Faint hart and all that stuff...go for it BADGER!
Regards Geoff
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
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mrbadger
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Re: [mg-tabc] re:
Hello Jan,
If you read my notes very carefully, you will indeed, find some sage
advice, buried within, from one who has owned hundreds of old cars and
has driven many thousands of miles in them. That advice is:
Lighten up.
Enjoy your life, it's over too soon.
Laugh a little.
Enjoy your car for what it is, don't try to make it into something it
isn't.
Don't take your car too seriously.
And, above all, use it. It's the personal experiences that you collect
that make it all worth while.
I could entertain you (or bore you) by telling you what it's like to do
a clutch job on a busy city street - while feeding coins to the parking
meter. Or what it's like to change a half-shaft surrounded by hundreds
of miles of wilderness, on a remote Newfoundland dirt road near Labrador
with my tent slung over the back of the car because it's absolutely
pissing with rain and with only a small handful of basic tools and a
failing flashlight. Or what it's like to do engine jobs on the street,
one in particular involved replacing a broken crankshaft in a snowstorm.
Or what it's like to drive a TC hundreds of miles in the snow with NO
brakes whatever. I could give you detailed instructions on how to do
"IT" in an MG-TC, yes it IS possible, difficult, but possible. Wanna
know how to change a flat tire if you don't have a jack? Easy, put a
rock under the axle, dig a hole under the tire, change the wheel and
reverse the process. I could write a whole book about rocks, rocks are
nature's perfect tool but you've got to know how to pick exactly the
right sized rock, pebble, or boulder for the job at hand. If your TC
conks out far from home and you coast to the side of the road, your
approach to solving the issue should be this:
1). Locate the component causing the problem.
2). Hit it with a rock.
Now, to the inexperienced, that may seem like a very neanderthal
approach, however, I can personally assure you that this approach will
work very well on a whole plethora of common roadside ailments, for
example, loose battery terminals, sticky fuel pumps, sticky regulator
points, carb float needles, carb pistons, starter contacts, just to name
a few, this method is guaranteed to get you going again in the shortest
amount of time. But, my point is that it's simply no good telling you
how to do this and how to do that, I have no patience for armchair
soldiers, get out on the road and if you have a problem, don't reach for
your cell phone and call a tow truck, use your noodle and figure it out.
There is no substitute for experience and you can't gain experience by
reading, you can only gain it by doing. I hold very little hope for
someone who can't figure out how to adjust his headlight bulbs without a
book of instructions.
And finally, Jan, for anyone who absolutely has no sense of humor
whatever and simply cannot appreciate my tongue-firmly-planted-in-cheek
style, may I refer you to your own piece of advice which is reproduced
below;
......but if some T-ABC
JanCadik@aol.com wrote:
If you read my notes very carefully, you will indeed, find some sage
advice, buried within, from one who has owned hundreds of old cars and
has driven many thousands of miles in them. That advice is:
Lighten up.
Enjoy your life, it's over too soon.
Laugh a little.
Enjoy your car for what it is, don't try to make it into something it
isn't.
Don't take your car too seriously.
And, above all, use it. It's the personal experiences that you collect
that make it all worth while.
I could entertain you (or bore you) by telling you what it's like to do
a clutch job on a busy city street - while feeding coins to the parking
meter. Or what it's like to change a half-shaft surrounded by hundreds
of miles of wilderness, on a remote Newfoundland dirt road near Labrador
with my tent slung over the back of the car because it's absolutely
pissing with rain and with only a small handful of basic tools and a
failing flashlight. Or what it's like to do engine jobs on the street,
one in particular involved replacing a broken crankshaft in a snowstorm.
Or what it's like to drive a TC hundreds of miles in the snow with NO
brakes whatever. I could give you detailed instructions on how to do
"IT" in an MG-TC, yes it IS possible, difficult, but possible. Wanna
know how to change a flat tire if you don't have a jack? Easy, put a
rock under the axle, dig a hole under the tire, change the wheel and
reverse the process. I could write a whole book about rocks, rocks are
nature's perfect tool but you've got to know how to pick exactly the
right sized rock, pebble, or boulder for the job at hand. If your TC
conks out far from home and you coast to the side of the road, your
approach to solving the issue should be this:
1). Locate the component causing the problem.
2). Hit it with a rock.
Now, to the inexperienced, that may seem like a very neanderthal
approach, however, I can personally assure you that this approach will
work very well on a whole plethora of common roadside ailments, for
example, loose battery terminals, sticky fuel pumps, sticky regulator
points, carb float needles, carb pistons, starter contacts, just to name
a few, this method is guaranteed to get you going again in the shortest
amount of time. But, my point is that it's simply no good telling you
how to do this and how to do that, I have no patience for armchair
soldiers, get out on the road and if you have a problem, don't reach for
your cell phone and call a tow truck, use your noodle and figure it out.
There is no substitute for experience and you can't gain experience by
reading, you can only gain it by doing. I hold very little hope for
someone who can't figure out how to adjust his headlight bulbs without a
book of instructions.
And finally, Jan, for anyone who absolutely has no sense of humor
whatever and simply cannot appreciate my tongue-firmly-planted-in-cheek
style, may I refer you to your own piece of advice which is reproduced
below;
......but if some T-ABC
_______Thank you,________Badger__________________> messages are not what you are interested in, then skip/delete them, and let
> it go. .....
>
JanCadik@aol.com wrote:
> OK, the last one was amusing. However, I would like to write about the
> previous notes that you have sent to the T-ABC list. I do not want to waste
> your time if what you feel that your mission in life is to disrupt the T-ABC
> list (a pretty good one in my opinion). If that is the case, then stop
> reading right here. On the other hand, if you want to hear one guy's opinion
> on what he thinks about all this, and how one could deal with it, then read
> on.
>
> Based on your comments, I assume that you are quite knowledgeable about MGs,
> and it is obvious that you have your ideas how these car should be treated.
> My question/suggestion is: If you are really so knowledgeable, why don't you
> pass your knowledge on to the others? I would think that that would be more
> productive and more fun then provoking the list members to these silly
> discussions. I would hope that these discussions would be just waste of your
> time, and consequently, waste of time of the of the list members' as well.
>
> As you are well aware, not all list members agree with your approach to these
> cars (I am one of them), but there are others that do. Both groups (and
> those in between) may want to hear your view/solution on a given
> problem/issue. Contribute!!! That is what this list is about.
>
> I wish I could contribute to the list. I can't, I am a novice in the MG
> arena. I was once a pretty good mechanic (no bragging), but I was not doing
> that type of work for many years. I am retiring in a couple of weeks, and I
> think that I still have what it takes to restore this car that I always
> dreamed about (TC/8333). But that is not why I am writing this.
>
> I am sure that you are aware that there are as many views on the same issue,
> just about as many as there are people. Some views are more interesting then
> others. So what? Yes, we are different!!
>
> I cannot really tell you what to do and what not to do, but if some T-ABC
> messages are not what you are interested in, then skip/delete them, and let
> it go. However, if you are really interested in these cars, I guarantee you
> that if you read these messages long enough, you will find something of
> interest to you as well.
>
> I hope that you will at least think about this. Live and let the list live,
> read what you like and delete the rest, and write in only technical
> contribution
>
> Regards, Jan Cadik (straggling with a completely disassembled TC/8333 which I
> would like to restore it to as close to the original as I can afford. Why?
> Because I think it would be great to have a car in a condition that it rolled
> off the Abingdon's assembly line 51 years ago. Go figure/argue ...).
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Frank M.
- Posts: 4
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Re: [mg-tabc] re:
BRAVO!!! MrBadger, I for one can sit back and enjoy the tounge-in-cheek.
Being in the very frustrating process of a complete tub rebuild and
restoration on TC4847 there are many moments after many hours that
alignments are just not working out and I have to walk away from the
project. Only then do I realize your advise....Lighten up...Enjoy...and
laugh... Otherwise the next guy will be enjoying MY TC.
MrWhitetail
mrbadger wrote:
Being in the very frustrating process of a complete tub rebuild and
restoration on TC4847 there are many moments after many hours that
alignments are just not working out and I have to walk away from the
project. Only then do I realize your advise....Lighten up...Enjoy...and
laugh... Otherwise the next guy will be enjoying MY TC.
MrWhitetail
mrbadger wrote:
>
> Hello Jan,
> If you read my notes very carefully, you will indeed, find some sage
> advice, buried within, from one who has owned hundreds of old cars and
> has driven many thousands of miles in them. That advice is:
> Lighten up.
> Enjoy your life, it's over too soon.
> Laugh a little.
> Enjoy your car for what it is, don't try to make it into something it
> isn't.
> Don't take your car too seriously.
> And, above all, use it. It's the personal experiences that you collect
> that make it all worth while.
> I could entertain you (or bore you) by telling you what it's like to do
> a clutch job on a busy city street - while feeding coins to the parking
> meter. Or what it's like to change a half-shaft surrounded by hundreds
> of miles of wilderness, on a remote Newfoundland dirt road near Labrador
> with my tent slung over the back of the car because it's absolutely
> pissing with rain and with only a small handful of basic tools and a
> failing flashlight. Or what it's like to do engine jobs on the street,
> one in particular involved replacing a broken crankshaft in a snowstorm.
> Or what it's like to drive a TC hundreds of miles in the snow with NO
> brakes whatever. I could give you detailed instructions on how to do
> "IT" in an MG-TC, yes it IS possible, difficult, but possible. Wanna
> know how to change a flat tire if you don't have a jack? Easy, put a
> rock under the axle, dig a hole under the tire, change the wheel and
> reverse the process. I could write a whole book about rocks, rocks are
> nature's perfect tool but you've got to know how to pick exactly the
> right sized rock, pebble, or boulder for the job at hand. If your TC
> conks out far from home and you coast to the side of the road, your
> approach to solving the issue should be this:
> 1). Locate the component causing the problem.
> 2). Hit it with a rock.
> Now, to the inexperienced, that may seem like a very neanderthal
> approach, however, I can personally assure you that this approach will
> work very well on a whole plethora of common roadside ailments, for
> example, loose battery terminals, sticky fuel pumps, sticky regulator
> points, carb float needles, carb pistons, starter contacts, just to name
> a few, this method is guaranteed to get you going again in the shortest
> amount of time. But, my point is that it's simply no good telling you
> how to do this and how to do that, I have no patience for armchair
> soldiers, get out on the road and if you have a problem, don't reach for
> your cell phone and call a tow truck, use your noodle and figure it out.
> There is no substitute for experience and you can't gain experience by
> reading, you can only gain it by doing. I hold very little hope for
> someone who can't figure out how to adjust his headlight bulbs without a
> book of instructions.
> And finally, Jan, for anyone who absolutely has no sense of humor
> whatever and simply cannot appreciate my tongue-firmly-planted-in-cheek
> style, may I refer you to your own piece of advice which is reproduced
> below;
>
> ......but if some T-ABC
> > messages are not what you are interested in, then skip/delete them, and let
> > it go. .....
> >
> _______Thank you,________Badger__________________
>
> JanCadik@aol.com wrote:
> > OK, the last one was amusing. However, I would like to write about the
> > previous notes that you have sent to the T-ABC list. I do not want to waste
> > your time if what you feel that your mission in life is to disrupt the T-ABC
> > list (a pretty good one in my opinion). If that is the case, then stop
> > reading right here. On the other hand, if you want to hear one guy's opinion
> > on what he thinks about all this, and how one could deal with it, then read
> > on.
> >
> > Based on your comments, I assume that you are quite knowledgeable about MGs,
> > and it is obvious that you have your ideas how these car should be treated.
> > My question/suggestion is: If you are really so knowledgeable, why don't you
> > pass your knowledge on to the others? I would think that that would be more
> > productive and more fun then provoking the list members to these silly
> > discussions. I would hope that these discussions would be just waste of your
> > time, and consequently, waste of time of the of the list members' as well.
> >
> > As you are well aware, not all list members agree with your approach to these
> > cars (I am one of them), but there are others that do. Both groups (and
> > those in between) may want to hear your view/solution on a given
> > problem/issue. Contribute!!! That is what this list is about.
> >
> > I wish I could contribute to the list. I can't, I am a novice in the MG
> > arena. I was once a pretty good mechanic (no bragging), but I was not doing
> > that type of work for many years. I am retiring in a couple of weeks, and I
> > think that I still have what it takes to restore this car that I always
> > dreamed about (TC/8333). But that is not why I am writing this.
> >
> > I am sure that you are aware that there are as many views on the same issue,
> > just about as many as there are people. Some views are more interesting then
> > others. So what? Yes, we are different!!
> >
> > I cannot really tell you what to do and what not to do, but if some T-ABC
> > messages are not what you are interested in, then skip/delete them, and let
> > it go. However, if you are really interested in these cars, I guarantee you
> > that if you read these messages long enough, you will find something of
> > interest to you as well.
> >
> > I hope that you will at least think about this. Live and let the list live,
> > read what you like and delete the rest, and write in only technical
> > contribution
> >
> > Regards, Jan Cadik (straggling with a completely disassembled TC/8333 which I
> > would like to restore it to as close to the original as I can afford. Why?
> > Because I think it would be great to have a car in a condition that it rolled
> > off the Abingdon's assembly line 51 years ago. Go figure/argue ...).
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Harry Pyle
- Posts: 28
- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2000 7:49 pm
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
Can someone please explain what 'ebay' is and how it works ?
I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
and I need the room.
Please help me.
Thanks Harry
I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
and I need the room.
Please help me.
Thanks Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: mrbadger
To: MG-TABC
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: [mg-tabc] RE:
> Mrbadger would like to point out that he sells very many items on the
> ebay auction site including many items of interest to "T" owners but
> mrbadger does not feel compelled to post a notice in this space every
> time he may offer a new old stock distributor cap, engine, or trim part.
> Mrbadger felt that the Borrani knockoff caps which he is currently
> offering needed to be mentioned as they were consistent with the
> "thread" under discussion.
>
>
>
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mrbadger
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Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
Sure thing Harry,
Ebay is an on line auction site located at www.ebay.com.
Once you have registered, which is very easy, you can post items that
you wish to sell either with a reserve price or without a reserve, with
or without a photograph (photos highly recommended). The auctions can
run for up to 10 days (your choice) and the bidding audience is
worldwide and enormous, I have sold items on ebay to many remote parts
of the globe, such as Japan and Australia, and including many classic
cars!
It may take a little time and practice to learn how to navigate your way
around the various areas of ebay but it's not really all that difficult
and once you've got the hang of it, the rewards can be great! I've seen
everything from genuine Bugatti parts to many, many new and used MG-T
bits, not to mention whole cars.
Hope that helps. Derek (Badger) Durst
Harry Pyle wrote:
Ebay is an on line auction site located at www.ebay.com.
Once you have registered, which is very easy, you can post items that
you wish to sell either with a reserve price or without a reserve, with
or without a photograph (photos highly recommended). The auctions can
run for up to 10 days (your choice) and the bidding audience is
worldwide and enormous, I have sold items on ebay to many remote parts
of the globe, such as Japan and Australia, and including many classic
cars!
It may take a little time and practice to learn how to navigate your way
around the various areas of ebay but it's not really all that difficult
and once you've got the hang of it, the rewards can be great! I've seen
everything from genuine Bugatti parts to many, many new and used MG-T
bits, not to mention whole cars.
Hope that helps. Derek (Badger) Durst
Harry Pyle wrote:
>
> Can someone please explain what 'ebay' is and how it works ?
> I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
> and I need the room.
> Please help me.
>
> Thanks Harry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrbadger
> To: MG-TABC
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:06 PM
> Subject: [mg-tabc] RE:
>
> > Mrbadger would like to point out that he sells very many items on the
> > ebay auction site including many items of interest to "T" owners but
> > mrbadger does not feel compelled to post a notice in this space every
> > time he may offer a new old stock distributor cap, engine, or trim part.
> > Mrbadger felt that the Borrani knockoff caps which he is currently
> > offering needed to be mentioned as they were consistent with the
> > "thread" under discussion.
> >
> >
> >
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Walter Prechsl
- Posts: 30
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 1999 8:51 am
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
hi harry,
please send the parts list to me, i think the benefits should come to the
members of TABC.
i will post it on the gallery s classified section.
regards from germany
walter
please send the parts list to me, i think the benefits should come to the
members of TABC.
i will post it on the gallery s classified section.
regards from germany
walter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Pyle"
To: "MG-TABC" ; "mrbadger"
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
> Can someone please explain what 'ebay' is and how it works ?
> I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
> and I need the room.
> Please help me.
>
> Thanks Harry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrbadger
> To: MG-TABC
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:06 PM
> Subject: [mg-tabc] RE:
>
>
> > Mrbadger would like to point out that he sells very many items on the
> > ebay auction site including many items of interest to "T" owners but
> > mrbadger does not feel compelled to post a notice in this space every
> > time he may offer a new old stock distributor cap, engine, or trim part.
> > Mrbadger felt that the Borrani knockoff caps which he is currently
> > offering needed to be mentioned as they were consistent with the
> > "thread" under discussion.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Bill Harkins
- Posts: 22
- Joined: Fri Nov 26, 1999 1:31 pm
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
Can someone please explain what 'ebay' is and how it works ?
I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
and I need the room.
You will probably get many replies to this. Go to www.ebay.com to start.
There is very elaborate documentation on how to sell, how to set up an item
for sale, describing items in simple text for elaborate html format, etc.
There is new software from eBay now that you can download with excellent
instructions that allows items to be bulk listed (up to 1000!) I'm sure
many of the members would be interested in your parts. I have had very good
luck on eBay, and it is one of my favorite sites.
Bill Harkins
Fallbrook, CA
I have 'mountains' of TC and prewar bits that are surplus to my needs...
and I need the room.
You will probably get many replies to this. Go to www.ebay.com to start.
There is very elaborate documentation on how to sell, how to set up an item
for sale, describing items in simple text for elaborate html format, etc.
There is new software from eBay now that you can download with excellent
instructions that allows items to be bulk listed (up to 1000!) I'm sure
many of the members would be interested in your parts. I have had very good
luck on eBay, and it is one of my favorite sites.
Bill Harkins
Fallbrook, CA
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Bill Harkins
- Posts: 22
- Joined: Fri Nov 26, 1999 1:31 pm
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
please send the parts list to me, i think the benefits should come to the
members of TABC. i will post it on the gallery s classified section.
That is one option. Since Harry asked about eBay, I responded in that
regard. There is a much larger market on eBay than the 250 list members. A
majority of items I have sold went to non-list bidders.
Bill Harkins
members of TABC. i will post it on the gallery s classified section.
That is one option. Since Harry asked about eBay, I responded in that
regard. There is a much larger market on eBay than the 250 list members. A
majority of items I have sold went to non-list bidders.
Bill Harkins
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Austin R. Baer
- Posts: 48
- Joined: Wed Dec 22, 1999 9:36 am
Re: [mg-tabc] RE:
I think Bill is absolutely right... auctioning seems to be the fairest way
to get market price for bits whose value is otherwise indeterminate.
However, I see nothing wrong with letting people on our list know 1) that an
auction site has some parts of interest, 2) which auction site has them, and
2) what those parts are. Bill has done exactly that, as have others, and I
see it as a valuable service to the rest of us. Of all the "threads" in
which we engage, parts and the technology to use them is extremely useful to
us all. Such notices can be represented by a one-time posting that consumes
little space, especially if additional exchanges of the details take place
off-list.
Austin
From Bill Harkins:
.....A majority of items I have sold went to non-list bidders.
to get market price for bits whose value is otherwise indeterminate.
However, I see nothing wrong with letting people on our list know 1) that an
auction site has some parts of interest, 2) which auction site has them, and
2) what those parts are. Bill has done exactly that, as have others, and I
see it as a valuable service to the rest of us. Of all the "threads" in
which we engage, parts and the technology to use them is extremely useful to
us all. Such notices can be represented by a one-time posting that consumes
little space, especially if additional exchanges of the details take place
off-list.
Austin
From Bill Harkins:
.....A majority of items I have sold went to non-list bidders.
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