looking for bearing info

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looking for bearing info

Post by Jorolibb@aol.com » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:02 pm

Hey folks,
I'm looking for the SKF bearing numbers for the tapered roller bearing for the front axle for TCs. I know the sizes of the standard ball bearings are 25mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the inner bearing and 20mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the outer bearing. Also could someone provide the number for the grease seal (CR or National)?
Thanks,
John Libbert
Milford, OH
TC 2138

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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by tc8438exu » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:31 pm

[b]Hi John,[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Not SKF but a bearing supply house can cross reference or perhaps others can supply SKF #s.[/b] [b][/b]  Inner 2 Ball FAG #6205 52 25 15       Tapered Roller FAG #30205A 52 25 15       Outer 2 Ball FAG #6304 52 20 15       Tapered Roller FAG #30304A 52 20 15         Front Hub Grease Seal   Hub 2   Chicago Rawhide 14938 [b][/b]  [b][/b]  [b]Hope this helps.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Corky[/b] [b][/b]  [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com">'jorolibb@aol.com' Jorolibb@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, October 2, 2017 05:02 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   Hey folks,   I'm looking for the SKF bearing numbers for the tapered roller bearing for the front axle for TCs. I know the sizes of the standard ball bearings are 25mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the inner bearing and 20mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the outer bearing. Also could someone provide the number for the grease seal (CR or National)?   Thanks,   John Libbert Milford, OH TC 2138 [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1522511809&sig=ibc6LoCzASy78hOvs5vzUg--~D[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

Duncan
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Duncan » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:35 pm

Tapered bearings 30304 and 30205. Be sure the bearings come with the races. The stock spindle spacer (bearing spacer) piece will be too short with the tapered bearings. Rumors that the proper (slightly longer) spacer for use with the tapered bearings is available somewhere. Duncan- CA --------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/2/17, corkandpris@charter.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info To: "jorolibb@aol.com" Jorolibb@aol.com>, mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 4:20 PM Hi John, Not SKF but a bearing supply house can cross reference or perhaps others can supply SKF #s. Inner2BallFAG #6205522515 Tapered RollerFAG #30205A522515 Outer2BallFAG #6304522015 Tapered RollerFAG #30304A522015 Front Hub Grease Seal Hub2 Chicago Rawhide 14938 Hope this helps. Corky From: 'jorolibb@aol.com' Jorolibb@aol.com [mg-tabc] Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 05:02 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info Hey folks, I'm looking for the SKF bearing numbers for the tapered roller bearing for the front axle for TCs. I know the sizes of the standard ball bearings are 25mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the inner bearing and 20mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the outer bearing. Also could someone provide the number for the grease seal (CR or National)? Thanks, John Libbert Milford, OH TC 2138 Virus-free. www.avast.com Posted by: corkandpris@charter.net> Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. Visit Your Group Privacy Unsubscribe Terms of Use .

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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Tweed » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:10 am

The stock spacer is too short on it's own when used with taper roller bearings ... not by much, but it doesn't have to be to lock it solid.   The correct running clearance is achieved by adding shims.  I've not heard of a  'one size fits all' spacer  for taper rollers and not sure that would work anyway.    The shims are readily available from either Roger Furneaux in the UK or Doug Pelton in the USA .... no doubt there are other suppliers. To make the job of setting up easier, I used a dummy spindle with slightly undersize journals and did it on the bench. Then it's just a case of transferring that 'stack' onto the car.  I also made up slightly thicker inner spacers for the double lip seal to run on.  I think the stock size is 1/4", 6.35mm, and I increased that to 5/16", 8mm.         TweedTC 0632Cambridge UK        [b]From:[/b] "Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:35 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   Tapered bearings 30304 and 30205. Be sure the bearings come with the races. The stock spindle spacer (bearing spacer) piece will be too short with the tapered bearings. Rumors that the proper (slightly longer) spacer for use with the tapered bearings is available somewhere. Duncan- CA --------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/2/17, corkandpris@charter.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info To: "jorolibb@aol.com" Jorolibb@aol.com>, mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 4:20 PM   Hi John,   Not SKF but a bearing supply house can cross reference or perhaps others can supply SKF #s.   Inner2BallFAG #6205522515   Tapered RollerFAG #30205A522515   Outer2BallFAG #6304522015   Tapered RollerFAG #30304A522015      Front Hub Grease Seal   Hub2 Chicago Rawhide 14938     Hope this helps.   Corky   From: 'jorolibb@aol.com' Jorolibb@aol.com [mg-tabc] Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 05:02 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   Hey folks,   I'm looking for the SKF bearing numbers for the tapered roller bearing for the front axle for TCs. I know the sizes of the standard ball bearings are 25mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the inner bearing and 20mm ID X 52mm OD X 15mm wide for the outer bearing. Also could someone provide the number for the grease seal (CR or National)?   Thanks,   John Libbert Milford, OH TC 2138 Virus-free. www.avast.com Posted by: corkandpris@charter.net> Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. Visit Your Group Privacy Unsubscribe Terms of Use .
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Stephen D Stierman » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:13 am

The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around.  It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased.
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Tweed
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Tweed » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:27 am

That's true Steve, it's not rocket science to make a few shims .... but at the few pence they cost my time is worth more. Tweed   [b]From:[/b] "Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 11:13 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around.  It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased.Steve TC2911                           .    . #ygrps-yiv-313437622 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494 -- #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-313437622 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-313437622 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494 #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-313437622yiv5218805494hd { 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Roger Furneaux
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Roger Furneaux » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:57 am

Not so easy Duncan! The offset of the taper roller inner & outer races is 1.25mm, so you need at least 2.5mm worth of shims (funnily enough, it usually needs more than the theoretical 2.5mm). I stock 2mm & 0.5mm plus a selection of thin ones, plus the bearings, spacers and inner seal rings. oc[b]T[/b]agonally Roger
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around. It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased.Steve TC2911 . .

e_callo
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by e_callo » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:01 am

I recommend you trial fit everything first. I have purchased shims that would not fit without opening up the center a little and bearings that were to tight on the spindle making it hard to take off to add or subtract shims.  Just make sure everything will fit before greasing the bearings, etc.   Ed   In a message dated 10/3/2017 7:27:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:
[color=#000000]  That's true Steve, it's not rocket science to make a few shims .... but at the few pence they cost my time is worth more. Tweed   [b]From:[/b] "Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 11:13 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info
  The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around.  It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased. Steve TC2911 [/color]                           .    .


Stephen D Stierman
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Stephen D Stierman » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:06 am

 I prefer to make my own, as like most of us, I am retired and need to fill my hours with productive endeavors.  Besides what else could I do with those empty beer cans in my recycle bin?Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] Tweed lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, October 3, 2017 7:27 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info That's true Steve, it's not rocket science to make a few shims .... but at the few pence they cost my time is worth more. Tweed   [b]From:[/b] "Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 11:13 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around.  It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased.Steve TC2911                           .    . #ygrps-yiv-950319461 #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152 -- #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-950319461 #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152 #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-950319461 #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152 #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-950319461yiv7367210152hd { 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Tweed
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Re: looking for bearing info

Post by Tweed » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:52 am

Ha, with all those beer cans it looks as though you manage to fill your time quite nicely :)    T.   From: "Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: Tweed lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk>; Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 15:06 Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info    I prefer to make my own, as like most of us, I am retired and need to fill my hours with productive endeavors.  Besides what else could I do with those empty beer cans in my recycle bin?Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] Tweed lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, October 3, 2017 7:27 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info That's true Steve, it's not rocket science to make a few shims .... but at the few pence they cost my time is worth more. Tweed   [b]From:[/b] "Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Duncan morelists@yahoo.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 11:13 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] looking for bearing info   The shims are easily made up at home using whatever thin material you have around.  It is a trial and error process and no special stock needs to be purchased.Steve TC2911                           .    . #ygrps-yiv-1595560785 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278 -- #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #ygrps-yiv-1595560785 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrps-yiv-1595560785 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278 #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-1595560785yiv3772375278hd { 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