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[Jim Priest]

I'm hopefully going on a trip next weekend and will be camping. Everyone did such a good job on compiling the master tool list (see link below!) I'd love to do the same thing and compile a 'master camping list' So tell me - what do you take camping! Jim -- Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:47:57 -0400 "Jim Priest" writes:

> I'm hopefully going on a trip next weekend and will be camping. > Everyone did such a good job on compiling the master tool list (see > link below!) I'd love to do the same thing and compile a 'master > camping list' > > So tell me - what do you take camping! > > Jim

<><><><><><><> <><><><><>> Jim, I'll play. Here is an incomplete list of some of the junk I drag along. In no particular order: - tent - air mattress - sleeping bag - Kermit Chair - stove (single burner) - fire starters (matches, lighter) - toilet paper - towel (high absorbent, bought at Walmart in the auto section) - flashlight - simple meals - snacks - rope - moccasins - compass - first aid kit - survival kit - water in a wide mouth bottle - maps - rain gear That's enough for now. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Jim Priest]

On 6/13/07, tlh wrote:

> > Depends on where you're going.. >

Outside So break it down - what are the essentials? What do you take on long trips? Short trips? Hot? Cold? -- Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Priest]

On 6/13/07, Jeff Saline wrote:

> I'll play. Here is an incomplete list of some of the junk I drag along. > In no particular order: > > - air mattress

Thanks Jeff! What kind of air mattress do most folks use? I have a Thermarest pad - and last time I camped out in the yard with the kids - my back did not feel very rested... Is it worth the xtra comfort to tote along a blow up mattress? I carry a compressor so blowing it up wouldn't be an issue. -- Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list

[Arden Kysely]

I was using a nice air mattress with individually filled tubes that I got here: http://www.redlinegear.com/ but have recently moved up to the thicker Big Agnes Air Core. It's the old comfort vs. weight/bulk tradeoff. For me, Big Agnes does the trick. You can find them at REI, Campmor, etc. A head net is on my list of camping essentials. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Priest" wrote: > > On 6/13/07, Jeff Saline wrote: > > I'll play. Here is an incomplete list of some of the junk I drag along. > > In no particular order: > > > > - air mattress > > Thanks Jeff! > > What kind of air mattress do most folks use? I have a Thermarest pad > - and last time I camped out in the yard with the kids - my back did > not feel very rested... > > Is it worth the xtra comfort to tote along a blow up mattress? I carry > a compressor so blowing it up wouldn't be an issue. > > -- > Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' > Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List > http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources > http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list >

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Jim Priest wrote:

> So break it down - what are the essentials? What do you take on > long trips? > Short trips? Hot? Cold?

Always: * Wiggy's sleeping bag * Thermarest Luxury Edition pad * Sierra Designs Sirius 3 tent * Thermarest camp chair * GSI anodized non-stick pots * Primus TechnoTrail gas stove w/ piezo ignition + gas canister(s) * Nylon cooking tools * Fork and spoon * Nylon scrubbie * Travel-size dish soap * Swiss Army Tool * Coppertone sweat-proof 30 SPF * Hat (wide-brimmed and/or fleece) * Black Diamond LED headlamp + extra batteries * Cold Steel Survival Rescue Knife * Mini ceramic knife sharpener * Camelbak 1L hydration pack * Firestarters (waterproof matches, magnesium starter, Bic) * Water purifier (MSR MIOX, Micropur MP-1 tablets) * Suunto compass and area maps * Garmin 76 Cx GPS + batteries * Exped Expedition Sewing Kit * u-dig-it trowel * Toilet paper * Contractor-grade trash bag * PackTowl * 100' 3-strand paracord * Travel size Purel (hand sanitizer) * SAS Survival Flickbook * Fox 40 Mini whistle * REI weatherproof note pad * Fisher Space Pen * Big bag of beef jerky -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Priest]

On 6/13/07, tlh wrote:

> First: Tell at least 2 people when/when i'm going and when to expect to hear from me and when after that time to initiate a search. >

That's a great idea and probably something those of us who ride solo should do more often. I know when I'm out roaming around I sometimes wonder how anyone would find me if I ran off the road, etc... -- Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list

[tlh]

Depends on where you're going.. albatross slept under too many overpasses

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Priest To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR - camping list I'm hopefully going on a trip next weekend and will be camping. Everyone did such a good job on compiling the master tool list (see link below!) I'd love to do the same thing and compile a 'master camping list' So tell me - what do you take camping! Jim -- Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/KLR650_resources http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/Master_tool_list [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:22:49 -0400 "Jim Priest" writes:

> Thanks Jeff! > > What kind of air mattress do most folks use? I have a Thermarest > pad > - and last time I camped out in the yard with the kids - my back > did > not feel very rested... > > Is it worth the xtra comfort to tote along a blow up mattress? I > carry > a compressor so blowing it up wouldn't be an issue. > > -- > Jim Priest - central NC - 04 KLR650 'Gonzo' > Checkout the KLR Resource List and Master Tool List

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Jim, You're welcome. I don't know about other folks but I'm using an Eddie Bauer air mattress I bought at Target in about 2003. I don't think it's available there anymore but I have seen the identical mattress at Sears in the camping section. It has a red Swiss type flag/marking on the box. I guess the cost is probably about $50 today. This mattress has a self-contained battery compartment (four D size batteries) and a self-contained air pump. The air pump is put in one way to inflate the mattress and can be reversed for deflating and packing. It also has a small pump device built into the foot end of the mattress for "quietly" topping off the mattress. It takes a bit of room and weighs a bit but I have never, absolutely ever, slept better when camping in my entire life than when using this mattress. I haven't used my thermarest mattress since I bought the big mattress. One thing to consider with an air mattress is it's insulation factor. It doesn't really have one. : ) In hot weather it will help transfer heat a bit. In cold weather the air in the mattress will get cold and suck the heat out of you faster than you can create it. So in colder temps make sure you have a good layer between you and the mattress. I'd also suggest making sure you have patching materials on hand when you travel with the mattress. On De Tour I had two leaks in my mattress and woke up on the ground three or four nights before I got them patched. When on the GDR in 2004 my pump got damaged in the "incident." It would seal but not pump. I'd take Steve Rankin's pump and inflate my mattress. Then quickly swap in my pump and top the mattress with the hand inflation device. It worked well for the few nights I needed to do that. A replacement pump only cost me $8 with shipping to my house. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Zachariah Mully]

On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:22 -0400, Jim Priest wrote:

> On 6/13/07, Jeff Saline wrote: > > I'll play. Here is an incomplete list of some of the junk I drag along. > > In no particular order: > > > > - air mattress > > Thanks Jeff! > > What kind of air mattress do most folks use? I have a Thermarest pad > - and last time I camped out in the yard with the kids - my back did > not feel very rested... > > Is it worth the xtra comfort to tote along a blow up mattress? I carry > a compressor so blowing it up wouldn't be an issue. >

IMO, air mattresses are crap. They leak, they're large and they're a hassle in general. If you can afford either (and they're applicable to your region), I recommend the following: *Hennessey Camping hammock - http://www.hennessyhammock.com/ Super fast set up and take down once you get used to the snakeskins. Don't need flat ground, or an air mattress. Very warm if you use an under hammock quilt or their 3-season kit. *Luxury-Lite Low Rise cot - http://www.luxurylite.com/cotindex.html Lighter than an air mattress, won't deflate, tiny and very comfortable! I weigh 240lbs so even the thickest thermarest was never comfortable for me, but I can actually sleep on this! I've used both fairly extensively, and highly recommend them. Z