Re: Nails (and lots of them)

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Mark McCombs
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Nails (and lots of them)

Post by Mark McCombs » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:06 pm

Finally doing some assembly work after ages of pre-fitting, and it looks to me like I have around 26 to 28 nails to be installed in the rear wheel wells. It seems like the factory started off with one every inch for the first several inches, then switched to around every two inches, with several extra back to 1" apart (or closer) at the tighter radius areas towards the front and back of the main top arch.
This would not include the fewer number ( I count 18-20) that hold the rear quarters to this same inside arch. It just seems like alot of nails; Just checking after all this wood is finished..
Regards
Mark TC8126
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Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 2243


Matching numbers.
My TC has chassis 6316, engine XPAG 7000 and a body plate saying BODY TYPE
B280 & BODY No 6091 A 32103.
I am interested hearing from others who have original numbers - body in
particular.
Regards,
Bert Dive.

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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Tickler pins
From: Allan Chalmers
2. RE: Re:colortune
From: "fnitz"
3. Re: Re:colortune
From: LKe1021587@aol.com
4. AW: AW: Re:colortune
From: "Paroor"
5. Re: 37 MGTA for sell
From: Keith N Black
6. Matching numbers
From: FDShade@aol.com
7. FW: TC Carb Bolts
From: "Roger Furneaux"
8.
From: "John Patterson"
9. Re:
From: joecurto@aol.com
10. Re: Re:colortune
From: joecurto@aol.com


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Allan Chalmers
Subject: Tickler pins

Madhu's problems with floats prompts me to remind folks that the tickler
pins on the bowl lids are a source of an inferno if a float sinks - gas will
come pouring out around the pin, possibly igniting. Phil Marino had this
occur several years ago to his TC and it cost him dearly to re-restore his
engine compartment.

Several ways to fix the problem including o-rings around the tickler pin -
The best solution - to sealing the holes off with epoxy, or a wood dowel, or
whatever.

Allan Chalmers


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:03:51 -0700
From: "fnitz"
Subject: RE: Re:colortune

Madhu,
Skip Kelsey at Shadetree motors has the Grosse Jets in stock.
http://www.shadetreemotors.com
Regards,
Fred


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From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Paroor
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:35 PM
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com; Peter Roberts; 1939mgtb; Gene Wescott;
taterry@pacbell.net; Clive Sherriff; Ian Thomson; boltonmg@comcast.net
Subject: AW: [mg-tabc] Re:colortune

Dear All,
I am getting closer to the point. The float is not defect. In TC
0448 the two flat chamber lids are different. The rear one got a pin to
press down the float and got a solid liver operating the float valve. The
front one do not have this pin and the liver operating the float looks
entirely different. I am sure this front problem carburettor was fiddled by
PO several times.

I tried to get a new grosser Jet. But it is not readily available.
Yesterday I run the engine for a short while after replacing the float
valve. Now the both float chamber is marinating almost the same fuel level.
So I will check the fuel level today morning.

As Terry advised I checked the float liver, it is getting stuck. The
liver
had to have a little tab restricting the liver going too far down. This is
not set proper. If the float is empty the liver goes down too much letting
the needle slip out. So it get stuck. So the flooding the carburettor is the
result.

The car is starting at the very fist turn. So I did not fiddle with
the
ignition timing. I thought it is better do set it proper after fixing the
carburettors and slow running. I also do not trust the new Champion spark
plugs.

Thank you all once again.

Madhu






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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:13:10 EDT
From: LKe1021587@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:colortune

Madhu,

Click on the following link to obtain Skip Burns article on tuning carbs.
It's under tune up Part 1, I believe.
http://chicagolandmgclub.com/techtips/mgt/mgttips.html

Mike Keeffe
TC 1307
Azusa, CA


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:03:29 +0200
From: "Paroor"
Subject: AW: AW: Re:colortune

Hi Terry,
Your mail came few hours late. I went to the local shop today
afternoon, got an exchange lid with tickler so that both look alike. TC 448
had two lids with connections on the left side. I never noticed it. Now I
got a right connection to for the front carburettor with pre set valve. I
fixed the lid to the carburettor and and tuned the switch and pulled the
starter. Like a wonder all the four cylinders are working with the same
power. The trouble was only with the sticking float valve. I also got new
over flow pipes. But as you said it is of no use combining this pipe with
tickler.

I will keep the ticklers at present but may fill the bottom with epoxy`d
soon. The oil sump leak is also fixed. Now I can do all the fine tuning of
engine and finish the wiring.

Thank God. Thanks to all members who came with an advise.

Madhu

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Von: Terry Sanders [mailto:taterry@pacbell.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. September 2005 15:40
An: Paroor
Betreff: Re: AW: [mg-tabc] Re:colortune


Madhu, another caution, get rid of that tickler pin on the one float
chamber. Find another one like the one with no tickler. The problem is
that if the float bowl floods, the petrol will flow out of the tickler and
not the overflow perhaps causing a fire. We lost one TC to this cause. The
tickler can also be epoxy'd shut or a very small oring added to it to make
sure petrol does not flow up through the tickler. Having a tickler is not
worth the danger of a fire.
Terry



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:40:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith N Black
Subject: Re: 37 MGTA for sell


I have a basket case 37 TA for sale, car is complete. I restored the car 6
years ago (see pic of car in photo section) then lost # 3 rod bearing,
pulled the engine, had block repaired (should have done that first time
around) and car has sat since. Those interested please call 972-380-4168 or
email..........................Keith Black


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 23:22:05 EDT
From: FDShade@aol.com
Subject: Matching numbers

I got a call today from Fred Troyan (email FPTroyan@aol.com) who was
unaware
of our T-ABC program. He told me that he owns TC 6488, a "best of show
car"
and "one of only three known to have matching numbers" (I think he was
referring to engine and chassis numbers). Has anyone heard of the three
cars
with engine and chassis numbers that match?

Jim Shade, West Covina CA

PS I invited Fred to join us, but haven't heard from him yet.


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:11:59 +0100
From: "Roger Furneaux"
Subject: FW: TC Carb Bolts

hi Larry - if you want the proper head, I can make them for you. As Dave
Edgar says, you can use standard modern metrics, but the larger heads make
life a little more difficult. Or you can do as I do, and use 3/8" BSF, they
are after all only clamping two flanges together.

ocTagonally

TCRoger

PS hurricane Katrina looks bad enough on TV, so cannot imagine what its like
to be there, and lose everything. Now the death toll looks likely to be
several thousand...

Dave Edgar wrote:
On the TABC web technology web site is a listing of all engine bolts used.
http://mg-tabc.org/techn-up/fasteners.htm

According to that the Carb to manifold bolt is:
10 - 1.5MM 3/4" in length, 5/16W bolt head size
Original part number was LA7153 and a Moss number of 320-510

If you don't mind not having a Whitworth size head on it you can go to your
local hardware or automotive supply store for one I would think.

Larry Leclerc asked:
>> What pray tell is the right size for the bolt which attaches the TC carb
> To the inlet Manifold. I am missing two and the markings on the two I have
> indicate British origin. However, They seem to be very close to 10 x
1.50mm.
> Moss wants $8.00 ea, so they must be pretty weird. Thanks


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 09:53:31 -0400
From: "John Patterson"
Subject:

BlankHi TC fans,
I have a problem with the starter switch on the TC and I understand there is
a contact replacement
kit available. They do not list it as being available in the Moss catalog,
they do list a
replacement switch for $50, but would like to repair the original if
possible. Does anyone on the
list repair these?
John Patterson, TC 7025, Frankfort, MI.





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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 09:59:37 EDT
From: joecurto@aol.com
Subject: Re:

I believe Abingdon Spares had a rebuild kit for the TC starter switch which
includes the contact and insulators on the starter as well as on the switch
itself.

Joe


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 10:10:31 EDT
From: joecurto@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:colortune

There are 2 different types of T2 ( T series size) float bowl
covers
tickler pins not withstanding, AUD 2283 and AUD 2284 are later covers which
use a float fork made out of stainless steel and has the pivots at the float
hinge pin sort of bent and shaped like the tines of a fork. All the other
covers
AUC 1160, 1161, 4260, 4261 , etc., use a float fork which the pivot on the
fork is bent steel with a hole drilled into it. These covers are
interchangeable
as a unit you cannot just change forks. The difference is the height of the
pedestals that the fork attaches to.
Regarding Float needles I prefer using a AUD 9585 float needle this is a
viton tipped needle with a solid brass body, I have the least amount of
troubles
with them.

Joe Curto


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Re: Nails (and lots of them)

Post by joecurto@aol.com » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:51 am

Hey Mark I was at the Morgan Factory years ago and watched the
carpenter (coach builder) drill 4 holes for mounting something under the dash and he
was drilling them by hand and sort of randomly spacing them, I had commented
that in years to come a restorer would be measuring the spacing to the 1/16 of
an inch and they would be questioning the reasoning of the random spacing. He
thought I was pulling his leg.

Joe


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Mark McCombs
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Re: Nails (and lots of them)

Post by Mark McCombs » Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:36 am

Joe-
As I tell the Mrs, it beats drinking. Well, sometimes.
Regards
Mark TC8126
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From: JoeCurto@aol.com
To: tc8126@core.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Nails (and lots of them)


Hey Mark I was at the Morgan Factory years ago and watched the carpenter (coach builder) drill 4 holes for mounting something under the dash and he was drilling them by hand and sort of randomly spacing them, I had commented that in years to come a restorer would be measuring the spacing to the 1/16 of an inch and they would be questioning the reasoning of the random spacing. He thought I was pulling his leg.

Joe

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