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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote:
Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr
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Your flat in your driveway would have been the perfect time to teach yourself how to change a tire. Changing a tire out on the road or away from your shop is never easier. I can break just about any bead with one 8 1/2" tire lever. Use the straight end and wiggle it between the tire and the rim. This will move that one spot out about 1/16". Hold this down with your knee and move the lever to a spot about 3" away and do this again. You'll need to do this for at least a foot or so and then go back over the same spots you just did a few times. The tire bead will eventually come loose. Don't expect the tire bead to jump off with one use of your tire levers. If it becomes work, you are not doing it right. Little by little is the key.
Fred
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
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Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr>
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--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cb750fs" wrote:
~~~If you have the beads broken and you are still struggling getting the tire off the rim, more than likely where you are running into trouble is, you're not getting/keeping the opposing tire beads in the center deep portion of the rim Step back and take a look at how your rims are constructed. Notice how the center is raised on the outside (middle) of the rim? With the tire beads broken, look at how the center of the rim on the *inside* of the rim is deeper than the sides. This is so that you have a leverage vantage point What you want to do is have the tire portion you're not working on, the beads of the tire in that center well. Does that make sense to you? By placing the beads in that well, you have that much less length of tire to fight. Get the tire beads in that well and you'll have more tire to work over the rim (leverage) I've been R&Ring my own motorcycle tires since 1975 and I've done everything wrong, including using screw drivers as tire levers (poked some nice holes in the tube). Some of us have to do it wrong before we get it right, and that's where you are at right now Hre's a couple of nice products that will help you to get the tire in the center portion of the rim http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0388 http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0471/ Barring that (having these tools), a helper is useful but you must keep the bead in the center of the rim to get the opposing side of the tire off the rim. If you live anywhere near north central Fla., come on over and I'll show you how it's done Jake Reddick Fla. Forget Dogs and Cats, Spay and Neuter Liberals Partnership for a Liberal-Free America http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > > > > > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). > Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. > Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. > I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr >
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I can say Fred knows how to take off tires. He has shown me a couple of times, even though before he starts I tell him it won't work. I use Mefo tires here in Colorado and they almost fall off the rim. When my wife and I traveled in Mexico/Central America for 3 months a few years ago, I had a slow leak I couldn't find. I had Gripsters on our bikes for this trip. I tried and tried to get the tire off one day and couldn't do it. I went to a shop and they had a hard time with their pneumatic equipment. The tube got replaced but I ended up having a slow leak for 6 weeks. When I got back to Fred's shop, he showed me again, how to get the tire off. Even with the really, really stuck on hard bead of the Gripster, Fred used one tire iron and slowly, ever so slowly, gently worked his iron around the tire and got the bead down far enough to be able to use the iron to break the bead.
I have since done tire changing seminars for other bikers, many who carry lots of bead breaking tools, showing how 2 tire iron can get a tire off ( I have to use 2 because I am not Fred Hink.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > Your flat in your driveway would have been the perfect time to teach yourself how to change a tire. Changing a tire out on the road or away from your shop is never easier. I can break just about any bead with one 8 1/2" tire lever. Use the straight end and wiggle it between the tire and the rim. This will move that one spot out about 1/16". Hold this down with your knee and move the lever to a spot about 3" away and do this again. You'll need to do this for at least a foot or so and then go back over the same spots you just did a few times. The tire bead will eventually come loose. Don't expect the tire bead to jump off with one use of your tire levers. If it becomes work, you are not doing it right. Little by little is the key. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > > From: cb750fs > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:23 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The proper way to use tire irons > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > > > > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). > Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. > Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. > I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr >
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Them Mefos are mo-fos and so are TrailWings.
Mech
Who can scar up a nice rim with a set of irons like all three of the Stooges combined.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cb750fs" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > > > > > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). > Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. > Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. > I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr >
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I have learned a couple of methods for breaking beads with tire levers. One uses a single spoon twisted by using another tire lever through the looped handle. The other uses three levers of any configuration, placed close together with an end between the tire and rim. Push down on the outer two levers to pull the sidewall away from the rim and to put downward pressure on it. Pull up on the center lever, using the edge of the rim as a fulcrum. The head of the lever will pull the bead away from the rim.
Both of these methods work incrementally, a little bit at a time. Both work better if you apply a bit of wd40 to the bead. Once the lube works its way under the bead, everything moves more quickly.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > Your flat in your driveway would have been the perfect time to teach yourself how to change a tire. Changing a tire out on the road or away from your shop is never easier. I can break just about any bead with one 8 1/2" tire lever. Use the straight end and wiggle it between the tire and the rim. This will move that one spot out about 1/16". Hold this down with your knee and move the lever to a spot about 3" away and do this again. You'll need to do this for at least a foot or so and then go back over the same spots you just did a few times. The tire bead will eventually come loose. Don't expect the tire bead to jump off with one use of your tire levers. If it becomes work, you are not doing it right. Little by little is the key. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > > From: cb750fs > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:23 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The proper way to use tire irons > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > > > > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). > Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. > Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. > I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote:
Those Bead Buddy tools can be helpful, but the key is simply to remember to push the beads down in the drop center of the rim. You can use your knee if you have to. I don't often have to use a Bead Buddy, I just look at it. It sounds corny, but your brain is the most important tool of all.> Hre's a couple of nice products that will help you to get the tire in the center portion of the rim > > > http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0388 > > http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0471/ > > > Barring that (having these tools), a helper is useful but you must keep the bead in the center of the rim to get the opposing side of the tire off the rim. If you live anywhere near north central Fla., come on over and I'll show you how it's done > >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cb750fs" wrote:
~~~If you have the beads broken and you are still struggling getting the tire off the rim, more than likely where you are running into trouble is, you're not getting/keeping the opposing tire beads in the center deep portion of the rim Step back and take a look at how your rims are constructed. Notice how the center is raised on the outside (middle) of the rim? With the tire beads broken, look at how the center of the rim on the *inside* of the rim is deeper than the sides. This is so that you have a leverage vantage point What you want to do is have the tire portion you're not working on, the beads of the tire in that center well. Does that make sense to you? By placing the beads in that well, you have that much less length of tire to fight. Get the tire beads in that well and you'll have more tire to work over the rim (leverage) I've been R&Ring my own motorcycle tires since 1975 and I've done everything wrong, including using screw drivers as tire levers (poked some nice holes in the tube). Some of us have to do it wrong before we get it right, and that's where you are at right now Hre's a couple of nice products that will help you to get the tire in the center portion of the rim http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0388 http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0471/ Barring that (having these tools), a helper is useful but you must keep the bead in the center of the rim to get the opposing side of the tire off the rim. If you live anywhere near north central Fla., come on over and I'll show you how it's done Jake Reddick Fla. Forget Dogs and Cats, Spay and Neuter Liberals Partnership for a Liberal-Free America http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ > > > > > Two weeks ago I had a front tire go flat on me, luckily I haven`t made it out of my drive way yet. I fixed it by the lazy man method (took the tire to the shop and had them fix it). > Yesterday my rear tire went flat, (WTF?-never had a flat before, now 2 in two weeks?)out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily, my buddy answered his phone and he fetched me my new trailer. > Today I decided it was time for me to learn how to fix a flat on my own. > I couldn`t do anything. The Three Stooges could have done a better job than me. I couldn`t get that Mefo off the rim for nothing. I used a 5 inch C-clamp to break the bead, used two big tire irons, and rim protectors. I was doing more harm than good. So I guess I`ll op`d out for the lazy man method again tomarrow. Grrr >
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