Books

[Michael DeRentz]

Greetings All, [i]Immortal T Series [/i]By Chris Harvey. Michael DeRentz

[John G. Bulcken IV]

Good morning all,

To add some more :

A factory manual and parts book...originals have clearer pics. but a repro. is OK too if you don't have one and good for in the shop.

A factory brochure is nice to have or again a copy for the info.

The T Series MGs by Robson is a must...good info. and factory pics.

Brooklands Books 1929-1939, and the TA & TC one are good.

MGs On Patrol by A. Green is good.

There are many more,

Cheers,

John

TB#0398

[Terry & Lynda-May O'Brien]

Along with the TC I also have a YT and have have it much longer. No MG book collection should be without David Lawrence's book "Let There Be Y's". Even if you have no interest in Y's this book is a gem. Lots of detailed info that relates to T types. I think Mike Sherell's book may have been the inspiration but David's book overtakes it in some respects. Terry

[Ray]

Hi guys, A good book with lots of MG's is "Wheelspin" "Competition Motoring from the Driver's Seat" by C.A.N. May. 1948, G.T. Foulis & Co., Ltd., 7 Milford Lane, Strand, W.C. 2, England The frontispiece shows "The four M.G. cars with which the author had most of his Trials Experiences". Those four are a J2, a P type, a N Magnette, and -as written- THE "BLOWN" PB MIDGET. Great reading about pre-war trials events and cars, with clear photos of the cars. No doubt long out of print, I suppose that one could locate a copy on the net, or a book sale in England. Best, Ray

----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Bulcken IV" cbrenner01@snet.net> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Books Good morning all, To add some more : A factory manual and parts book...originals have clearer pics. but a repro. is OK too if you don't have one and good for in the shop. A factory brochure is nice to have or again a copy for the info. The T Series MGs by Robson is a must...good info. and factory pics. Brooklands Books 1929-1939, and the TA & TC one are good. MGs On Patrol by A. Green is good. There are many more, Cheers, John TB#0398

[dgronet@netzero.net]

Greetings Group. I have a new copy of Michael Sherrell's "TCs Forever" which I would like to sell for $95 plus shipping. I also have a nearly new "MG T Series In Detail" by Paddy Willmer but I don't know what to ask; so if anyone is interested make an offer. Cheers, Dick Gronet TC 5135 Woodside, CA ____________________________________________________________ Instant Debt Consolidation Quote Free debt consolidation quote online! No obligation. No credit check. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=CXkyYbeCI2Ur1qYWAr8QGQAAJ1EUup7xKi20CHPmWpeVkA-AAAQAAAAFAAAAAMIcgD8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI2kQAAAAA=

[BUD SILVERS]

Hello all; Along the subject of books I just got a copy of a book about 1930 s road racing in the USA. I was bit surprised to see that most of the pictures were in the New England area of the USA. What really surprised me is that the most predominant car in the book is the MG J2. These guys were racing the heck out of them. There were a few Alfa s and Bugatti s, but there were lots of MG J2 s. There were a few with American cars and one team particularly was racing a Willis 77, whatever they are! There are pictures of a couple of Fords also. Just thought it was interesting. Along another topic I may be looking for a 1917 Ford Truck one of these days, just for fun. Anne and I visited the Broadmore carriage museum last weekend and saw a car and hear a story about a young man from Nebraska who in 1922 highly modified a Ford truck into an open wheel, single seat, race car. He drove said car from eastern Nebraska to Pikes Peak for the annual hill climb race. The factory teams and regulars laughed at him, but he had the last laugh. He won! For those of you who are interested in historical events, the Pikes Peak Hill Climb is the second oldest race in the USA. The only race older is Indy. Incidentally this Model T didn t have a steering box. The drag link was connected to the steering shaft directly. I am going to go back and get a picture. I think the kids motto was The hell with safety, just go fast! Have a great day. Bud Silvers TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado...... From: ROGER [mailto:rogermuir@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:42 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Chris Harvey - The Immortal T Series Whilst flicking through my 31 year old copy of this book, I looked again at the photos on pp's 39 and 57. Chris Harvey states that the picture on pp 57 was on the Lands End Trial. Well no, not unless it moved to mid Wales. Both pictures are in fact at the southern end of the Bwlch - y- Groes pass in Wales. Lat 52.778114 Long -3.624897 ( I would have put a Google Earth location point but we aren't to do attachments. The bend is, at any rate in 2007, now fully shrouded in trees. I believe the pic on page 57 is actually of a 'test' taking place in the MG Car Club Midland Centre's 1953 Welsh Rally. Bob Charlesworth won in his class and was in the winning team. Incidentally the picture on pp57 shows a static engine mounted on blocks. No the engine isn't still there, but the blocks are!! Roger Muir TA1890 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Steve S.]

Back then, the standard model T truck (not the large TT version) was built on the same chassis as everything else. You would take a rolling chassis and drop whatever body you wanted on it. For example, my '25 is a roadster front body with a steel pickup bed on the rear. I can undo four bolts, remove the bed and drop a roadster rear half on, should I want a touring car! Well, if I had a rear roadster body I could. The steering is direct by rods, but there is a reducer box just behind the steering wheel, available in two (?) ratios. Without the reducer box it would be VERY difficult to hold a straight line on a rough surface! On another note, a new world record was recently set for a model T engine. In a streamlined body and with massive modification (but a stock engine block, overbored) the car reached 166 MPH. Not bad for a design from 1909 with 22 original HP! - Steve Simmons - TC8975, LA, CA - http://www.mgnuts.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Silvers To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Books Hello all; Along the subject of books I just got a copy of a book about 1930's road racing in the USA. I was bit surprised to see that most of the pictures were in the New England area of the USA. What really surprised me is that the most predominant car in the book is the MG J2. These guys were racing the heck out of them. There were a few Alfa's and Bugatti's, but there were lots of MG J2's. There were a few with American cars and one team particularly was racing a Willis 77, whatever they are! There are pictures of a couple of Fords also. Just thought it was interesting. Along another topic I may be looking for a 1917 Ford Truck one of these days, just for fun. Anne and I visited the Broadmore carriage museum last weekend and saw a car and hear a story about a young man from Nebraska who in 1922 highly modified a Ford truck into an open wheel, single seat, race car. He drove said car from eastern Nebraska to Pikes Peak for the annual hill climb race. The factory teams and regulars laughed at him, but he had the last laugh. He won! For those of you who are interested in historical events, the Pikes Peak Hill Climb is the second oldest race in the USA. The only race older is Indy. Incidentally this Model T didn't have a steering box. The drag link was connected to the steering shaft directly. I am going to go back and get a picture. I think the kids motto was "The hell with safety, just go fast!" Have a great day. Bud Silvers TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado...... From: ROGER [mailto:rogermuir@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:42 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Chris Harvey - The Immortal T Series Whilst flicking through my 31 year old copy of this book, I looked again at the photos on pp's 39 and 57. Chris Harvey states that the picture on pp 57 was on the Lands End Trial. Well no, not unless it moved to mid Wales. Both pictures are in fact at the southern end of the Bwlch - y- Groes pass in Wales. Lat 52.778114 Long -3.624897 ( I would have put a Google Earth location point but we aren't to do attachments. The bend is, at any rate in 2007, now fully shrouded in trees. I believe the pic on page 57 is actually of a 'test' taking place in the MG Car Club Midland Centre's 1953 Welsh Rally. Bob Charlesworth won in his class and was in the winning team. Incidentally the picture on pp57 shows a static engine mounted on blocks. No the engine isn't still there, but the blocks are!! Roger Muir TA1890 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Karl Vacek]

Bud - Model T's do have steering boxes, but not where you're looking for one. There is indeed a gear reduction located at the top of the steering column. It's a planetary gear set, 3 planet gears on a plate on the top of the steering shaft, andthe steering wheel turning the sun gear the annular gear machined directly into the inside of the brass steering box. Karl Vacek Riverside, Illinois USA TC 6370 1916 Ford Model T Touring

----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Silvers To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Books Hello all; Along the subject of books I just got a copy of a book about 1930's road racing in the USA. I was bit surprised to see that most of the pictures were in the New England area of the USA. What really surprised me is that the most predominant car in the book is the MG J2. These guys were racing the heck out of them. There were a few Alfa's and Bugatti's, but there were lots of MG J2's. There were a few with American cars and one team particularly was racing a Willis 77, whatever they are! There are pictures of a couple of Fords also. Just thought it was interesting. Along another topic I may be looking for a 1917 Ford Truck one of these days, just for fun. Anne and I visited the Broadmore carriage museum last weekend and saw a car and hear a story about a young man from Nebraska who in 1922 highly modified a Ford truck into an open wheel, single seat, race car. He drove said car from eastern Nebraska to Pikes Peak for the annual hill climb race. The factory teams and regulars laughed at him, but he had the last laugh. He won! For those of you who are interested in historical events, the Pikes Peak Hill Climb is the second oldest race in the USA. The only race older is Indy. Incidentally this Model T didn't have a steering box. The drag link was connected to the steering shaft directly. I am going to go back and get a picture. I think the kids motto was "The hell with safety, just go fast!" Have a great day. Bud Silvers TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado...... From: ROGER [mailto:rogermuir@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:42 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Chris Harvey - The Immortal T Series Whilst flicking through my 31 year old copy of this book, I looked again at the photos on pp's 39 and 57. Chris Harvey states that the picture on pp 57 was on the Lands End Trial. Well no, not unless it moved to mid Wales. Both pictures are in fact at the southern end of the Bwlch - y- Groes pass in Wales. Lat 52.778114 Long -3.624897 ( I would have put a Google Earth location point but we aren't to do attachments. The bend is, at any rate in 2007, now fully shrouded in trees. I believe the pic on page 57 is actually of a 'test' taking place in the MG Car Club Midland Centre's 1953 Welsh Rally. Bob Charlesworth won in his class and was in the winning team. Incidentally the picture on pp57 shows a static engine mounted on blocks. No the engine isn't still there, but the blocks are!! Roger Muir TA1890 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Karl Vacek]

Let's try this again - I didn't proofread my last message... Model T's do have steering boxes, but not where you're looking for one. There is indeed a gear reduction located at the top of the steering column. It's a planetary gear set, the steering wheel turning the sun gear, 3 planet gears on a plate on the top of the steering shaft, and the annular gear machined directly into the inside of the brass steering box. Karl Vacek Riverside, Illinois USA TC 6370 1916 Ford Model T Touring

----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Silvers Incidentally this Model T didn't have a steering box. The drag link was connected to the steering shaft directly. I am going to go back and get a picture. I think the kids motto was "The hell with safety, just go fast!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John McNarry]

Model T's do have planetary or since this forum is about British cars, epicyclic gearing. The fun part is, if your T is worn out enough, you can get the pitman to flip over and then left turn input steers right. Wouldn't that be fun on the other side of the road! John TC6338 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]