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Michael Koch
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trouble starting

Post by Michael Koch » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:11 am

I hadn't started my KLR for about a month, and then yesterday, when it was about 65 degrees F, I was unable to start it with the choke on. Previously, with a cold engine, it has always started immediately with full choke and no throttle. Yesterday I was able to start it with the choke off and about half throttle. It ran well and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles, but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas. I started it several more times and even with the engine warmed up I had to give it some throttle to start it. Is there a particular part of the carburetor that could be clogged which would cause this problem, or is there something else I need to check?

Keith Saltzer
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trouble starting

Post by Keith Saltzer » Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:39 pm

> It ran well > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles, > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas". KLR's don't need it. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Jud Jones
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trouble starting

Post by Jud Jones » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:39 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Koch" wrote:
> > I hadn't started my KLR for about a month, and then yesterday, when > it was about 65 degrees F, I was unable to start it with the choke > on. Previously, with a cold engine, it has always started > immediately with full choke and no throttle. Yesterday I was able > to start it with the choke off and about half throttle. It ran well > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles, > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas. > I started it several more times and even with the engine warmed up I > had to give it some throttle to start it. > > Is there a particular part of the carburetor that could be clogged > which would cause this problem, or is there something else I need to > check?
You have probably collected some moisture in your float bowl, from condensation. Drain the float bowl and see how it starts and runs. Sea Foam next, followed by fresh gas. Don't waste your money on premium. When your fuel does start to go off, the first place to feel the effects is the pilot jet. If it's still not right look there.

L.D.
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trouble starting

Post by L.D. » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:21 pm

Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith pointed out) but it also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike for an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and run the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have been left sitting for as long as six months. L.D. Keith Saltzer wrote:
> It ran well > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles, > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas". KLR's don't need it. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Rodney Copeland
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trouble starting

Post by Rodney Copeland » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:11 pm

Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't run near as good on the 87 as it does on the 91! Just me, I guess. Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the sound of sparknockin!
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "L.D." wrote: > Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith pointed out) but it also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike for an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and run the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have been left sitting for as long as six months. > > L.D. > > Keith Saltzer wrote: > > > > > It ran well > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had > > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has > > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles, > > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas. > > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never > more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas". > KLR's don't need it. > > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Randall Marbach
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Post by Randall Marbach » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:21 pm

Mine either. Randy from Burbank --- Rodney Copeland wrote:
> > > Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't > run near as good > on the 87 as it does on the 91! > Just me, I guess. > Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the > sound of sparknockin! > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "L.D." > wrote: > > Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith > pointed out) but it > also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you > park the bike for > an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and > Sta-Bil and run > the bike long enough to get the mixture into the > carb. This > procedure has never failed for me even when the > motorcyles have been > left sitting for as long as six months. > > > > L.D. > > > > Keith Saltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > It ran well > > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about > 1600-2000 rpm. It had > > > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is > that the gas has > > > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it > for a few miles, > > > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with > fresh premium > gas. > > > > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure > my fuel is never > > more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money > on "premium gas". > > KLR's don't need it. > > > > > > MrMoose > > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced > search. Learn more. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >
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klr6501995
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Post by klr6501995 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:52 am

I have went to a one step colder plug after running the stock plug. This 98 motor sounded the same as my 95 motor. knock or ping at full throttle and low to high rpm depending on gear. typical klr motor. my first 87 was the same. My current motor was a salvage yard motor and had a colder plug already in it at 6.5 kmi. So the previouse owner found a need for a colder plug. the colder plug has made pratically all ping go away and now I just hear tappy valves. I live in Jax Fl. at sea level And for the past two years I play with jetting during our mild winters.Not this year. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rodney Copeland" wrote:
> > Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't run near as
good
> on the 87 as it does on the 91! > Just me, I guess. > Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the sound of
sparknockin!
> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "L.D." wrote: > > Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith pointed out) but
it
> also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike
for
> an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and
run
> the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This > procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have
been
> left sitting for as long as six months. > > > > L.D. > > > > Keith Saltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > It ran well > > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It
had
> > > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas
has
> > > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few
miles,
> > > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium > gas. > > > > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is
never
> > more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium
gas".
> > KLR's don't need it. > > > > > > MrMoose > > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Michael Koch
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trouble starting

Post by Michael Koch » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:05 am

My KLR is running fine now. I really hate to admit how stupid I was, but here is the story. Last night I was reading the Clymer manual in preparaton for removing and cleaning the carburetor. I read over the starting procedure. You are supposed to turn the choke lever to the left for full choke. Some idiot who had not been on the bike for only one month had forgotten that and was trying to start it with no choke and run it with full choke. Anyway, all's well that ends well. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote:
> > > It ran well > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It
had
> > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas
has
> > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few
miles,
> > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium
gas.
> > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is
never
> more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium
gas".
> KLR's don't need it. > > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

gillwrig
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trouble starting

Post by gillwrig » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:20 pm

My engine will fire 30-40 times with the choke on then stop. I need to let it sit for a while before it will do this again. I do not think it is a carb problem as if I can get it going, it will run strong without the choke. Might this be a problem with the emissions hoses? Could this be an electrical problem? Gill

Michael T
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trouble starting

Post by Michael T » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:39 pm

Idle circuit BTW it is not a choke persay, it is an fuel enrichment circuit (lever actuates a passage for additional fuel, not a restrictor to air flow). Michael T A16 lasvegasrider -----Original Message----- From: gillwrig [mailto:gillwrig@...] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:20 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] trouble starting My engine will fire 30-40 times with the choke on then stop. I need to let it sit for a while before it will do this again. I do not think it is a carb problem as if I can get it going, it will run strong without the choke. Might this be a problem with the emissions hoses? Could this be an electrical problem? Gill Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

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