welding on side stand

[Chris Norloff]

Has anybody tried Dyna-Beads tire balancer? http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?products_id=5614 Thanks, Chris

[smthng else]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Chris Norloff wrote:

> Has anybody tried Dyna-Beads tire balancer? > http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?products_id=5614

Not on the K, but a couple guys in my Jeep club used them and say they're amazing. 35" off-road tires suck for balancing. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng.info "Look, the truth is, I've been trying to save the world, one person at a time, but, I'm meant for smthng bigger. Smthng important. I know it now."

[Mike Hilton]

Chris, I am using them in my K1200GT as sell as my R100S and would not go back to weights... I have a stand balancer that I may sell. Have not put them in my KLR as of yet, haven't made the first tire change. I take all weights off of the rim and use only the balance beads... Smooth as glass up to 110, not sure above that. Have a weak heart, it won't let me go faster. Mike H.

----- Original Message ----- From: smthng else To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tried Dyna-Beads tire balancer? On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Chris Norloff wrote: > Has anybody tried Dyna-Beads tire balancer? > http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?products_id=5614 Not on the K, but a couple guys in my Jeep club used them and say they're amazing. 35" off-road tires suck for balancing. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng.info "Look, the truth is, I've been trying to save the world, one person at a time, but, I'm meant for smthng bigger. Smthng important. I know it now." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Douglas Blakkolb]

I am running Dyna-Beads in the front tire of my 02 Yamaha FZ1 but still have reservations. First I installed the new front tire without any balancing weights. I took the bike over 100 mph and it was real smooth so the balancing was pretty close to begin with. I installed the Dyan-Beads, this takes some doing as they don't just poor in throught the valve stem. You must tap on the tube to get them to move. I also installed the longer valve cores recommed by Dyan-Beads. Now the rub. Dyan-Beads recommends that before you check the tire pressures you first pump a little air into the tire?? I can see why they recommed this procedure as it pushes the beads away from the valve core. I didn't do this and a couple of the Dyan- Beads got caught in the longer valve stem spring. This open the valve core just slightly and 10 miles down the road I noticed the bike very hard to turn into a corner. When I stopped I had around 5 PSI in the tire! I switched back to the short valve core. Since then I have noticed a puff of air comming out of the valve stem when I remove the valve stem cap. I haven't lost all the air again but still I check my tire pressure everytime before I ride (not a bad thing). As far as the balancing goes it is hard to say I have had the bike 125 MPH with no problems. I am still shakey about the this product but may give it one more try when I put on a new back tire on the Yamaha soon.....ace

[Dave Svoboda]

At 09:47 AM 6/6/2008, Douglas Blakkolb wrote:

>I am running Dyna-Beads in the front tire of my 02 Yamaha FZ1 but >still have reservations. First I installed the new front tire >without any balancing weights. I took the bike over 100 mph and it >was real smooth so the balancing was pretty close to begin with.

I'm not convinced that all the various dynamic balancing liquids and beads and such over the years haven't been snake-oil. It doesn't make sense to me that the liquid or beads or whatever could gather at the light spot, in the correct proportion, to balance a tire. It seems to me that the heavy spot in the tire would ride a little toward the outside, and the liquid or beads would tend to congregate there. I believe tire balancing is a bit overrated. My commuting bike is a Honda Hawk GT, with a single-sided swingarm. Until very recently I was unable to balance the rear wheel when I changed tires. I ride the little bike up to about 90mph on the freeway, and I've never noticed much speed-increasing vibration, as long as the tires are relatively fresh, and the chain and sprockets good. Worn components do vibrate. So I think someone with fresh tires puts the snake oil in, and finds no big vibration, and says "wow", when in reality (as you found) unbalance tires don't do much, anyway. - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo

[Jim Douglas]

Robert Waters wrote:

> > > > All this discussion about side stands has caused me to find the time > to cut mine off.  I had shortened the rear hight by one inch and > the bike needed to lean over a bit more for stability.  The job > was much easier than I thought it would be.  Took about 15 minutes. >   > I tied the stand to the frame where the sawsall could cut it.  > Sawed about 5/8 inch from the bottom, keeping the angle the same as > the bottom plate. Then I put it on a vice and cut the rest off as > close to the bottom plate as possible, and used the grinder to > finish.  Then l tacked it on with a wire welder.  I had > previously made an aluminum plate (3/16) to bolt on the bottom so it > would have a bigger foot print, so I bolted that on and tried it > out.  It was perfect, so I finished welding it right on the > bike--no problems.  Painted it and looks good.  If anyone > wants a pic showing the aluminum plate I'll send one. >   > rw > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

When I side stand broke I used Gorilla Glue to hold it together, the bitch is I put too much and no I can't lower the stand.................................... This is interesting as recently here in TX there has been 70MPH winds and as I was jumping off at the store noticed that the bike as moving a very little bit on level ground, moved the handlebars to the far left in attempt to make it more stable, it was still standing when I went back out.....Would this type of mod taking off, 5/8", make the thing more stable? Does not seem like much? I have not lowered the bike..

[Bogdan Swider]

> > > I believe tire balancing is a bit overrated. My commuting bike is > a Honda Hawk GT, with a single-sided swingarm. Until very recently > I was unable to balance the rear wheel when I changed tires. I ride > the little bike up to about 90mph on the freeway, and I've never noticed

much speed-increasing vibration An acquaintance from my Beemer days had a K bike. As many know those guys are into speed. He was of the only if it needs it school. After mounting a tire or tires he would take his ride to the thinly populated flat lands east of here and slowly increase speed till the bike hit 120mph or so. The purpose was to see if he could detect any handling irregularities. If he found any he would balance the tires; if he found none he wouldn t bother. As of our last conversation he never had to balance a tire. Having said that I do balance my Kenda 270s. These cheap tires come way out of balance and need a lot of lead to come close to being balanced. I use a home made gizmo just a couple of rails on a stand made of tubing used for water pipes. I stop before they re perfect; figure they re good enough. At a Mexican tire shack the owner and I balanced a tire using a rod held on a ledge. A two person job. One of us held the rod the other spun the tire. Again good enough. I m not a superbike racer. Bogdan, who at times had to balance a shot with a beer. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]