Re: Digest Number 927

[Benson]

----- Original Message ----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:18 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 927 > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Commercial - Tube shock conversion kit. > From: David Lodge wargs@Mac.com> > 2. Chuck Brown > From: bputnam@powercom.net > 3. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > 4. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > 5. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > 6. > From: "John Patterson" jwp_mgtc@chartermi.net> > 7. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com > 8. Re: TC Oil filter adapter > From: candahill@worldnet.att.net > 9. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > 10. spin off oil filter adapter > From: David & Joyce Edgar djedgar@pacbell.net> > 11. Re: Oil Lines > From: AJChalmers@aol.com > 12. Re: TC Oil filter adapter > From: AJChalmers@aol.com > 13. Handy engine building web site > From: taterry@aol.com > 14. Re: > From: kwcp kwcp@optonline.net> > 15. RE: > From: "Robert Grunau" cgrunau@pathcom.com> > 16. Re: Twin Cam - Jerry Goguen > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > 17. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > 18. Re: Handy engine building web site > From: "R. Zwart" zwart@earthlink.net> > 19. Re: Digest Number 921 > From: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk> > 20. Re: Digest Number 921 > From: "Murray Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > 21. EXU front bumper complete > From: "Mark McCombs" rudge@core.com> > 22. Oil Adaptor Kit by Bob G. > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com > 23. Compression vs Cylinder Head Depth > From: FIGSMG@cs.com > 24. Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > From: David Lodge wargs@Mac.com> > 25. Re: Compression vs Cylinder Head Depth > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:34:14 -0700 > From: David Lodge wargs@Mac.com> > Subject: Re: Commercial - Tube shock conversion kit. > > Mark, > Terrific idea! I'll pass on this one but if something comes up that I really > need..................! > David Lodge > > > > > OK, Now there is a really good idea. A silent auction amoung just us, say > > collect bids until no more have come in for a certain length of time (that > > way no one gets sniped with seconds left...) and we are dealing amongst our > > group, somewhat known and fairly trustworthy to actually go thru with the > > transactions. > > Any other thoughts on this? > > Regards from Ohio- > > Mark TC8126 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chip Hellie" chiphelli@yahoo.com> > > To: "Gene Gillam" anngene@bellsouth.net>; "'Ray'" Spook01@comcast.net>; > > "'mgtabc'" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:18 PM > > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Commercial - Tube shock conversion kit. > > > > > >> Gene, > >> I have a pair of front tube shock brackets for T cars. > >> > >> If anyone wants them, maybe we can have a "MG LIST" > >> auction. Bidding starts at $.50 > >> > >> Good bidding! > >> > >> Chip Hellie > >> --- Gene Gillam anngene@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >>> Darn Ray, > >>> I was hoping to get it cheap. > >>> Gene > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Ray [mailto:Spook01@comcast.net] > >>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 6:34 PM > >>> To: mgtabc > >>> Subject: [mg-tabc] Commercial - Tube shock > >>> conversion kit. > >>> > >>> > >>> HI guys, > >>> > >>> Sorry to bomb you all but if anyone wants a tube > >>> shock conversion kit > >>> for the front of the MGTA TB or TC, I have a set on > >>> e-bay. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Ray > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system > >>> (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>> Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release > >>> Date: 7/1/2002 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > >> http://health.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:02:26 -0500 > From: bputnam@powercom.net > Subject: Chuck Brown > > Sam, > > Please let Chuck know about the Vintage Sports Car Drivers Association (VSCDA). > Chuck sounds like the kind of guy we'd love to have racing with us. We run stock > T's to slightly modified cars (blowers and cycle fenders) on tracks in the Midwest US > including Road America, Blackhawk Farms, Gingerman, and IRP. Chuck can bring > up VSCDA at www. vscda.org , or just have him drop me an e mail to chat about > racing. It's a very friendly group dedicated to having fun. No trophies, just a pat on > the back from your compatriots. > > Thanks, > > Bill Putnam > Madison, WI USA > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:33:42 -0700 > > From: "Sam Suklis" ssp15@attbi.com> > > Subject: Re: Re: Bore VS Capacity > > > > Skip: I forwarded this to my friend Chuck Brown in Wisconsin, who bought > > his TC new in 1948 (second one sold in Oregon) Chuck was one of the pioneer > > racers/engineers of TC's back in the fifties, and was racing it in SCCA > > events back then, and still does, in vintage races... > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:26:39 -0400 > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com> > . > Many of our members perhaps don't know that Jerry was an accomplished > symphony trumpetist and played second chair with the "Pops" under the great > conductor: Arthur Fiedler > > Thom Collins > > Thom, just to set the record straight. > Jerry was primarily second trumpet for the Boston Symphony Orchestra but > was required to put in some time with the Boston Pops from time to time. > Badger > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:38:29 -0400 > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com> > > . > > Many of our members perhaps don't know that Jerry was an accomplished > symphony trumpetist and played second chair with the "Pops" under the great > conductor: Arthur Fiedler > > Thom Collins > > Thom, just to set the record straight. > Jerry was primarily second trumpet for the Boston Symphony Orchestra but was > required to put in some > time with the Boston Pops from time to time. > > I spent many pleasant hours at Tanglewood, sitting with Doris while the > B.S.O., with Jerry, played. I think the most memorable occasion was on one > warm summer evening when they happened to be playing Tchaikovsky's 1812 > Overture while real thunder and lightening crashed all around outside the > 'music tent' - Truly spectacular. When Arthur Fiedler died, Jerry made the > comment that the great musician was now 'de-composing'. One time when we > were at Beaulieu together, we went to his shipping company at the > Southampton docks with a load of stuff to ship, Jerry spotted an enormous > pile of packing crates that went almost up to the ceiling of this large > warehouse. Before anyone new what he was up to, he had climbed up to the > top of this pile with a little bugle that he had purchased at Beaulieu. He > assumed a statuesque pose on top of the crates and blew the Cavalry charge > which was met with a hardy round of applause from the dock workers and truck > drivers below. He was a great guy with a wonderful sense of humor and many > will miss him. > Badger > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:24:51 -0400 > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > More Jerry.......... > Doris once told me that Jerry had her in tears on their wedding night > because he wouldn't drive with her to their honeymoon hotel. He made her go > by herself while he went someplace to look at a TD and he met up with her at > the hotel later on - I don't know if he bought the TD. > . > Jerry traveled the world with the Boston Symphony Orchestra and he used to > complain to Doris that he got bored just sitting in his hotel room in some > strange city with nothing to do so on his next trip, Doris equipped him with > some artist's materials like a sketch pad and so on and told him to look out > of his hotel window and draw whatever he saw. So he was sitting in his > hotel room on his next trip and he opened his suitcase and there was his pad > and pencils so he opened up his curtains for something to draw only to find > that his window was about two feet away from a solid brick wall. Of course > when he returned home and Doris asked him if the art supplies were a good > idea, he produced a perfectly drawn rendering of a brick wall that covered > the entire paper. > > I will be at Beaulieu again this year as I have been every year for the past > 28 - or is it 29 - but it will be a different and a lonelier place without > Jerry scurrying about from stall to stall in search of rare MG widgets and > telling his funny stories over a couple of pints at the end of each day. > But life goes on. > Badger > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:46:11 -0400 > From: "John Patterson" jwp_mgtc@chartermi.net> > Subject: > > Hi Gang- I blew an oil line from the filter to the block coming home from a > car show on Sat and have ordered a new one from Moss. My question, is there > a spin off type of filter unit that will fit a TC and where can I get one?. > I might want to change to this type of filter unit If the group recommends > it. This is the second time in the 46 years I have owned this TC that this > particular oil line let go. I have the aluminum filter unit with the twine > filter cartridge in it which I changed to in the 60's when this unit came > out. Maybe the unit is vibrating and putting stress on this line? > thanks > John Patterson TC 7025 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:11:49 EDT > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > Dear Badge; Thanks for the correction and the great memory of a good man. His > death has triggered my thoughts of younger days and happy times. > Thom > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:12:27 +0000 > From: candahill@worldnet.att.net > Subject: Re: TC Oil filter adapter > > I'm sure Bob Grunau will respond with information about > the oil filter adapter that he makes for the early XPAG > engine. Bob's email: cgrunau@pathcom.com > > Just want to say that I am a satisfied customer. Its a > very nice piece - and the price is very reasonable. > Don't remember exactly, but it was less than $100 US. > It fits in to the original filter bracket, so vibration > shouldn't be an issue. It uses a variety of commonly > available modern cartridges. I use a Ford unit on mine. > > Also, I vaguely remember someone posting that they had > flex lines made to replace the hard lines to and from > the filter. I was thinking about doing this if I ever > started having problems with those lines. > > Regards, > Charles Hill > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:58:12 -0400 > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > Still more Jerry............. > > One time, the orchestra gave an open air concert in Central Park in New York > City. Of course Jerry was there with his trumpet and they played a > particular piece that called for an "off stage" trumpet which "answered" > certain parts of the piece that the main body of the orchestra played and > the trumpeter was not meant to be seen by the audience. Since the concert > was in the open park with no offstage place, Jerry was hiding behind a large > clump of bushes holding his trumpet and waiting for his part when a NYC > police officer came up who didn't realize that Jerry was part of the > orchestra and tried to arrest him for attempting to disrupt the performance. > Jerry was able to explain the situation to the officer and avoid arrest but > in the process, he missed his que and basically ruined the piece. > > When Jerry rolled his MG J4 at Watkins Glen, and after a surgeon had > skillfully reattached Jerry's severed fingers, Jerry asked the Doctor > whether his hand would ever be well enough to play the piano. The Doctor, > who knew Jerry was a famous musician, told him that with time and healing, > he was certain that Jerry would play the piano beautifully. Jerry said, > "that's terrific because I never could play it before, I play trumpet". > Badge > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:35:39 -0700 > From: David & Joyce Edgar djedgar@pacbell.net> > Subject: spin off oil filter adapter > > John, > > In addition to Bob Grunau, Phil Marino also sells an spin off oil > filter adaptor. Both are excellent units. I also broke the > filter-block oil line due to vibration even though the filter is > strapped to the block. Over many years those steel tubes vibrate and > crack as many of this list has experienced. Phil can fit flex tubing > to your original pipe fittings and also sells a heavy duty filter > strap. Phil had a strap break on his TC so came up with something > stronger although very modern looking. Mike Goodman can also put > flex hose on your original fittings. Flex tubing does not look > original however if that concerns you. > > Bob Grunau - cgrunau@pathcom.com > Phil Marino 909-352-4419 (doesn't have email) > Mike Goodman - oldmgdoc@aol.com phone 818-996-7388 > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > El Cajon, California > > > At 9:46 AM -0400 7/29/02, John Patterson wrote: > >Hi Gang- I blew an oil line from the filter to the block coming home from a > >car show on Sat and have ordered a new one from Moss. My question, is there > >a spin off type of filter unit that will fit a TC and where can I get one?. > >I might want to change to this type of filter unit If the group recommends > >it. This is the second time in the 46 years I have owned this TC that this > >particular oil line let go. I have the aluminum filter unit with the twine > >filter cartridge in it which I changed to in the 60's when this unit came > >out. Maybe the unit is vibrating and putting stress on this line? > >thanks > >John Patterson TC 7025 > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:43:18 EDT > From: AJChalmers@aol.com > Subject: Re: Oil Lines > > In a message dated 7/29/02 6:46:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > jwp_mgtc@chartermi.net writes: > > > > I blew an oil line from the filter to the block coming home from a > > car show on Sat and have ordered a new one from Moss > > Replace these dangerous lines with flexible ones made and sold by Phil > Marino. He's not on the internet: > > 16199 Hidden Cove Drive > Riverside, CA 92503 > (909) 352 4419 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:45:26 EDT > From: AJChalmers@aol.com > Subject: Re: TC Oil filter adapter > > In a message dated 7/29/02 7:13:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > candahill@worldnet.att.net writes: > > > > . I was thinking about doing this if I ever > > started having problems with those lines. > > > > Problem is, your first indication of problems could be an oil-less engine at > speed. Do it now > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:51:07 EDT > From: taterry@aol.com > Subject: Handy engine building web site > > Gents, I just discovered this site........seems like some good advice here. > Terry in Oakland > > http://www.hastingsmfg.com/service_tips.htm > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:25:10 -0400 > From: kwcp kwcp@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: > > John: > I have both Bob Grunau's filter adaptor and Mike Goodmans flex lines. I > wouldn't leave home without either. > Ken TC 4147 > > John Patterson wrote: > > > Hi Gang- I blew an oil line from the filter to the block coming home from a > > car show on Sat and have ordered a new one from Moss. My question, is there > > a spin off type of filter unit that will fit a TC and where can I get one?. > > I might want to change to this type of filter unit If the group recommends > > it. This is the second time in the 46 years I have owned this TC that this > > particular oil line let go. I have the aluminum filter unit with the twine > > filter cartridge in it which I changed to in the 60's when this unit came > > out. Maybe the unit is vibrating and putting stress on this line? > > thanks > > John Patterson TC 7025 > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:02:07 -0300 > From: "Robert Grunau" cgrunau@pathcom.com> > Subject: RE: > > Hi John, > I sell an aluminum adapter for the TC to accept a modern spin-on filter. > Cost is $70.00 US$ plus $7.00 US$ postage for a total of $77.00 US$. The > unit replicates the top half of the original cannister and uses original oil > lines, banjo bolts and mounting. Email me if you need further details. > The filter unit MUST be fastened tight to the block. Any vibration of the > unit will fatique the oil lines. I improve on the original hooked straps by > making a new strap which passes behind the filter bracket to the block and > uses a 5/16" lock bolt to join the ends. Looks original. Also make sure a > slight clearance is present between the block and the "U" rear line, if no > clearance and a slight vibration, the oil line can fret against the block > and wear a hole in the oil line. > Regards, Bob Grunau > Hi Gang- I blew an oil line from the filter to the block coming home from a > car show on Sat and have ordered a new one from Moss. My question, is there > a spin off type of filter unit that will fit a TC and where can I get one?. > I might want to change to this type of filter unit If the group recommends > it. This is the second time in the 46 years I have owned this TC that this > particular oil line let go. I have the aluminum filter unit with the twine > filter cartridge in it which I changed to in the 60's when this unit came > out. Maybe the unit is vibrating and putting stress on this line? > thanks > John Patterson TC 7025 > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 5/24/02 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 5/24/02 > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:06:05 -0500 > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > Subject: Re: Twin Cam - Jerry Goguen > > All: > > >> > Jerry Goguen has died. > >> > > And his presence will be greatly missed. The last time I saw him was at > GOF Central in 1991. And friendly as ever to the many who he had > contact with. > > If I remember correctly, he played trumpet for the Boston Symphony. He > started collecting MG parts when on tour. Every time they went into a > new area, he visited the local MG dealers and bought all of the old T > series stuff as it was getting hard to find even in the late 60's. When > I first started getting parts from Abingdon, most of it was NOS. His > reproductions were among the best IMO. > > Blake J. Urban > > MG TD > MGA twin cam > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:09:00 -0500 > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > >> > great red-headed kid named Chris > >> > Chris Nolan > > Blake > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:24:11 -0700 > From: "R. Zwart" zwart@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Handy engine building web site > > They made some of the best cast iron rings.. I used them first in 1947, on my > 1926 Buick; when I couldn't afford to rebore my scored cylinders. Those > rings seated in within a week. I went from quart of oil per 200 miles to > a quart every 1000 miles.... Still should be good. > BOB > > taterry@aol.com wrote: > > > Gents, I just discovered this site........seems like some good advice here. > > Terry in Oakland > > > > http://www.hastingsmfg.com/service_tips.htm > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:58:49 +0100 > From: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 921 > > Hi All, > On the subject of Morgans my brother owns a +8 seems to go round > corners allright to me! If you really want to see a Morgan trike corner I > suggest you visit a VSCC meeting in the UK and I'm sure you will be > impressed, certainly at the skill of the driver/rider/pilot! > > Yours, > Ron Benson TB (just put it back in > the Garage) > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:57:24 -0500 > > From: Spook01@comcast.net > > Subject: Re: Should I sell TC > > > > Morgan???? > > Have any of you actually DRIVEN a Morgan? If you think a TC is skittish, > > wait until you sample that "sliding pillar" front end........ > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:08:39 +1000 > From: "Murray Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 921 > > You want to try and catch a Morgan Three Wheeler in a TC on the track! > Its bloody difficult! You get them on the bends then they scream by on the > straights! > > Murray (in Oz) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 921 > > > > Hi All, > > On the subject of Morgans my brother owns a +8 seems to go round > > corners allright to me! If you really want to see a Morgan trike corner I > > suggest you visit a VSCC meeting in the UK and I'm sure you will be > > impressed, certainly at the skill of the driver/rider/pilot! > > > > Yours, > > Ron Benson TB (just put it back > in > > the Garage) > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:57:24 -0500 > > > From: Spook01@comcast.net > > > Subject: Re: Should I sell TC > > > > > > Morgan???? > > > Have any of you actually DRIVEN a Morgan? If you think a TC is > skittish, > > > wait until you sample that "sliding pillar" front end........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 21 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:17:48 -0400 > From: "Mark McCombs" rudge@core.com> > Subject: EXU front bumper complete > > Dear all- > I have thought long and hard on this and have decided that I will never restore and install the front bumper on my EXU. > So here goes: > For Sale: Complete EXU front bumper, with mounting brackets and even original mounting bolts. > In good overall shape, fairly straight, minor dent in one overrider, still assembled with original bolts, ect. minor crack repair in the lower center of main bumper. Would obviously need restored and rechromed, but in all fairness, probably better than my description. $250 US; Partial trade for excellant EXU headlights complete, or just shells and rims, but not reproductions. > Thanks- > Mark McCombs > TC8126 > Ohio > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:27:12 EDT > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com > Subject: Oil Adaptor Kit by Bob G. > > I purchased Bob's kit two years ago. Trouble free and it's workmanship is a > piece of engineering art. > Thom Collins > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 23 > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:14:36 EDT > From: FIGSMG@cs.com > Subject: Compression vs Cylinder Head Depth > > Someone asked me a question tonight and I'm stumped, I need some help. > > With all the talk of compression ratio vs bore size and the dangers in over > doing it , where are the dangers in over milled heads? Many of these cars > have been > "shaved " or trued during rebuild to the point of compression ratios that > that even avgas won't handle. Where are the points of common sense and where > do we stop and shop for a new head. > Thanx, cheers Fig > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 24 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:33:43 -0700 > From: David Lodge wargs@Mac.com> > Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Goguen Memories > > M. le B, > Jerry sounds as though he was a helluvafella. I'm surprised (and sorry) that > I never bumped into the two of you at Beaulieu; I knew that he was an > habitue, and I always asked the stall-holders if any of them had seen him, > always to be met with " he was just here"! > Regards, David Lodge > > > > > More Jerry.......... > > Doris once told me that Jerry had her in tears on their wedding night > > because he wouldn't drive with her to their honeymoon hotel. He made her go > > by herself while he went someplace to look at a TD and he met up with her at > > the hotel later on - I don't know if he bought the TD. > > . > > Jerry traveled the world with the Boston Symphony Orchestra and he used to > > complain to Doris that he got bored just sitting in his hotel room in some > > strange city with nothing to do so on his next trip, Doris equipped him with > > some artist's materials like a sketch pad and so on and told him to look out > > of his hotel window and draw whatever he saw. So he was sitting in his > > hotel room on his next trip and he opened his suitcase and there was his pad > > and pencils so he opened up his curtains for something to draw only to find > > that his window was about two feet away from a solid brick wall. Of course > > when he returned home and Doris asked him if the art supplies were a good > > idea, he produced a perfectly drawn rendering of a brick wall that covered > > the entire paper. > > > > I will be at Beaulieu again this year as I have been every year for the past > > 28 - or is it 29 - but it will be a different and a lonelier place without > > Jerry scurrying about from stall to stall in search of rare MG widgets and > > telling his funny stories over a couple of pints at the end of each day. > > But life goes on. > > Badger > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 25 > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:18:30 -0500 > From: Bullwinkle yd3@nvc.net> > Subject: Re: Compression vs Cylinder Head Depth > > FiG: > > What follows is part of a letter I sent to Dave Tinker in Feb, 2001. > It concerns the XPAG head and a Laystall head. > > Blake > > ******************** > I found the following data in a booklet written by WKF Wood in 1968. > The chamber size is for all four chambers. > > > Remove Head Total Chamber > Ratio > Finished Depth Size 1&1/4 L. 1&1/2 L. > > Std. 76.75 mm (3.022 in.) 200 cc 7.25 8.33 > 1/16 in. 75.16 mm (2.959 in.) 175 cc 8.1 9.0 > 3/32 74.37 mm (2.928 in.) 165 cc 8.6 9.9 > 1/8 in. 73.58 mm (2.898 in.) 150 cc 9.3 10.7 > > > I checked this against an original factory tunning booklet > "Special Tuning of the MG Midget type XPAG (As fitted to Series > TB and TC Cars)" Issue 1, June 1949. It shows several stages of > tune also. They list the chamber size as 45.5cc and the head > gasket C.C. as being 4.5 c.c compressed. Adding these together > and multiplying by 4 you get the total head cc as 200 which is > the same as in the chart above. > > Using MGs data, the chart would be like this. The chamber size > in this chart is for one cylinder. > > Head Chamber Size Ratio > Remove Finished Depth With Gasket 1&1/4 > Litre > > Std. 76.75 mm 50.0 cc 7.25 > 3/32 74.37 mm 8.6 > 1/8 73.575 mm 9.3 > > Checking the data in the first chart by recalculating seems to > verify that the data is correct. For instance, multiplying 76.75 > mm by the conversion factor 0.03937 you get 3.0216475 in. for the > original head thickness. The head thickness of 73.575 converts > to 2.897 using the same process. The cylinder capacity can be > calculated by taking 66.5 dividing it by two, squaring, > multiplying by pi (3.14156) and mulitply by the bore of 90 mm > which gives an individual cylinder capacity of 312.59 cc for one > cylinder and 1250.36 for all four. Using the head size of 50 cc > and the cylinder capacity of 312.59, the Compression Ratio can be > found by adding the 50 to 312.59 and dividing by 50. Doing that > gives a CR of 7.2518. Using 1250cc for the engine capacity and > 200cc for the total head capacity the result is exactly 7.25. > > We can check the 9.3 CR by adding 150 to 1250 and dividing by 150. > (1250+150)/150=9.333... So The CC capacities listed for the head > in the first chart must be very accurate. > > Using that data, I found that every 1/64 inch (0.0625 in.) > removed from the head's thickness reduces the cylinder head's > chambers about 6.25 cc. This assumes that the chambers walls > remain more or less vertical to the heads deck. This data could > be used to get an approximate CR of a milled Laystall head's IF > you know the original thickness. > > Attached is a poor copy of a picture of a standard head and the > Laystall. The shape of the chamber is slightly different. It > appears that removing the same amount of thickness from it will > leave the finished chamber size slightly larger than that for a > standard iron head. If you can cc an original Laystall head and > measure the head's thickness you could complete this partial > chart for Laystall head which would probably be very close. The > article on the Laystall head I sent yesterday was done on a TD > (1250 cc). If you happen to have the head on a 1500 cc XPEG the > results would be about what's in the chart below. The minus sign > indicates the decrease in the heads thickness or the decrease in > the chambers capacity. The ~ (tilde) sign is the best I can do > on the keyboard for the mathematical symbol "is approximately > equal too." > > Head Chamber Size Ratio > Remove Finished Depth With Gasket 1&1/4 L. 1&1/2 L. > > Std. ? ? 9.3 ~10.7 > 1/64 in. -0.015625 in. -6.25 cc ~9.7 ~11.4 > 1/32 in. -0.03125 in. -12.5 cc ~10.1 ~11.9 > 3/64 in. -0.046875 in. -18.75 cc ~10.5 ~12.4 > 1/16 in. -0.125 in. -25.0 cc ~11.0 ~13.0 > > > This is the best that I can do with the books I have. > Sincerely, > > Blake J. Urban > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >