anything new on converting to tubeless?

[RobertWichert]

I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first time, so naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be able to help me out with. 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer put on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of Lemon Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals? 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam cover gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. Any hints out there? 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take out the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put the new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on the cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And the schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how does it seal to the cover? Or does it? DATA: Left Exhaust Right Exhaust Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 Shim 250 Shim 250 Left Intake Right Intake Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 Shim 250 Shim 260 I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says "try later next week". What great service! If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I think I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up. Cheers! -- Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

[RobertWichert]

Yes, but nothing on eyehandy.com Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/13/2012 7:12 AM, david zawadzki wrote: > Youtube has tons of klr videos > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:10 AM, RobertWichert > wrote: > > I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first time, so > naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be > able to > help me out with. > > 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer put > on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of > Lemon > Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals? > > 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam cover > gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and > MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. Any > hints out there? > > 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty > straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take > out > the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put the > new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on > the > cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the > spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the > pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And the > schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how > does > it seal to the cover? Or does it? > > DATA: > Left Exhaust Right Exhaust > Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 > Shim 250 Shim 250 > > Left Intake Right Intake > Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 > Shim 250 Shim 260 > > I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer > says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says > "try later next week". What great service! > > If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I think > I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up. > > Cheers! > > -- > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > > > > > > -- > David Z > mobile: 646-267-1109 > www.davidzmusic.com http://www.davidzmusic.com/> > www.thevanguardband.com http://www.thevanguardband.com/> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

Robert, My comments in the body of your message marked by ***. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 <><><><><><> <><><><><><> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:10:29 -0700 RobertWichert writes:

> I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first time, so > > naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be > able to > help me out with. > > 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer > put > on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of > Lemon > Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals?

*** I would ask the dealer what they oiled the filter with and then use what that manufacturer suggested. Failing that I'd probably try gas outside in an as safe as you can make it environment. The I would use No Toil filter oil so I wouldn't have that issue again. I'd clean No Toil using No Toil cleaner or Oxi-Clean (only two cleaners I know that work) in the sink or toilet or washing machine or dish washer or a big zip lock bag or ....

> 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam > cover > gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and > MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. > Any > hints out there?

*** I would not use a silicone sealer. I use a very light smear of Hylomar which is non hardening and won't clog oil passages. It will easily wipe off in 10,000 more smiles whether that is 5 months or 5 years later.

> 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty > straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take > out > the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put > the > new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on > the > cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the > spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the > > pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And > the > schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how > does > it seal to the cover? Or does it?

*** The oil filter seals both ends of the tube. Oil goes in the outside of the filter and then enters the tube through the holes in the middle of the tube. If the filter is clogged oil pressure will build and unfiltered oil will push the plunger in the end of the tube down enough to allow oil to pass through the holes at the end of the tube, along the outside of the tube inside the filter and then into the tube below the plunger.

> DATA: > Left Exhaust Right Exhaust > Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 > Shim 250 Shim 250 > > > Left Intake Right Intake > Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 > Shim 250 Shim 260

*** I work in inches as it's easier for me. It's the way "I" think. Clearances are Exhaust 0.15-0.25mm or 0.006"-0.010" Intake 0.10-0.20mm or 0.004"-0.008" So your data is...

> DATA in INCHES: > Left Exhaust Right Exhaust > Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.007" > Shim 250 Shim 250 > > Left Intake Right Intake > Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.006" > Shim 250 Shim 260

***shim size changes equal 0.002" per size change available. So changing the two exhaust shims to 245 will give you 0.009" clearance which is the best you can get. Changing the left intake will put the clearance too wide so stay the same. Change the right intake one shim size (use one of the exhaust shims you are taking out) will give you 0.008" which is perfect.

> I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer > > says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says > > "try later next week". What great service! > > If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I > think > I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up.

*** The last couple of times I've tried to get a 245 shim from my dealer they didn't have them either. My suggestion is to try a BMW motorcycle dealer and ask for the shim for a 1999 F650. Take a shim with you to make sure you get a shim that is 29mm diameter and not one of the ones that is 29.5mm in diameter. I've also been told a Ford car (I think it's the Tarus) uses the same size shim but I've never checked to see for sure. If you are desperate you could take the shims to a machine shop and ask them to surface grind it to 2.45mm or 0.0965" thick. Ask them to grind on the side with the numbers on it. Then install and put the surface ground side down when installing in the bucket. Use a 250 shim so they are only grinding 0.002" off it. Then buy a 250 from the dealer to fit the intake that needs a 250.

> Cheers! > > > -- > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068

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[RobertWichert]

Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right stuff, Jeff? Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/13/2012 8:23 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > Robert, > > My comments in the body of your message marked by ***. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:10:29 -0700 RobertWichert > writes: >> I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first time, so >> >> naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be >> able to >> help me out with. >> >> 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer >> put >> on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of >> Lemon >> Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals? > *** I would ask the dealer what they oiled the filter with and then use > what that manufacturer suggested. Failing that I'd probably try gas > outside in an as safe as you can make it environment. The I would use No > Toil filter oil so I wouldn't have that issue again. I'd clean No Toil > using No Toil cleaner or Oxi-Clean (only two cleaners I know that work) > in the sink or toilet or washing machine or dish washer or a big zip lock > bag or .... > > >> 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam >> cover >> gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and >> MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. >> Any >> hints out there? > *** I would not use a silicone sealer. I use a very light smear of > Hylomar which is non hardening and won't clog oil passages. It will > easily wipe off in 10,000 more smiles whether that is 5 months or 5 years > later. > > >> 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty >> straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take >> out >> the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put >> the >> new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on >> the >> cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the >> spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the >> >> pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And >> the >> schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how >> does >> it seal to the cover? Or does it? > *** The oil filter seals both ends of the tube. Oil goes in the outside > of the filter and then enters the tube through the holes in the middle of > the tube. If the filter is clogged oil pressure will build and > unfiltered oil will push the plunger in the end of the tube down enough > to allow oil to pass through the holes at the end of the tube, along the > outside of the tube inside the filter and then into the tube below the > plunger. > > >> DATA: >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 >> Shim 250 Shim 250 >> >> >> Left Intake Right Intake >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > *** I work in inches as it's easier for me. It's the way "I" think. > > Clearances are > Exhaust 0.15-0.25mm or 0.006"-0.010" > Intake 0.10-0.20mm or 0.004"-0.008" > > So your data is... > >> DATA in INCHES: >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.007" >> Shim 250 Shim 250 >> >> Left Intake Right Intake >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.006" >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > ***shim size changes equal 0.002" per size change available. > So changing the two exhaust shims to 245 will give you 0.009" clearance > which is the best you can get. > Changing the left intake will put the clearance too wide so stay the > same. Change the right intake one shim size (use one of the exhaust > shims you are taking out) will give you 0.008" which is perfect. > >> I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer >> >> says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says >> >> "try later next week". What great service! >> >> If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I >> think >> I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up. > *** The last couple of times I've tried to get a 245 shim from my dealer > they didn't have them either. My suggestion is to try a BMW motorcycle > dealer and ask for the shim for a 1999 F650. Take a shim with you to > make sure you get a shim that is 29mm diameter and not one of the ones > that is 29.5mm in diameter. I've also been told a Ford car (I think it's > the Tarus) uses the same size shim but I've never checked to see for > sure. > > If you are desperate you could take the shims to a machine shop and ask > them to surface grind it to 2.45mm or 0.0965" thick. Ask them to grind > on the side with the numbers on it. Then install and put the surface > ground side down when installing in the bucket. Use a 250 shim so they > are only grinding 0.002" off it. Then buy a 250 from the dealer to fit > the intake that needs a 250. > >> Cheers! >> >> >> -- >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > . > . > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail& Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > > >

[mark ward]

It's what Nascar etc use.

--- On Sun, 5/13/12, RobertWichert wrote: From: RobertWichert Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Oh great and knowledgeable group... To: "Jeff Saline" Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 4:28 PM Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right stuff, Jeff? Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 5/13/2012 8:23 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > Robert, > > My comments in the body of your message marked by ***. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:10:29 -0700 RobertWichert > writes: >> I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first time, so >> >> naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be >> able to >> help me out with. >> >> 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer >> put >> on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of >> Lemon >> Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals? > *** I would ask the dealer what they oiled the filter with and then use > what that manufacturer suggested. Failing that I'd probably try gas > outside in an as safe as you can make it environment. The I would use No > Toil filter oil so I wouldn't have that issue again. I'd clean No Toil > using No Toil cleaner or Oxi-Clean (only two cleaners I know that work) > in the sink or toilet or washing machine or dish washer or a big zip lock > bag or .... > > >> 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam >> cover >> gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and >> MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. >> Any >> hints out there? > *** I would not use a silicone sealer. I use a very light smear of > Hylomar which is non hardening and won't clog oil passages. It will > easily wipe off in 10,000 more smiles whether that is 5 months or 5 years > later. > > >> 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty >> straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take >> out >> the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put >> the >> new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on >> the >> cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the >> spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the >> >> pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And >> the >> schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how >> does >> it seal to the cover? Or does it? > *** The oil filter seals both ends of the tube. Oil goes in the outside > of the filter and then enters the tube through the holes in the middle of > the tube. If the filter is clogged oil pressure will build and > unfiltered oil will push the plunger in the end of the tube down enough > to allow oil to pass through the holes at the end of the tube, along the > outside of the tube inside the filter and then into the tube below the > plunger. > > >> DATA: >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 >> Shim 250 Shim 250 >> >> >> Left Intake Right Intake >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > *** I work in inches as it's easier for me. It's the way "I" think. > > Clearances are > Exhaust 0.15-0.25mm or 0.006"-0.010" > Intake 0.10-0.20mm or 0.004"-0.008" > > So your data is... > >> DATA in INCHES: >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.007" >> Shim 250 Shim 250 >> >> Left Intake Right Intake >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.006" >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > ***shim size changes equal 0.002" per size change available. > So changing the two exhaust shims to 245 will give you 0.009" clearance > which is the best you can get. > Changing the left intake will put the clearance too wide so stay the > same. Change the right intake one shim size (use one of the exhaust > shims you are taking out) will give you 0.008" which is perfect. > >> I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer >> >> says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says >> >> "try later next week". What great service! >> >> If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I >> think >> I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up. > *** The last couple of times I've tried to get a 245 shim from my dealer > they didn't have them either. My suggestion is to try a BMW motorcycle > dealer and ask for the shim for a 1999 F650. Take a shim with you to > make sure you get a shim that is 29mm diameter and not one of the ones > that is 29.5mm in diameter. I've also been told a Ford car (I think it's > the Tarus) uses the same size shim but I've never checked to see for > sure. > > If you are desperate you could take the shims to a machine shop and ask > them to surface grind it to 2.45mm or 0.0965" thick. Ask them to grind > on the side with the numbers on it. Then install and put the surface > ground side down when installing in the bucket. Use a 250 shim so they > are only grinding 0.002" off it. Then buy a 250 from the dealer to fit > the intake that needs a 250. > >> Cheers! >> >> >> -- >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > . > . > > __________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail& Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

I like it! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/13/2012 10:15 AM, mark ward wrote: > It's what Nascar etc use. > > --- On *Sun, 5/13/12, RobertWichert //* wrote: > > > From: RobertWichert > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Oh great and knowledgeable group... > To: "Jeff Saline" > Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 4:28 PM > > Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right > stuff, > Jeff? > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 5/13/2012 8:23 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Robert, > > > > My comments in the body of your message marked by ***. > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > <><><><><><> > > <><><><><><> > > On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:10:29 -0700 > RobertWichert http://us.mc814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert%40wichert.org>> > > writes: > >> I am doing a major service on my 2006 KLR 650 for the first > time, so > >> > >> naturally I have lots of questions that I hope you folks will be > >> able to > >> help me out with. > >> > >> 1) How do you wash an air filter? I have a Uni that the dealer > >> put > >> on a while ago. I have washed it about four times and ran out of > >> Lemon > >> Joy and it's still sticky. What do I do? Chemicals? > > *** I would ask the dealer what they oiled the filter with and > then use > > what that manufacturer suggested. Failing that I'd probably try gas > > outside in an as safe as you can make it environment. The I > would use No > > Toil filter oil so I wouldn't have that issue again. I'd clean > No Toil > > using No Toil cleaner or Oxi-Clean (only two cleaners I know > that work) > > in the sink or toilet or washing machine or dish washer or a big > zip lock > > bag or .... > > > > > >> 2) What non-permanent silicone sealer should I use for the cam > >> cover > >> gasket? It looks like the dealer used something and the books and > >> MarkNet all say to use something, but they don't say what to use. > >> Any > >> hints out there? > > *** I would not use a silicone sealer. I use a very light smear of > > Hylomar which is non hardening and won't clog oil passages. It will > > easily wipe off in 10,000 more smiles whether that is 5 months > or 5 years > > later. > > > > > >> 3) How does the oil filter work? The instructions are pretty > >> straightforward: Take off the cover, take out the old filter, take > >> out > >> the pipe inside, oil up the new filter, put the pipe back in, put > >> the > >> new filter in, put the cap back on, don't over-torque the bolts on > >> the > >> cover. But there are some posts and forums that talk about "the > >> spring". I have a spring, but it appears to be captured inside the > >> > >> pipe, captured by a pin. Is this a new design or something? And > >> the > >> schematic shows the "narrow end" going towards the engine, but how > >> does > >> it seal to the cover? Or does it? > > *** The oil filter seals both ends of the tube. Oil goes in the > outside > > of the filter and then enters the tube through the holes in the > middle of > > the tube. If the filter is clogged oil pressure will build and > > unfiltered oil will push the plunger in the end of the tube down > enough > > to allow oil to pass through the holes at the end of the tube, > along the > > outside of the tube inside the filter and then into the tube > below the > > plunger. > > > > > >> DATA: > >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust > >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.18 > >> Shim 250 Shim 250 > >> > >> > >> Left Intake Right Intake > >> Meas. 0.17 Meas. 0.16 > >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > > *** I work in inches as it's easier for me. It's the way "I" think. > > > > Clearances are > > Exhaust 0.15-0.25mm or 0.006"-0.010" > > Intake 0.10-0.20mm or 0.004"-0.008" > > > > So your data is... > > > >> DATA in INCHES: > >> Left Exhaust Right Exhaust > >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.007" > >> Shim 250 Shim 250 > >> > >> Left Intake Right Intake > >> Meas. 0.007" Meas. 0.006" > >> Shim 250 Shim 260 > > ***shim size changes equal 0.002" per size change available. > > So changing the two exhaust shims to 245 will give you 0.009" > clearance > > which is the best you can get. > > Changing the left intake will put the clearance too wide so stay the > > same. Change the right intake one shim size (use one of the exhaust > > shims you are taking out) will give you 0.008" which is perfect. > > > >> I have purchased two 245 shims for he exhausts from Fred. My dealer > >> > >> says everybody needs 245 shims and nobody has them. The dealer says > >> > >> "try later next week". What great service! > >> > >> If anybody has any good ideas for me, I'd love to hear them. I > >> think > >> I'm sort of "on hold" until the shims show up. > > *** The last couple of times I've tried to get a 245 shim from > my dealer > > they didn't have them either. My suggestion is to try a BMW > motorcycle > > dealer and ask for the shim for a 1999 F650. Take a shim with you to > > make sure you get a shim that is 29mm diameter and not one of > the ones > > that is 29.5mm in diameter. I've also been told a Ford car (I > think it's > > the Tarus) uses the same size shim but I've never checked to see for > > sure. > > > > If you are desperate you could take the shims to a machine shop > and ask > > them to surface grind it to 2.45mm or 0.0965" thick. Ask them to > grind > > on the side with the numbers on it. Then install and put the surface > > ground side down when installing in the bucket. Use a 250 shim > so they > > are only grinding 0.002" off it. Then buy a 250 from the dealer > to fit > > the intake that needs a 250. > > > >> Cheers! > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > >> +1 916 966 9060 > >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > <><><><><><> > > <><><><><><> > > . > > . > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Get Free Email with Video Mail& Video Chat! > > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:28:17 -0700 RobertWichert writes:

> Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right > stuff, > Jeff? > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Robert, Yes that is the stuff I use. Kind of expensive but a little goes a very long way. It is applied very lightly. I put the tube on a light bulb and let it warm for 3-5 minutes. Then I put it on so thin I can see through it. If it's warm enough you can apply it with an acid brush. Make sure not to leave any bristles from the brush in the sealant. It's also a cancer causing agent I've been told. I usually use my finger with it but would not be above putting on latex or nitrile gloves and using them depending on the application. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fb0229196e4a11bfe01st03vuc

[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:15:17 -0700 (PDT) mark ward writes:

> It's what Nascar etc use. > > --- On Sun, 5/13/12, RobertWichert wrote: > > Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right > stuff, > Jeff?

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> I believe it was developed for Rolls Royce aircraft engines. For years it was also a sealant of choice for many airhead mechanics sealing cylinder bases to engine cases. I think now many prefer Yamabond 4 or Ultra Gray. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fb024411cc8211c2563st02vuc

[RobertWichert]

Cancer? No kidding. I won't eat or smoke it though, and my fingers are probably immune unless it is some sort of nerve agent. Thanks! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/13/2012 2:04 PM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:28:17 -0700 RobertWichert > writes: >> Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right >> stuff, >> Jeff? >> >> >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > > Robert, > > Yes that is the stuff I use. Kind of expensive but a little goes a very > long way. > > It is applied very lightly. I put the tube on a light bulb and let it > warm for 3-5 minutes. Then I put it on so thin I can see through it. If > it's warm enough you can apply it with an acid brush. Make sure not to > leave any bristles from the brush in the sealant. > > It's also a cancer causing agent I've been told. I usually use my finger > with it but would not be above putting on latex or nitrile gloves and > using them depending on the application. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > . > . > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fb02291ab1fe11c3cbfst04vuc > > >

[mechanizeinc]

Plus @ Yamabond or Hondabond. I'm lucky because my office is near three cycle shops if you include cycle gear: The only place I buy foam air filter cleaner and oil kits, s200 bike wash, Yamabond non-dry'n, fork oil, chain lube, and dri-slide Mech

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:15:17 -0700 (PDT) mark ward > writes: > > It's what Nascar etc use. > > > > --- On Sun, 5/13/12, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > Hylomar Blue? Permatex claims to sell it too. Is that the right > > stuff, > > Jeff? > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > > I believe it was developed for Rolls Royce aircraft engines. > > For years it was also a sealant of choice for many airhead mechanics > sealing cylinder bases to engine cases. I think now many prefer Yamabond > 4 or Ultra Gray. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > . > . > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fb024411cc8211c2563st02vuc >