2007 klr 650 for sale

[Robert Waters]

 Here is a problem that I can't figure out.  I rode all day and as I was getting home, less than a quarter mile from my drive way, I ran out of gas.  So, I reached down and turned the petcock to reserve and the engine came to life and got me on up the road and into the drive way, just as it is supposed to do.  However, the next day when I went to go to town it ran out of fuel about a mile down the road.  This time it was already  on reserve and I was OUT of gas. 

 

Now, what happened to the rest of the gas?  I have not observed any leaking of fuel.  Any experiences or guesses?

 

 

 

The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

[farqhuar]

Are you sure you didn t turn the fuel tap to OFF instead of RESERVE?

 

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Robert Waters [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, 25 September 2013 11:44 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Problem with tank reserve

 

 

 Here is a problem that I can't figure out.  I rode all day and as I was getting home, less than a quarter mile from my drive way, I ran out of gas.  So, I reached down and turned the petcock to reserve and the engine came to life and got me on up the road and into the drive way, just as it is supposed to do.  However, the next day when I went to go to town it ran out of fuel about a mile down the road.  This time it was already  on reserve and I was OUT of gas. 

 

Now, what happened to the rest of the gas?  I have not observed any leaking of fuel.  Any experiences or guesses?

 

 

 

The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

[Mark Harfenist]

The same thing happened to me once (and only once) in a hundred thousand miles of KLR-ing.  No explanation, no warning--just an empty tank when I shifted to reserve from main.  I was on a very lonely road through the Andes at the time, rendering potential consequences severe.  And then, since it's never happened again, I forgot all about it and lived in innocent bliss.  Until now.  

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

robertwaters@...?subject=Re%3A%20Problem%20with%20tank%20reserve

Here is a problem that I can't figure out.  I rode all day and as I was getting home, less than a quarter mile from my drive way, I ran out of gas.  So, I reached down and turned the petcock to reserve and the engine came to life and got me on up the road and into the drive way, just as it is supposed to do.  However, the next day when I went to go to town it ran out of fuel about a mile down the road.  This time it was already  on reserve and I was OUT of gas.  

  Now, what happened to the rest of the gas?  I have not observed any leaking of fuel.  Any experiences or guesses?

[Robert Waters]

 Thanks, for the thought, but yes, I'm sure I did not turn the fuel tap to off because I turned it to reserve when it ran out the first time (it got me the     quarter mile home) and I never changed it back.  And it was out of gas.  I shook it and could hear nothing.  There must be a leak somewhere because I only got 230 miles on that tank whereas I usually get 250 or more before hitting reserve.

 

 

Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

farqhuarforever@...?subject=Re%3A%20Problem%20with%20tank%20reserve

Are you sure you didn t turn the fuel tap to OFF instead of RESERVE? From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Waters Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 11:44 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Problem with tank reserve Here is a problem that I can't figure out. I rode all day and as I was getting home, less than a quarter mile from my drive way, I ran out of gas. So, I reached down and turned the petcock to reserve and the engine came to life and got me on up the road and into the drive way, just as it is supposed to do. However, the next day when I went to go to town it ran out of fuel about a mile down the road. This time it was already on reserve and I was OUT of gas. Now, what happened to the rest of the gas? I have not observed any leaking of fuel. Any experiences or guesses?

[Fred Hink]

The petcock selector valve has a rubber seal with four holes in it.  The four holes have a raised part of the seal that sometimes gets brittle and breaks off.  If the raised part of this seal between the reserve and the main tank leak, you will be using fuel out of the reserve tank at all times.  If the vacuum shutoff feature is working and not disabled, the flow of fuel should be shut off by the vacuum shutoff feature when your engine is off.    It is easy to check the rubber seal with four holes by disassembling the petcock.  If the edges of this seal are ragged or missing, you can try turning over this seal and use the backside as it should be just like the front side.  I find these broken rubber seals are one of the most common problem with the float not shutting off and over-filling the float chamber.  These rubber bits either get caught in the float valve or in the jets inside the carburetor.  It would be worth a check just to see the condition of your rubber seals.   Has your oil level in the engine gone up recently?  If your gas isn t going out on the ground, it is going inside your engine past the piston rings and into the crankcase.  Check the smell of your oil and if it smells like gasoline, it would be best to change your oil too.   Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com   [b]From:[/b] robertwaters@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:44 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Problem with tank reserve    

Here is a problem that I can't figure out.  I rode all day and as I was getting home, less than a quarter mile from my drive way, I ran out of gas.  So, I reached down and turned the petcock to reserve and the engine came to life and got me on up the road and into the drive way, just as it is supposed to do.  However, the next day when I went to go to town it ran out of fuel about a mile down the road.  This time it was already  on reserve and I was OUT of gas.    Now, what happened to the rest of the gas?  I have not observed any leaking of fuel.  Any experiences or guesses?       The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

[Jeff Saline]

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off by the vacuum shutoff feature when your engine is off.    It is easy to check the rubber seal with four holes by disassembling the petcock.  If the edges of this seal are ragged or missing, you can try turning over this seal and use the backside as it should be just like the front side.  I find these broken rubber seals are one of the most common problem with the float not shutting off and over-filling the float chamber.  These rubber bits either get caught in the float valve or in the jets inside the carburetor.  It would be worth a check just to see the condition of your rubber seals.   Has your oil level in the engine gone up recently?  If your gas isn t going out on the ground, it is going inside your engine past the piston rings and into the crankcase.  Check the smell of your oil and if it smells like gasoline, it would be best to change your oil too.   Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><>   Fred,   That is a great post!  : )  That is the first time I've heard mention of the possibility of cross flow from reserve to main.  The gasket you mention costs less than $3 last time I checked and if I recall correctly it is called "Packing" by Kawasaki.   I was inspecting and cleaning the petcock on my tank a week or two ago and lubed the o-rings and the gasket you are talking about with a "glistening"* of silicone plumbers grease.  The petcock tends to work smoother and seal better if a little maintenance is provided every "now and then"**.   Silicone plumbers grease is normally found in the plumbing section of decent hardware stores.  A very small tub will cost about $6 and will last a very very long time if only touched by clean finger tips.   To effectively use the silicone plumbers grease put a "dab"*** or less on the tip of your pointer finger.  Then rub the thumb of the same hand with the greased finger.  Put the item (o-ring or other rubber part) between the finger and thumb and rub them so you get only a glistening of grease on the part.  Do not let "gobs or globs"**** of grease get on the part as they will not be dissolved by fuel and will clog fuel passages.   * "glistening" is a technical term used to describe a not easily measured amount of a substance.  It is visually judged and adjusted by removal or reapplication as determined by the person using the term.   ** "now and then" is a technical term used to measure a variable time interval determined by the person using the phrase.   *** "dab" is a technical term used to describe the volume of a noncritical amount.  It falls somewhere between a smidgen and a drop.   **** "gobs or globs" are technical terms used to describe amounts that are more than a smidgen but less than a dollop.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . .   ____________________________________________________________ [b]Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)[/b] 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease 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[Robert Waters]

Thanks guys for the replies.  I think I will try to fix it even though there is the possibility of it never happening again.  Here is one thing I want to point out again:  the I only got 230 miles on that entire FULL tank whereas I normally would get 250 before reserve kicked in.  Thus, I'm inclined to believe there is a leak somewhere.  I check the oil and it is right where I put it before the trip. Here is one thing about the fuel: it was EZ MARK fuel (cheaper) and that could have been the problem, but I have my doubts about that.

 

 

 

[RobertWichert]

How about they cheated you on either the quality of the gas or the meter was wrong or you didn't fill it up all the way. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 9/26/2013 4:38 AM, Robert Waters wrote:

  Thanks guys for the replies.  I think I will try to fix it even though there is the possibility of it never happening again.  Here is one thing I want to point out again:  the I only got 230 miles on that entire FULL tank whereas I normally would get 250 before reserve kicked in.  Thus, I'm inclined to believe there is a leak somewhere.  I check the oil and it is right where I put it before the trip. Here is one thing about the fuel: it was EZ MARK fuel (cheaper) and that could have been the problem, but I have my doubts about that.      

[Kurt]

I'm selling my 2007.  I hate to see her go but life will move forward I live in the Reno/Tahoe area. My cell number is in the ad   Thanks for looking...http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/4092680289.html Kurt