Re: N/P Steering box

Robert Grunau · Post by **Robert Grunau** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:18 am

Hi Bill, I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 weeks ago when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something inside the standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, dented headlight, dented left front fender, broken front left spring, bent frame. Driver AOK. All in all, he was lucky, could have been a lot worse. OK, so I would like to see the detail differences for the MMM cars from TA/TC. I already have Bill Bollendonk info. for TA installation. Can you post the photos someplace? Maybe on T-ABC site as well as MMM site? Thanks, Bob I have installed a new VW steering box in my PA much like the one in Pip Bucknell's as a direct result of driving and inspecting his. It gives the advantage of brand new, very sturdy equipment with the concomitant advantages of safety and reliability... and it steers like a dream. Other than welding a plate on the frame there are no other changes or destruction of anything on the car including original steering box attachment brackets. I used the counsel and advice of Bill Bollendonk in his article on the same retrofit to the TABC applications. I have pictures of my project showing how it differs from the TABC installation, and will be happy to share them as long as nobody gives me any crap for my spin on saftey and reliability VS. originality. Bill Tantau 219 Knoll Pl. PO Box 727 St. Helena, CA 94574-0727 707-963-2313 (FAX -2370) bill707@aol.com British Cars Web: http://www.team.net/sol MMM list subscription info: http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool

mrbadger · Post by **mrbadger** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:56 am

Why don't you race a Volkswagen? A curious Badger Robert Grunau wrote:

> > Hi Bill, > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 weeks ago > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something inside the > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, dented > headlight, dented left front fender, broken front left spring, bent frame. > Driver AOK. All in all, he was lucky, could have been a lot worse. > > OK, so I would like to see the detail differences for the MMM cars from > TA/TC. I already have Bill Bollendonk info. for TA installation. Can you > post the photos someplace? Maybe on T-ABC site as well as MMM site? > Thanks, Bob > > I have installed a new VW steering box in my PA much like the one in Pip > Bucknell's as a direct result of driving and inspecting his. It gives the > advantage of brand new, very sturdy equipment with the concomitant > advantages > of safety and reliability... and it steers like a dream. Other than welding > a > plate on the frame there are no other changes or destruction of anything on > the car including original steering box attachment brackets. I used the > counsel and advice of Bill Bollendonk in his article on the same retrofit to > the TABC applications. I have pictures of my project showing how it differs > from the TABC installation, and will be happy to share them as long as > nobody > gives me any crap for my spin on saftey and reliability VS. originality. > > Bill Tantau > 219 Knoll Pl. > PO Box 727 > St. Helena, CA 94574-0727 > 707-963-2313 (FAX -2370) > bill707@aol.com > British Cars Web: http://www.team.net/sol > MMM list subscription info: http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Ray McCrary · Post by **Ray McCrary** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:59 am

This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

> Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > A curious Badger > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > Hi Bill, > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 weeks

ago

> > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something inside

the

> > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell,

dented

mrbadger · Post by **mrbadger** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 10:31 am

VW carbs on Austins??????? Ray McCrary wrote:

> > This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! > Best, > Ray McCrary > "Speed is Life; > of course Luck and Altitude > are helpful, too." > > > Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > > A curious Badger > > > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 weeks > ago > > > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something inside > the > > > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, > dented

twilson@motionwear.net · Post by **twilson@motionwear.net** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:07 pm

Why would anyone put an Austins on VW carbs? Tom Wilson TC0272 mrbadger wrote: VW carbs on Austins??????? Ray McCrary wrote:

> > This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! > Best, > Ray McCrary > "Speed is Life; > of course Luck and Altitude > are helpful, too." > > > Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > > A curious Badger > > > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4

weeks

> ago > > > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something

inside

> the > > > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, > dented

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mrbadger · Post by **mrbadger** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:49 pm

Yeah. Good question! And versa vice, or whatever. twilson@motionwear.net wrote:

> > Why would anyone put an Austins on VW carbs? > > Tom Wilson > TC0272 > > mrbadger wrote: > VW carbs on Austins??????? > > Ray McCrary wrote: > > > > This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! > > Best, > > Ray McCrary > > "Speed is Life; > > of course Luck and Altitude > > are helpful, too." > > > > > Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > > > A curious Badger > > > > > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 > weeks > > ago > > > > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something > inside > > the > > > > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, > > dented > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Ray McCrary · Post by **Ray McCrary** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:53 pm

Badger, Aren't you the guy who sold the A40 to the fellow in/near the Carolinas?? It had a VW carb stuck on it. Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

----- Original Message ----- From: "mrbadger" mrbadger@home.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] RE: N/P Steering box > Yeah. Good question! And versa vice, or whatever. > > twilson@motionwear.net wrote: > > > > Why would anyone put an Austins on VW carbs? > > > > Tom Wilson > > TC0272 > > > > mrbadger wrote: > > VW carbs on Austins??????? > > > > Ray McCrary wrote: > > > > > > This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! > > > Best, > > > Ray McCrary > > > "Speed is Life; > > > of course Luck and Altitude > > > are helpful, too." > > > > > > > Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > > > > A curious Badger > > > > > > > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 > > weeks > > > ago > > > > > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something > > inside > > > the > > > > > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad shell, > > > dented > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

mrbadger · Post by **mrbadger** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:01 pm

Well yeah Ray, I sold that car to that guy but this is the first I ever heard about any VW carb but I guess it worked okay 'cause he drove the damn thing home. Ray McCrary wrote:

> > Badger, > Aren't you the guy who sold the A40 to the fellow in/near the Carolinas?? > It had a VW carb stuck on it. > Best, > Ray McCrary > "Speed is Life; > of course Luck and Altitude > are helpful, too." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mrbadger" mrbadger@home.com> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] RE: N/P Steering box > > > Yeah. Good question! And versa vice, or whatever. > > > > twilson@motionwear.net wrote: > > > > > > Why would anyone put an Austins on VW carbs? > > > > > > Tom Wilson > > > TC0272 > > > > > > mrbadger wrote: > > > VW carbs on Austins??????? > > > > > > Ray McCrary wrote: > > > > > > > > This from a guy who hangs VW carbs on Austin's!! > > > > Best, > > > > Ray McCrary > > > > "Speed is Life; > > > > of course Luck and Altitude > > > > are helpful, too." > > > > > > > > > Why don't you race a Volkswagen? > > > > > A curious Badger > > > > > > > > > > Robert Grunau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > I won't give you any crap! Was racing with a TC guy at Lime Rock 4 > > > weeks > > > > ago > > > > > > when he lost all steering and hit the tire wall! Busted something > > > inside > > > > the > > > > > > standard steering box. No fun. Busted front bumper, dented rad > shell, > > > > dented > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >

Dave Ahrendt · Post by **Dave Ahrendt** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:50 pm

Hi Bill, Bob, et al, Anyone who would give somebody crap about making the TC safer, whether that be adding directional lights, Alfin drums or Datsun/VW steering boxes, is just a idiot. Plain and simple. I assume that they would prefer a TC to be possibly lost forever or the driver killed just so the car remains "original". Oh well. Didn't make any events this year. Bob, maybe I'll see you in Nova Scotia next year, Dave Ahrendt '46 TC #0524 with Datsun steering, better lighting, seat belts, Alfin brakes, and, "Oh my God", an alternator!

mrbadger · Post by **mrbadger** » Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:38 pm

Dave Ahrendt wrote:

> Hi Bill, Bob, et al, > "Anyone who would give somebody crap about making the TC safer,............................ is just a idiot....."

That's - AN idiot Dave not, "a" idiot. A pedantic and much amused Badger

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