you can go without the bike (assuming its apart now) for a few > days, might as well just wait, since its a PITA to put all the junk > back on it and then have to remove it again just to drop the shims in. > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "eblansfield" > wrote: > > > > I just finished checking my valve clearaces thanks to Mark's > > > > excellent procedures. My intake clearances were .102mm (.004) > > > > and .152mm (.006) and the exhaust were .152mm (.006) and .178mm > > > > (.007). So a couple of them are right at the minimum clearance. My > > > > bike only has 600 miles on it. Should I go ahead and adjust them > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >