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[mark ward]

It is said, That 08 & newer puts out MORE Watts, & is a better Generator.

Will it fit an 07 & older?

[Norm Keller]

The ignition is different as the Gen2 is coil & battery while Gen1 uses a dedicated charge coil in the stator for generating power for the CDI box.

 

This is often referred as "magneto type" ignition because the ignition has its own separate system.

 

In order to convert a Gen1 to a Gen2 stator, the ignition would have to be converted to some other power source or change the CDI box to one which can be powered from a "12 volt" DC system. IMO, this would be an undesirable conversion because the Gen1 has the ability to bump start and run without the "12 volt" system. It is much easier to bump start a Gen1 with dead battery, for example, because the Gen1 develops sufficient ignition charge power at quite low RPM.

 

Gen2 with dead battery must turn the alternator at sufficient RPM to raise charging system (battery) voltage sufficiently to power the CDI to create a spark. The problem with this is that the battery's load, combined with that of lights and other components must be powered by sufficient alternator output.

 

I have also been given to understand that the Gen2 must reach higher RPM than Gen1 in order to produce a trigger signal needed for the CDI to fire the coil. This will increase the difficulty in bump starting.

 

Converting for some of us might include introducing a power converter in order power a Gen1 CDI from a "12 volt" system. For most people doing a conversion, converting to Gen2 stator would require replacing CDI box and (I think) ignition coil. The wiring also would require modification to accommodate wiring plugs and that the powering/stopping of the Gen1 and Gen2 ignitions require different strategies.

 

IMO, one would be better to convert to an after market stator intended for Gen1. FWIW, one should also consider that there are at least two higher output aftermarket stators available. Anyone who has wound generating coils will appreciate that more output current will require larger diameter wire while more (higher) output voltage will require more turns of wire. While we are stuck with the standard voltage range, the principle that increasing the output Wattage, requires more wire in the stator. There isn't room to add much more wire so in order to increase output, larger wire is used. Unfortunately, this means that the alternator will reach sufficient voltage to begin charging at a higher RPM than before. If one consults the output graph of the higher output Gen1 stators, one will see that these are not a good choice for lower RPM riding such as trail work or stop and go city.

 

Sorry to be long winded but wasn't certain of the context in which you asked the question so tried to cover bases.

 

[ron criswell]

Buddy I think I saw Jezebel recently at the Terlingua Chili Cookoff on the back of an ATV topless wearing a big Cowboy hat sporting a tattoo saying Cowboys Ride Hard. She entered her fish Chili but didn't place. Cowboys have to have beef. Criswell Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Harry Seifert wrote:

Cris, the Cognac must have fogged your brain a bit.  Jennifer s twin sister, Jezebel, a Tenere rider has been in Gay Paree, living on her late sister s wealth.Jennifer made her vast fortune importing clams to Southern California.Immediately after Jennifer s unfortunate demise under the wheels of that fish taco cart, Jezebel snatched the accumulated wealth, boogied off to Paree, bought the Tenere and has been living the fat life.  Jennifer was a large, handsome woman, of sturdy pioneer stock.  Jezebel, if you can remember, is an enormous, handsome woman who probably was hitched up to pull the pioneer wagon.I have this information from very trusted folk that are my Baja contacts.   Buddy  On Nov 16, 2014, at 13:49, Ron Criswell roncriswell2@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: My wife claims I had Apple Pie and Cognac two nights in a row in Paris...and the waiter offered me the keys to his Yamaha Sportbike. I do remember him offering me his keys but don't remember the Cognac (heh). I told "I don't need yer Yamadouche, I ride a Kay Jell RRRR. True story the few parts I remember. CriswellI saw Jennifer there drinking espresso eating fish. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2014, at 3:04 PM, mark ward nomad59@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Ever notice how you can post a TOPIC and with in 2-3 responce's, it has NOTHING, to do with what the TOPIC LINE says it is? HMMM? Fulll circle? 1st. I painted my KLR Candy,  APPLE RED. 2nd. My Grand mother baked the best APPLE Pie. 3rd, I burnt my finger on an APPLE Pie. 4th. I BURNT, my finger on my truck exhaust. 5th, I had a truck it was Candy APPLE RED 6th. HEY! What a coincidence, I just painted my KLR CANDY APPLE RED, AND BURNT MY FINGER WHILE TAPING OFF THE EXHAUST, DARN THING HEATED UP WHILE UNLOADING IT FROM THE TRUCK AT MY GRAND MOTHERS. PS. I was there picking up a PIE. LOL YA! WINTER AND 4 INCHS OF SNOW IS HERE. LOL