problems at start up after sitting - update
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In March's edition of the "Rider" magazine, they have a Diesel KLR .. hmmm very intresting. page 63
Also for everyone that has a 2000 model like I do, and feels that people are laughing at our GREEN bikes, Check out the Army colours, even the wheels are green ... Thank you Army
Plus on page 73, theres an article, titled "El Paso to the Sea" I see at least 5 KlR's o these pages.
Happily reading
Dave
Salem OR
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TLrydr@... wrote:
[diesel KLR]
If only the cylinder block and head are the main mechanical changes then I have doubts that the stock bottom end and cases will hold up. They just not designed for that kind of stress.> The cylinder and head are replaced to convert the KLR to diesel, Also it > is fuel injection,,, So where is the stock Carbs and cylinders at,,, This > could be a plus for anyone wanting to Port and play with a big bore kit on a > KLR....
Yeah, seemed like a good idea at the time, for a little while. The SB Chev is a versatile engine, but not _that_ versatile. Mister_T> Anyone rember when GM built a diesel around a gas engine block, Can we > all say MAJOR headache, What a POS....
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http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml
Has this been discussed before?
Anyone know:
- what the diesel conversion entails - I guess at least a different head
- whether joe public can buy one of these
- contact for (Fred) Hayes Diversified Technologies (HDT) of Hesperia, CA
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This was debated for a long time on the thumper page. The consensus (and
I agree) was that paying a lot more money, for more torque, more range,
and a lot less horsepower is a trade-off that only makes sense if you
can't get gasoline.
Someone had mentioned that the US Navy will no longer transport
automotive gasoline in a few years, flammability issues. Can anyone
confirm this?
The bike in the video appears to have a KLR right side engine cover, the
question is what's inside? While the KLR seems fairly bulletproof, I
don't think that the stock crank and starter would be too happy with
20:1 compression or so. Unless they've found a way to use diesel without
such high compression. Not sure if the dirty clouds in the video are
dust, or if they came out of the exhaust pipe.
Enfield (of India) makes a diesel bike, they get a small German diesel,
put it into a 1955 Enfield frame, and there you go. 12hp or so, but it
gets insane fuel mileage. Considering you are in a place where the fuel
will never get cold enough to gel, and you can't go fast anyway because
of the road conditions and congestion, it probably sells well.
Devon
A15
78 SR500
81 SR500
"Jonathan Sykes (SWUS)" wrote:
> > http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml > > Has this been discussed before? > > Anyone know: > > - what the diesel conversion entails - I guess at least a different head > > - whether joe public can buy one of these > > - contact for (Fred) Hayes Diversified Technologies (HDT) of Hesperia, CA > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Jonathan Sykes (SWUS) wrote:
It must have about a year or more ago that this first buzzed through the motorcycle world. I have grave doubts about the viability of converting the KLR motor, but I am willing to be proved wrong. Mister_T> http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml > Has this been discussed before?
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I don't believe this is a "conversion" of the stock motor as engine
design varies greatly from gas to diesel. (Remember GMs fantastic
work trying this 'conversion' approach in the 1970s? That famous
Detroit Piece of Crap is the reason why Europeans buy 5 Million
diesel powered cars every year but there are none in the USA - go
test drive a new diesel VW and you will be convinced!) Far more
likely is the refit of a single cylinder diesel of similar size.
Kawasaki Industries makes a large number of diesel engines and in
fact offers a diesel option on their "Mule" brand utility vehicle
(like a John Deere 'Gator'.) The torque should be outstanding, fuel
injected to boot! Must get 80 MPG - plus diesel fuel is cheaper than
unleaded. I saw an article once where a guy had modified a Harley
with a 3 cylinder diesel generator engine he salvaged from a welding
machine.
Jonathan Sykes (SWUS) wrote:
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml>
It must have about a year or more ago that this first buzzed through the motorcycle world. I have grave doubts about the viability of converting the KLR motor, but I am willing to be proved wrong. Mister_T> Has this been discussed before?
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From a military standpoint, it is a great idea. The technology is
there, I mean Polaris(?) has a diesel ATV. I don't think the KLR
motor is beefy enough for the pressures diesels work at, the stresses
on the cases and head would be just too great. It would have to be a
complete redesign.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Ted Palmer wrote: > Jonathan Sykes (SWUS) wrote: > > > http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml > > Has this been discussed before? > > It must have about a year or more ago that this first buzzed through > the motorcycle world. > > I have grave doubts about the viability of converting the KLR motor, > but I am willing to be proved wrong. > > Mister_T
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Someone on the list (Kurt?) had contacted Hayes Diversified
(the company doing the conversion), it was a conversion (new
head, cyl. sleeve, piston, rod, crank, etc.) working out to
(I think) around 500cc (smaller bore,long stroke), making
half the hp and nearly 3 times the torque as the stock engine.
Yes, the GM 350 diesel was a piece of crap, but it did work,
not great, but it did work. Need to find a 700cc Cummins Turbo
single, and some anchor chain for a drive chain.
"Swede"
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., tismybutt@y... wrote: > From a military standpoint, it is a great idea. The technology is > there, I mean Polaris(?) has a diesel ATV. I don't think the KLR > motor is beefy enough for the pressures diesels work at, the stresses > on the cases and head would be just too great. It would have to be a > complete redesign.
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I feel sorry for the sap who has to drive a KLR with 7.1 (IMS military tank size) gallons of diesel fuel on top (diesel fuel is heavier than gasoline). But I guess it beats humping your pack the old-fashioned way. I know how _that_ goes. Gerret>The torque should be outstanding, fuel injected to boot! >Must get 80 MPG - plus diesel fuel is cheaper than unleaded. > Mister_T
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In a message dated 7/13/01 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
michiganmosers@... writes:
<< I don't believe this is a "conversion" of the stock motor as engine
design varies greatly from gas to diesel. >>
The info I've gotten is that the stock bottom end and cylinder are being
used. The KLR crank assembly is very robust with large very high quality
bearings. The engine cases have steel inserts that carry the crank bearings.
During my rebuild I replaced all my tranny and balancer bearings with the
best quality bearings I could find (turned out to be made in France) and I
also asked the local bearing house about the crank bearings, based on the
numbers stamped into them I was told that these are the highest quality
bearings of their type available.
Also the photos of the KLR diesel make it pretty clear that it is based on
the stock motor.
Regards,
Kurt Grife
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