shock absorbers

[p.cole]

Hi, I too have done a lot of work on the Luvax-Girling shock absorbers as fitted to the TC, and no doubt many other fine cars of that period. The following may help Don't attempt to unscrew the end caps using a pair of stilsons (or whatever they are called in the colonies), or by squeezing them in a vice. You will just chew the pretty knurled pattern on the periphery of the caps. Hold the caps in a three jaw chuck and then use a bar inserted into one of the mounting holes, and turn. They are right-hand threads, and yield with only a little effort. The fibre seals are easy to re-manufacture by simply punching them out of 1/16 inch fibre using a soft punch turned from mild steel or similar. I used aluminium as I had some bar of roughly the right size. I have also re-manufactured the shafts which is essential in any serious restoration because nothing is going to seal on a rusty shaft that has been scored by 50 years of road debris. I can provide a sketch and more information for anyone with a lathe that wants to have a go. I have also re-manufactured the filters described by other respondants. These presumably are there to filter the grit that inevitably gets past the seals. These filters are pressed from brass gauze. The core plugs are 1.125 inches in diameter which seem to be as rare as rocking-horse manure. Now in exchange for all these gems of wisdom, can someone answer one for me? The Brown book clearly shows a picture of a piston assembly, and points to a 'metering hole' in the side wall of one of the pistons. In only of the several shock absorbers I have dismantled, have I found the said metering hole, which has the effect of lowering the resistance to movement of the arm to an extent that it can easily be moved by hand. All the other units I have seen don't have this hole, and their arms are markedly more stiff to operate. Can anyone shed any light on this? Why do the majority of units I have encountered differ from the one depicted in the Brown Book? Was this an ear ly example of an upgrade to cater for the boy-racers of the day who craved stiffer suspensions? Peter Cole TC3665; Volvo SE40 (oops sorry) I have re-made the fibre seals that fit under the end caps

[John Patterson]

HI T GROUP I need your help- can anyone tell me the best way to get those pesky little rubber doughnuts into the shock and link arms. It's not covered in Mikes book. How much pressure is required, etc. Thanks John Patterson TC 7025

[John T. Seim]

Order the Moss Motors Shock Bush Installation Tool (385-890). List price is $54.95. It should last for the installation of the four bushes. Use of a 5", or larger, bench vise should be able to provide enough force to drive the bushings in place.

[tim.fiona.miller]

I think Brown and Gammons sell a kit of pilot tools to fit the bushes. I made do with some small sockets, jubilee clips and rubber lubricant but it was difficult. Tim Miller TA0264

----- Original Message ----- From: John Patterson jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> To: T-ABCs List mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] SHOCK ABSORBERS > HI T GROUP > I need your help- can anyone tell me the best way to get those pesky little > rubber doughnuts into the shock and link arms. It's not covered in Mikes > book. How much pressure is required, etc. > Thanks > John Patterson TC 7025 > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[ROSS TAYLOR]

Hi Could some kind person tell me the fla seal number for the shaft seal in the shock absorber body, as I am trying to build one rear shock out of two, A piston having broken in one. think it is 8**** something. Regards Ross TC4284

>From: "Bob McClaren" bobmgtc@cox.net> >To: "'MG-TABC'" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [mg-tabc] Puzzling Crown Wheel Numbers >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:35:01 -0400 > >All, > >I have removed the differential carrier from TC 3443's rear axle assembly >and have found some puzzling numbers stamped in the edge of the crown >wheel. I need some help deciphering what the numbers mean. The numbers >are as follows: >522175 8.54 MR155A 38/7 > >The differential carrier appears to be the correct one for the TC. The >crown wheel has 38 teeth, by my count, so maybe this setup has a ratio of >38/7 or 5.43?. I also counted revolutions of the universal joint flange >while turning the crown wheel and it is more than 5 turns but not quite 5 >1/2 turns. I looked in the service parts list (page A.4) but the part >number for a "Crown wheel and bevel pinion" is AJH 5306. > >Anyone know what this CW&P are out of? > >Baffled at the beach! > >Bob McClaren >Virginia Beach, VA >TC 3443 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! >Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter >http://mail.giantcompany.com > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[paroor@t-online.de]

Hi, These are the ones that seal the shaft from both sides and are the ones shown in the article, Federal Mogul # 340413. Sherwood got two of these seals for sale. Contact him. He left home last week for Homebuilt Aviation Show in the centre of the US, Oshkosh Wisconsin. He is expected back after a month. SherParker@aol.com Madhu TC 0448 -----Urspr ngliche Nachricht----- Von: ROSS TAYLOR [mailto:rossmvt@msn.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 05:25 An: bobmgtc@cox.net; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [mg-tabc] Re: Shock Absorbers Hi Could some kind person tell me the fla seal number for the shaft seal in the shock absorber body, as I am trying to build one rear shock out of two, A piston having broken in one. think it is 8**** something. Regards Ross TC4284

[murray arundell]

G'day all, What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal). Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear? Murray Arundell Brisbane Aus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Terry Sanders]

Murray, my TA came equiped with tube shocks...on the front end....I didn't get to drive it much before launching into the total restoration but IMHO, the springs on a TC are too short to take any advantage of tube shocks...I now have friction shocks on the TA and adjusting them is easy...however, at any adjustment, there isn't much effect. Just enjoy the TC rough ride as designed!! Terry Murray Arundell arundell@ghs.com.au> wrote: G'day all, What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal). Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear? Murray Arundell Brisbane Aus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred]

I think it's a waste of your time and money, as long as the present shocks are working, but if not, there are several places to have them rebuilt, probably for less than it would cost to convert to tubular shocks. Fred TC1353 _____ From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Murray Arundell Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:02 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers G'day all, What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal). Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear? Murray Arundell Brisbane Aus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bob Grunau]

I agree with Terry, not enough axle movement to bother with telescopics shocks. Besides they look cheap ( which they are ) and crappy.. Original hydraulic shocks work fine if the correct fluid is used. I use #20 motorcycle fork oil in the shocks. Want stiffer? use #25. I think its more important to lube the spring leaves once in a while to improve the TC ride. Bob Grunau Murray, my TA came equiped with tube shocks...on the front end....I didn't get to drive it much before launching into the total restoration but IMHO, the springs on a TC are too short to take any advantage of tube shocks...I now have friction shocks on the TA and adjusting them is easy...however, at any adjustment, there isn't much effect. Just enjoy the TC rough ride as designed!! Terry Murray Arundell arundell@ghs.com.au> wrote: G'day all, What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal). Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear? Murray Arundell Brisbane Aus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]