pcv mod

[Stuart Mumford]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Stuart Mumford" wrote:

> CA Stu Hey now! Hold on just one dog-gone minute. All I did was ask a >question. >Gino

No sir, you also ran over my favorite hat. CA Stu

[Michael Silverstein]

I'm thinking of buying a GPS like the Garmin 2620 or Quest for a trip through the South West (New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, etc.). Does the mapping software that comes with these include dirt roads and jeep trails or is it all main (paved) roads? I'm hoping to spend a lot of the trip off paved roads and it would be nice to be able to have the GPS unit lead me instead of having to gather together lots of detailed maps. Thanks, Mike A18 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 3/12/2005 5:11:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, msilverstein@... writes: I'm thinking of buying a GPS like the Garmin 2620 or Quest for a trip through the South West (New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, etc.). Does the mapping software that comes with these include dirt roads and jeep trails or is it all main (paved) roads? I'm hoping to spend a lot of the trip off paved roads and it would be nice to be able to have the GPS unit lead me instead of having to gather together lots of detailed maps. Thanks, Mike A18 One alternative I've found that works for me is to carry the DeLorme Gazetteers and my handheld Garmin eTrex. The Gazetteer has GPS coordinates overlaid on the maps so off road I can always place where I am and easily catch the bigger picture at the same time - if any of you get Rider magazine I'm referring to Salvador's latest column on GPS vs MAP. I tired this out on the AMA Colorado Tour a couple of years ago. With the touring gear it was no problem to find a spot to slip in the Nevada, Utah and Colorado Gazetteers. At night I'd pull them out, figure the next day's route, make a few notes to write on the back of an old roll chart to provide the next day's directions - after a DS ride I'll wind the last chart on so the unused side faces up and then use it for writing the day's route chart. During my off road excursions, as I would free lance the route from time to time I'd stop, pull out the eTrex to get a location I could point to in the Gazetteer, and even though the maps lacked road details (they do show the major dirt roads/jeep trails) they have enough topo info I could always look at the map and then back out the lay of the land and could figure which way to head. Pat G'ville, NV [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gary Parece]

I did this trip last year with a GPS and a bunch of maps. You don't need a GPS if you get enough paper maps from the BLM area's that you plan on visiting and you can also use a bicycle maps for moab if you want to do the white rim ( they have them in all the stores in moab). The gps is nice for traveling, I've been using one for many years during my Ironbutt years and still use for all my long distance runs but their are a lot of good topo maps of that area , witch BTW can run into some $ but I think their more of a must have than a GPS. Gary Parece 98 concours 102K, ,01 KLR650 9K 04 WR250F ,04 H-D Road King

----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR GPS > > > In a message dated 3/12/2005 5:11:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > msilverstein@... writes: > > > I'm thinking of buying a GPS like the Garmin 2620 or Quest for a trip > through the South West (New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, etc.). Does the > mapping software that comes with these include dirt roads and jeep > trails or is it all main (paved) roads? I'm hoping to spend a lot of the > trip off paved roads and it would be nice to be able to have the GPS > unit lead me instead of having to gather together lots of detailed maps. > > Thanks, Mike A18 > > > > > > One alternative I've found that works for me is to carry the DeLorme > Gazetteers and my handheld Garmin eTrex. The Gazetteer has GPS > coordinates overlaid > on the maps so off road I can always place where I am and easily catch > the > bigger picture at the same time - if any of you get Rider magazine I'm > referring to Salvador's latest column on GPS vs MAP. > > I tired this out on the AMA Colorado Tour a couple of years ago. With the > touring gear it was no problem to find a spot to slip in the Nevada, Utah > and > Colorado Gazetteers. At night I'd pull them out, figure the next day's > route, > make a few notes to write on the back of an old roll chart to provide the > next day's directions - after a DS ride I'll wind the last chart on so the > unused side faces up and then use it for writing the day's route chart. > During my > off road excursions, as I would free lance the route from time to time I'd > stop, pull out the eTrex to get a location I could point to in the > Gazetteer, > and even though the maps lacked road details (they do show the major dirt > roads/jeep trails) they have enough topo info I could always look at the > map and > then back out the lay of the land and could figure which way to head. > > Pat > G'ville, NV > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

[Michael Silverstein]

Thanks for the tips. Maps might be an option but this trip is going to be an escape from my normal life of having to think all day doing software development. Call me lazy but I'll be a lot happier if I can find a gadget that will allow me to turn off my brain and just ride all day. If that's not possible the topo maps and Delorme Gazetteer sounds like a good approach. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Parece [mailto:garyp4357@...] > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:23 AM > To: msilverstein@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > kdxkawboy@... > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR GPS > > > > I did this trip last year with a GPS and a bunch of maps. You > don't need a > GPS if you get enough paper maps from the BLM area's that you plan on > visiting and you can also use a bicycle maps for moab if you > want to do the > white rim ( they have them in all the stores in moab). > The gps is nice for traveling, I've been using one for > many years during > my Ironbutt years and still use for all my long distance runs > but their are > a lot of good topo maps of that area , witch BTW can run into > some $ but I > think their more of a must have than a GPS. > Gary Parece > 98 concours 102K, ,01 KLR650 9K > 04 WR250F ,04 H-D Road King > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR GPS > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/12/2005 5:11:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > msilverstein@... writes: > > > > > > I'm thinking of buying a GPS like the Garmin 2620 or Quest > for a trip > > through the South West (New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, etc.). Does the > > mapping software that comes with these include dirt roads and jeep > > trails or is it all main (paved) roads? I'm hoping to > spend a lot of > > the trip off paved roads and it would be nice to be able > to have the > > GPS unit lead me instead of having to gather together lots of > > detailed maps. > > > > Thanks, Mike A18 > > > > > > > > > > > > One alternative I've found that works for me is to carry > the DeLorme > > Gazetteers and my handheld Garmin eTrex. The Gazetteer has GPS > > coordinates overlaid on the maps so off road I can always > place where > > I am and easily catch the > > bigger picture at the same time - if any of you get Rider > magazine I'm > > referring to Salvador's latest column on GPS vs MAP. > > > > I tired this out on the AMA Colorado Tour a couple of years > ago. With > > the touring gear it was no problem to find a spot to slip in the > > Nevada, Utah and Colorado Gazetteers. At night I'd pull them out, > > figure the next day's route, > > make a few notes to write on the back of an old roll chart > to provide the > > next day's directions - after a DS ride I'll wind the last > chart on so the > > unused side faces up and then use it for writing the day's > route chart. > > During my > > off road excursions, as I would free lance the route from > time to time I'd > > stop, pull out the eTrex to get a location I could point to in the > > Gazetteer, > > and even though the maps lacked road details (they do show > the major dirt > > roads/jeep trails) they have enough topo info I could > always look at the > > map and > > then back out the lay of the land and could figure which > way to head. > > > > Pat > > G'ville, NV

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[robert bowman]

On Saturday 12 March 2005 11:08, Mike A18 wrote:

> Does the > mapping software that comes with these include dirt roads and jeep > trails or is it all main (paved) roads?

The further you get from pavement, the less likely the dataset has been revised recently. In Montana, I've seen imaginary roads, missing bridges, new roads and so forth. Particularly for NF land, the current forest map will have closure information that may come in handy.

[cpf3@Escapees.com]

The "Base" maps, included with mapping GPS units are almost useless. That said, the more expensive the GPS, the more features and the better the "Base" map. I use a Garmin eTrex Legend and upload maps from the Garmin MapSource "Roads & Recreation" CD. Check out http://www.gpsinformation.net/>. This is a great site for GPS info and reviews of individual units. Chuck (Currently bikeless...but looking) -------------------------------------------------------------- (Please reply to: Cpf3@...) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

KLR Listers, A few days ago someone was asking about GPSes and where to get them. I got an eTrex Legend and it works well for me for geocaching (see www.geocaching.com ). I recently bought some mounts for it for my ATV, KLR and Jeep. I got RAM mounts from www.cycoactive.com and I'm very happy with the service they provided and the quality of the RAM mounts. Next purchase is a power cord. I'm using eBay for that as the cost is way lower than anywhere else I can find. If I was buying my Legend again I'd probably not be in a rush and would use eBay. They have some very good deals on new and used. For whatever its worth I paid $106 for a new Legend using a special promotional offer from www.amazon.com . Now that was a killer deal. : ) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Eddie]

Got bored yesterday and decided to do the PCV mod on my 09'. Luckily, there is an O'Reily's auto parts store within walking distance. The guys there have seen the KLR and were happy to help by letting me pick through their box of PCV valves. The assistant manager was having as much fun as I was and even gave me a short length of 3/8 hose to cut up to adapt the smaller connections on the valve to the inner diameter of the vent pipe from the bike. With a little trimming of the inlet & outlets and verification of where/how much I needed to cut out of the OEM pipe, the mod went together rather easily. The parts were $1.99 for the PCV valve {house brand equiv. of a Fram FV185A *} and $2.99 for a pack of four 3/8-7/8 inch hose clamps (only used 2 of them). The clamps were oh-so-barely big enough. But, the upside to that is I don't have a sharp clamp band sticking out to cut me later. =) My bike wasn't using a lot of oil. But, I was adding a little every now and then after longer rides. We'll see what happens now. I didn't take any pictures. But, I can and send 'em off list to anyone interested. eddie transalp1@... * Note: The valve had a plastic, right-angle tube stuck on one end. I removed the plastic tube, which exposed an all-metal pipe to which I fitted a 1/2 in. piece of 3/8 hose before inserting it in the OEM pipe. The other end of the valve was slightly larger and had a 'shoulder' to help hold it in place in the intended application. The shoulder was too big to fit inside the 3/8 adapter hose. So, I Dremeled the very end off to give me a uniform diameter connection which fit the 3/8 hose very snugly. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]