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[Sportygil]

[b]I have been looking at two[/b] [b]very low mileage KLR's[/b] [b]1, 1700 miles[/b] [b]2, 1900 miles[/b] [b]both while in new condition[/b] [b]have had to change rear tires[/b] [b]Is that normal?[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Sportygil[/b]

[RobertWichert]

I am on my third rear tire with ~10,000 miles. The stock rear went at about 5,000 (nail flat - still had tread) and the TKC 80 lasted another 3,500 (still had tread). I can't imagine wearing out the stock rear tire that quickly, unless it was doing burnouts. It is more likely that they wanted something more street or more dirt, so they changed them. What's on them now? Robert Wichert ======================================= Sportygil wrote:

> *I have been looking at two* > *very low mileage KLR's* > *1, 1700 miles* > *2, 1900 miles* > *both while in new condition* > *have had to change rear tires* > *Is that normal?* > ** > *Sportygil* >

[dooden]

I got 2,700 I think outta the OEM rear, and it was pretty thin when it came off. Seemed like I could see wear after one ride offroad, but it paddled alot getting through things. Tires are like underwear, everybody has a preference as to what type to use. Kenda 270's are fairly cheap and perform well for my riding, but not alot of long trips, I tend to keep them a tad low on air cause I can go from pavement to muck to gravel to sand pretty much just going for a ride. Currently have a K-270 on the rear and a Dunlop D-606 on the front, I like the Dunlop, but only cause at the time the Kenda was backordered and a shop down the road had a Dunlop on the rack he gave me for cost. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sportygil" wrote: > > I have been looking at two > very low mileage KLR's > 1, 1700 miles > 2, 1900 miles > both while in new condition > have had to change rear tires > Is that normal? > > Sportygil >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sportygil" wrote:

> > I have been looking at two > very low mileage KLR's > 1, 1700 miles > 2, 1900 miles > both while in new condition > have had to change rear tires > Is that normal? > > Sportygil >

Sport-- The OEM tires are very soft and will go away very quickly-- More quickly if set to 22psi and road on the highway, spiritedly. New tires on a low mileage bike does not always suggest abuse-- There are those who change out this tire right out of the shop. You see the take-offs for sale on ebay and elsewhere. OTH-- Some have said, they got less than 1000 street miles on the OEM tires, others got ~5K. shrug. A matter of where the tire has been, and who took it down the road. It is also a matter of what the rider thinks is safe. 2/32+ min for me, others ride till they are bare-naked-rubber in the middle, and the middle is a 2 inches wide/racing slick. shrug. Of course, there are those who might do burn-offs, but you would see tire residue somewhere in the fender/shock area--no matter how carefully someone washed the bike. The nature of your observation and question; mileage vs tire vs abuse indicates you are a comprehensive shopper--look for the other signs of abuse/neglect and make your decision. Overall, if the tires were truly 2/32 and then replaced, it is a little short for mileage, but not likely anything to be (overly) concerned about. Shoot, be grateful that they have new tires. If truly 'new', you should be good to go for another 4-5K miles (if you don't do Burger King burnouts). before buying new tires. revmaaatin. who was grateful for 33F temps today' -17F yesterday. How about you?

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-273618727 p {margin:0;}I got 5,800 miles out of my OEM rear with mainly slab riding with some fire trails thrown in here and there.  I always keep my pressure up when on the street and I'm not the most heavy-handed rider, but I'm not a slowpoke either. I have just over 11,000 on my '09 now and my second rear tire, a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara is getting thin, but there's still some tread left.  I'll probably replace it next month.  The front is badly feathered from all the slab riding I do, so it will be replaced as well. I'll probably be going with a more street-oriented tire, like the K761 or the Shinko 705 just to try them out and see what they're like.  I've never run cheap tires on a bike before so this will be an experience.  They are both a 70/30 or so tire and that better matches my (recent) riding patterns. I also recently installed  a power port so I can use my compressor when trail riding, so airing down for the trail and back up when I'm done will be easier and may compensate for the street-y tread pattern. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sportygil" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:16:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires   [b]I have been looking at two[/b] [b]very low mileage KLR's[/b] [b]1, 1700 miles[/b] [b]2, 1900 miles[/b] [b]both while in new condition[/b] [b]have had to change rear tires[/b] [b]Is that normal?[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Sportygil[/b]

[Mike Frey]

The OEM tire on my California KLR was worn out at 2,000 miles. The OEM tire on my Pennsylvania KLR wore out at 4,000 miles. Aside from one of them being a 2006 and the other a 2004 model, there is little difference in my riding style from one to the other. Maybe CA has more abrasive road surfaces...? The PA bike now has Cheng Shin C-858s on it. Looks like the rear will only make it to about 2500 miles. The CA bike has Kenda K270 rear on it.

On 1/11/2010 11:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: I got 5,800 miles out of my OEM rear with mainly slab riding with some fire trails thrown in here and there. I always keep my pressure up when on the street and I'm not the most heavy-handed rider, but I'm not a slowpoke either. I have just over 11,000 on my '09 now and my second rear tire, a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara is getting thin, but there's still some tread left. I'll probably replace it next month. The front is badly feathered from all the slab riding I do, so it will be replaced as well. I'll probably be going with a more street-oriented tire, like the K761 or the Shinko 705 just to try them out and see what they're like. I've never run cheap tires on a bike before so this will be an experience. They are both a 70/30 or so tire and that better matches my (recent) riding patterns. I also recently installed a power port so I can use my compressor when trail riding, so airing down for the trail and back up when I'm done will be easier and may compensate for the street-y tread pattern. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sportygil" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:16:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires [b]I have been looking at two[/b] [b]very low mileage KLR's[/b] [b]1, 1700 miles[/b] [b]2, 1900 miles[/b] [b]both while in new condition[/b] [b]have had to change rear tires[/b] [b]Is that normal?[/b] [b][/b] [b]Sportygil[/b]

[Jud]

I bought my '98 in early 2002 with 4000 miles on it and a brand new Kenda K270, which leads me to believe the original rear went no longer than 4k. The Kenda went 10k. I got similar life out of two more, for an average of about 9500 miles.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sportygil" wrote: > > I have been looking at two > very low mileage KLR's > 1, 1700 miles > 2, 1900 miles > both while in new condition > have had to change rear tires > Is that normal? > > Sportygil >

[Mike Frey]

San Joaquin Valley (Fresno area), but most of my rides take me to the coastal range and Sierras. Aside from the arrow straight roads in the valley, the riding out there is similar to riding in PA - lots of twisties when you are in the hills. The big difference is that the CA mountains are much bigger than the PA mountains. You'll get to 3,000 feet easy enough in either state, but PA's mountains end there. CA mountains keep going up!

On 1/11/2010 12:54 PM, Carla Williamson wrote: What part of CA as there is beach, desert, mountains, country, and also northern & souther CA and depending on where you were doing the main portion of your riding can make a difference on tire wear? [i][color=#000000][b][/b][/i][i][/i][/color] Carla [i][b][/b][/i] [i][b]If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around[/b][/i] [i][b][/b][/i] [i][b]C&J[/b][/i] [b][i]Surprise, AZ[/i][/b] [b]From:[/b] Mike Frey mike21b@... [b]To:[/b] List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, January 11, 2010 10:12:37 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires The OEM tire on my California KLR was worn out at 2,000 miles. The OEM tire on my Pennsylvania KLR wore out at 4,000 miles. Aside from one of them being a 2006 and the other a 2004 model, there is little difference in my riding style from one to the other. Maybe CA has more abrasive road surfaces....? The PA bike now has Cheng Shin C-858s on it. Looks like the rear will only make it to about 2500 miles. The CA bike has Kenda K270 rear on it. On 1/11/2010 11:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: I got 5,800 miles out of my OEM rear with mainly slab riding with some fire trails thrown in here and there. I always keep my pressure up when on the street and I'm not the most heavy-handed rider, but I'm not a slowpoke either. I have just over 11,000 on my '09 now and my second rear tire, a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara is getting thin, but there's still some tread left. I'll probably replace it next month. The front is badly feathered from all the slab riding I do, so it will be replaced as well. I'll probably be going with a more street-oriented tire, like the K761 or the Shinko 705 just to try them out and see what they're like. I've never run cheap tires on a bike before so this will be an experience. They are both a 70/30 or so tire and that better matches my (recent) riding patterns. I also recently installed a power port so I can use my compressor when trail riding, so airing down for the trail and back up when I'm done will be easier and may compensate for the street-y tread pattern. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sportygil" k.net> To: "DSN KLR650" ups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:16:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires [b]I have been looking at two[/b] [b]very low mileage KLR's[/b] [b]1, 1700 miles[/b] [b]2, 1900 miles[/b] [b]both while in new condition[/b] [b]have had to change rear tires[/b] [b]Is that normal?[/b] [b][/b] [b]Sportygil[/b]

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-244806251 p {margin:0;}Heck, in some places 3,000 ft is the valley floor. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Frey" To: "Carla Williamson" , "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:36:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires   San Joaquin Valley (Fresno area), but most of my rides take me to the coastal range and Sierras. Aside from the arrow straight roads in the valley, the riding out there is similar to riding in PA - lots of twisties when you are in the hills. The big difference is that the CA mountains are much bigger than the PA mountains.  You'll get to 3,000 feet easy enough in either state, but PA's mountains end there. CA mountains keep going up! On 1/11/2010 12:54 PM, Carla Williamson wrote: [quote] What part of CA as there is beach, desert, mountains, country, and also northern & souther CA and depending on where you were doing the main portion of your riding can make a difference on tire wear?  [i][color=#000000][b][/b][/i][i][/i][/color]  Carla [i][b][/b][/i]  [i][b]If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around[/b][/i] [i][b][/b][/i]  [i][b]C&J[/b][/i] [b][i]Surprise, AZ[/i][/b]  [b]From:[/b] Mike Frey mike21b@... [b]To:[/b] List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, January 11, 2010 10:12:37 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires   The OEM tire on my California KLR was worn out at 2,000 miles. The OEM tire on my Pennsylvania KLR wore out at 4,000 miles. Aside from one of them being a 2006 and the other a 2004 model, there is little difference in my riding style from one to the other. Maybe CA has more abrasive road surfaces....? The PA bike now has Cheng Shin C-858s on it. Looks like the rear will only make it to about 2500 miles. The CA bike has Kenda K270 rear on it. On 1/11/2010 11:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote:   I got 5,800 miles out of my OEM rear with mainly slab riding with some fire trails thrown in here and there.  I always keep my pressure up when on the street and I'm not the most heavy-handed rider, but I'm not a slowpoke either. I have just over 11,000 on my '09 now and my second rear tire, a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara is getting thin, but there's still some tread left.  I'll probably replace it next month.  The front is badly feathered from all the slab riding I do, so it will be replaced as well. I'll probably be going with a more street-oriented tire, like the K761 or the Shinko 705 just to try them out and see what they're like.  I've never run cheap tires on a bike before so this will be an experience.  They are both a 70/30 or so tire and that better matches my (recent) riding patterns. I also recently installed  a power port so I can use my compressor when trail riding, so airing down for the trail and back up when I'm done will be easier and may compensate for the street-y tread pattern. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sportygil" k.net> To: "DSN KLR650" ups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:16:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires   [b]I have been looking at two[/b] [b]very low mileage KLR's[/b] [b]1, 1700 miles[/b] [b]2, 1900 miles[/b] [b]both while in new condition[/b] [b]have had to change rear tires[/b] [b]Is that normal?[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Sportygil[/b]

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[Harry Seifert]

Julian, CA, in the southern  Southern CA, 60 miles in any direction takes you to below sea level, Imperial Valley; the beach, Del Mar; the 6,000 ft + San Gorgonios above Palm Springs and south to Mexico.  Elden Carl has named Julian as the KLR capital of the world.

On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: Heck, in some places 3,000 ft is the valley floor. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Frey" To: "Carla Williamson" , "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:36:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires San Joaquin Valley (Fresno area), but most of my rides take me to the coastal range and Sierras. Aside from the arrow straight roads in the valley, the riding out there is similar to riding in PA - lots of twisties when you are in the hills.  The big difference is that the CA mountains are much bigger than the PA mountains.  You'll get to 3,000 feet easy enough in either state, but PA's mountains end there. CA mountains keep going up!  On 1/11/2010 12:54 PM, Carla Williamson wrote:[quote]What part of CA as there is beach, desert, mountains, country, and also northern & souther CA and depending on where you were doing the main portion of your riding can make a difference on tire wear? [i][b][/b][/i][i][/i] Carla[i][b][/b][/i] [i][b]If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around[/b][/i][i][b][/b][/i] [i][b]C&J[/b][/i][b][i]Surprise, AZ[/i][/b]  [b]From:[/b] Mike Frey mike21b@... [b]To:[/b] List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, January 11, 2010 10:12:37 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires  The OEM tire on my California KLR was worn out at 2,000 miles. The OEM tire on my Pennsylvania KLR wore out at 4,000 miles.  Aside from one of them being a 2006 and the other a 2004 model, there is little difference in my riding style from one to the other.  Maybe CA has more abrasive road surfaces....? The PA bike now has Cheng Shin C-858s on it. Looks like the rear will only make it to about 2500 miles. The CA bike has Kenda K270 rear on it.  On 1/11/2010 11:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: I got 5,800 miles out of my OEM rear with mainly slab riding with some fire trails thrown in here and there.  I always keep my pressure up when on the street and I'm not the most heavy-handed rider, but I'm not a slowpoke either. I have just over 11,000 on my '09 now and my second rear tire, a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara is getting thin, but there's still some tread left.  I'll probably replace it next month.  The front is badly feathered from all the slab riding I do, so it will be replaced as well. I'll probably be going with a more street-oriented tire, like the K761 or the Shinko 705 just to try them out and see what they're like.  I've never run cheap tires on a bike before so this will be an experience.  They are both a 70/30 or so tire and that better matches my (recent) riding patterns. I also recently installed  a power port so I can use my compressor when trail riding, so airing down for the trail and back up when I'm done will be easier and may compensate for the street-y tread pattern. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sportygil"  k.net> To: "DSN KLR650"  ups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:16:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rear Tires  [b]I have been looking at two[/b][b]very low mileage KLR's[/b][b]1, 1700 miles[/b][b]2, 1900 miles[/b][b]both while in new condition[/b][b]have had to change rear tires[/b][b]Is that normal?[/b][b][/b] [b]Sportygil[/b]

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