Fabric question

[ross macpherson]

O Sages of the List, TC 3528 (Persephone) requires a new toneau and, in the not TOO distant future, a new hood and side curtains. She is not a trailer queen and is rather rough around the edges so concours quality is not an issue. What is the conventional wisdom on fabrics and vendors. I've toyed with the idea of having the existing bits (all vinyl) duplicated by a local upholstery specialist I've dealt with in the past. I await the list's collected wisdom. Ross In New Westminster. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/05

[Charles Hill]

Ross, If you have a local upholstery guy you trust, go for it. The fit-all mail order stuff doesn't fit anything. And you will still need to try and fit it and install all the snaps.. Vinyl would be serviceable but if its not too much more expensive, try the canvas. Regards, Charles Hill Ross MacPherson wrote:

>O Sages of the List, > >TC 3528 (Persephone) requires a new toneau and, in the not TOO distant >future, a new hood and side curtains. She is not a trailer queen and is >rather rough around the edges so concours quality is not an issue. What is >the conventional wisdom on fabrics and vendors. > >I've toyed with the idea of having the existing bits (all vinyl) duplicated >by a local upholstery specialist I've dealt with in the past. > >I await the list's collected wisdom. > >Ross >In New Westminster. >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/05 > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

[tony goodall]

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> From: tony goodall tonygoodall@blueyonder.co.uk> > Date: 25 June 2005 11:27:28 BST > To: Charles Hill candahill@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fabric question > > Ross > I agree with Charles that canvas is preferable to vinyl (I've had > both) But If I were about to fit a new hood I would go for Wigan cloth > rather than double duck, as the latter can be too thick and cause a > few problems when folded down. > I used an off the shelf hood and screens from Don Trimming Co. here in > the UK ( you might need to specify the rear window size) > and obtained a good fit. The side screens needed a bit of fettling on > the old hand driven sewing machine. > > With respect to tonneau covers I have opted for double duck for the > half tonneau, which I am happy with (made it myself) and > Vinyl for the full tonneau which I rarely use. The latter was not > originally supplied with the car and vinyl was inclined to be used for > aftermarket > covers but I would say take your pick, but bear in mind that it's a > large piece of fabric and vinyl wont shrink. canvas might. > > A local trimmer is ideal if you can find one at a reasonable price, > and you will be able to see and select your fabrics. > > Tony > > TC9825 > > > On 25 Jun 2005, at 05:29, Charles Hill wrote: > >> Ross, >> >> If you have a local upholstery guy you trust, go for it. The fit-all >> mail order stuff doesn't fit anything. And you will still need to try >> and fit it and install all the snaps.. Vinyl would be serviceable but >> if its not too much more expensive, try the canvas. >> >> Regards, >> Charles Hill >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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[Liz Harris]

Hi Ross, I have just this morning picked up a new tonneau AND hood for TC 2259...( no I have`nt just won the lottery..).... from Brown & Gammons here in the UK. The items on the car at the moment seem to be of a heavy canvas material and I know the car went to the USA for a number of years and I think they were possibly made there. I did ask a local upholsterer what the chances were of getting similar material but his advice was to go for a `Double Duck` off-the-shelf replacement on the grounds of the cost of having to buy a minimum amount of canvas and the `modern` stuff would probably do the job better. It`s your car and of course you can do what you wish but I would`nt replace your vinyl with more of the same....I don`t think it was around when your car was made....or was it?...no doubt there will be someone on the list who knows about these things. Just for the record the two items cost 425.75....plus 74.51 tax !!!!!!... I have`nt even taken them out of the bag yet so they could be total c--p....watch this space... All the best. Tweed TC 2259. Cambridge UK. Ross MacPherson arm@telus.net> wrote: O Sages of the List, TC 3528 (Persephone) requires a new toneau and, in the not TOO distant future, a new hood and side curtains. She is not a trailer queen and is rather rough around the edges so concours quality is not an issue. What is the conventional wisdom on fabrics and vendors. I've toyed with the idea of having the existing bits (all vinyl) duplicated by a local upholstery specialist I've dealt with in the past. I await the list's collected wisdom. Ross In New Westminster. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/05 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick Waters]

When I bought my TC, back in 1987, it came with a brand new hood and a brand-new full tonneau. They were in the box, made by Robbins in Santa Monica in 1982, according to the markings on the rear window. They seem to be made of tan "Stayfast". Two years ago, I got tired of getting wet, so my neighbour and I installed the hood. Bought a new piece of wood for the windscreen header, and just followed the instrutions I got off the technical site here on TABC Register. I am well-pleased with the hood (tonneau's still in the box. It is a single layer, seems waterproof, and was easy to install. It looks good, save for the fact that the rear window is too large. The car also came with Robbins side screen covers, which I will install whenever I get time. They did not have provision for stiffening the signal flap area, so I took the stiffening out of my old screens, and had a local upholstery shop duplicate the stiffening in the new sidescreens. Just thought some of you might be interested, as I believe you can still get the hood, etc. from Robbins. -Rick, TC 7881 Liz Harris lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi Ross, I have just this morning picked up a new tonneau AND hood for TC 2259...( no I have`nt just won the lottery..).... from Brown & Gammons here in the UK. The items on the car at the moment seem to be of a heavy canvas material and I know the car went to the USA for a number of years and I think they were possibly made there. I did ask a local upholsterer what the chances were of getting similar material but his advice was to go for a `Double Duck` off-the-shelf replacement on the grounds of the cost of having to buy a minimum amount of canvas and the `modern` stuff would probably do the job better. It`s your car and of course you can do what you wish but I would`nt replace your vinyl with more of the same....I don`t think it was around when your car was made....or was it?...no doubt there will be someone on the list who knows about these things. Just for the record the two items cost 425.75....plus 74.51 tax !!!!!!... I have`nt even taken them out of the bag yet so they could be total c--p....watch this space... All the best. Tweed TC 2259. Cambridge UK. Ross MacPherson wrote: O Sages of the List, TC 3528 (Persephone) requires a new toneau and, in the not TOO distant future, a new hood and side curtains. She is not a trailer queen and is rather rough around the edges so concours quality is not an issue. What is the conventional wisdom on fabrics and vendors. I've toyed with the idea of having the existing bits (all vinyl) duplicated by a local upholstery specialist I've dealt with in the past. I await the list's collected wisdom. Ross In New Westminster. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/05 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -Rick Waters __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Liz Harris]

Tony, me again...what is Wigan cloth ? .... Tweed..... tony goodall tonygoodall@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: Begin forwarded message:

> From: tony goodall > Date: 25 June 2005 11:27:28 BST > To: Charles Hill > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fabric question > > Ross > I agree with Charles that canvas is preferable to vinyl (I've had > both) But If I were about to fit a new hood I would go for Wigan cloth > rather than double duck, as the latter can be too thick and cause a > few problems when folded down. > I used an off the shelf hood and screens from Don Trimming Co. here in > the UK ( you might need to specify the rear window size) > and obtained a good fit. The side screens needed a bit of fettling on > the old hand driven sewing machine. > > With respect to tonneau covers I have opted for double duck for the > half tonneau, which I am happy with (made it myself) and > Vinyl for the full tonneau which I rarely use. The latter was not > originally supplied with the car and vinyl was inclined to be used for > aftermarket > covers but I would say take your pick, but bear in mind that it's a > large piece of fabric and vinyl wont shrink. canvas might. > > A local trimmer is ideal if you can find one at a reasonable price, > and you will be able to see and select your fabrics. > > Tony > > TC9825 > > > On 25 Jun 2005, at 05:29, Charles Hill wrote: > >> Ross, >> >> If you have a local upholstery guy you trust, go for it. The fit-all >> mail order stuff doesn't fit anything. And you will still need to try >> and fit it and install all the snaps.. Vinyl would be serviceable but >> if its not too much more expensive, try the canvas. >> >> Regards, >> Charles Hill >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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[David Lodge]

Tweed, Cloth woven under Wigan pier by George Orwell! Regards, David Lodge ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----- From: "Liz Harris" lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> To: "tony goodall" tonygoodall@blueyonder.co.uk>,mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Fabric question Date: 25.6.2005 - 22:37:04

> Tony, me again...what is Wigan cloth ? .... > > Tweed..... > > tony goodall tonygoodall@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: tony goodall > > Date: 25 June 2005 11:27:28 BST > > To: Charles Hill > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fabric question > > > > Ross > > I agree with Charles that canvas is preferable to > > vinyl (I've had > > both) But If I were about to fit a new hood I would > > go for Wigan cloth > > rather than double duck, as the latter can be too > > thick and cause a > > few problems when folded down. > > I used an off the shelf hood and screens from Don > > Trimming Co. here in > > the UK ( you might need to specify the rear window > > size) > > and obtained a good fit. The side screens needed a > > bit of fettling on > > the old hand driven sewing machine. > > > > With respect to tonneau covers I have opted for > > double duck for the > > half tonneau, which I am happy with (made it myself) > > and > > Vinyl for the full tonneau which I rarely use. The > > latter was not > > originally supplied with the car and vinyl was > > inclined to be used for > > aftermarket > > covers but I would say take your pick, but bear in > > mind that it's a > > large piece of fabric and vinyl wont shrink. canvas > > might. > > > > A local trimmer is ideal if you can find one at a > > reasonable price, > > and you will be able to see and select your fabrics. > > > > Tony > > > > TC9825 > > > > > > On 25 Jun 2005, at 05:29, Charles Hill wrote: > > > >> Ross, > >> > >> If you have a local upholstery guy you trust, go for > >> it. The fit-all > >> mail order stuff doesn't fit anything. And you will > >> still need to try > >> and fit it and install all the snaps.. Vinyl would > >> be serviceable but > >> if its not too much more expensive, try the canvas. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Charles Hill > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling > worldwide with voicemail > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Narfman96 - Narfland Studio]

I have a full tonneau cover in vinyl and it shrinks in cool weather, making it difficult to close even in our mile Florida winters. Plus, it tore along the seams just behind the seat. I won't go with vinyl again, even though its the most weatherproof. Tom Gill Spring Hill, FL

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hill" candahill@worldnet.att.net> To: "MG-TABC Mail List" Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups.Com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fabric question > Ross, > > If you have a local upholstery guy you trust, go for it. The fit-all > mail order stuff doesn't fit anything. And you will still need to try > and fit it and install all the snaps.. Vinyl would be serviceable but > if its not too much more expensive, try the canvas. > > Regards, > Charles Hill > > Ross MacPherson wrote: > >>O Sages of the List, >> >>TC 3528 (Persephone) requires a new toneau and, in the not TOO distant >>future, a new hood and side curtains. She is not a trailer queen and is >>rather rough around the edges so concours quality is not an issue. What >>is >>the conventional wisdom on fabrics and vendors. >> >>I've toyed with the idea of having the existing bits (all vinyl) >>duplicated >>by a local upholstery specialist I've dealt with in the past. >> >>I await the list's collected wisdom. >> >>Ross >>In New Westminster. >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 6/23/05 >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[tony goodall]

> > > On 25 Jun 2005, at 23:02, David Lodge wrote: > >> Tweed, >> >> Cloth woven under Wigan pier by George Orwell! >> >> Regards, David Lodge >> >> On 26 Jun 2005, at 01:12, tony goodall wrote: > Not that far off! In fact the fabric was named after the town in which > it was made, Wigan,one of the cotton weaving towns of Lancashire > > Cheers > Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >

[ROSS TAYLOR]

Just for the record I took TC4284 for a run yesterday ( some 100 miles) with the hood and side curtains fitted, the first time they have been on the car for many years, I have a receipt from A C Winmill of Mitcham Surry for the sum of 100 pounds for supply and postage for the hood and sidescreens the hood was 40 Quid and the curtains 38 Quid the rest postage, the date is 9th Feb 1982,How times have changed, By the way they are still in A1 condition after 23 years. Ross in Tea Gardens Down Under

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