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hijklr
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oil change concern

Post by hijklr » Fri May 04, 2007 1:32 pm

The last 3 oil changes, I have noticed something strange. I remove the drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the filter cover, alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back into the engine. The beast runs terrific with no strange noises and oil appears to be passing through the filter (specs of metal on the surface). My first assumption is that the bypass valve (the doohickey you insert into the filter) is defective. Any ideas? Kevin A17 21,000 smiles

Blake Sobiloff
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oil change concern

Post by Blake Sobiloff » Fri May 04, 2007 1:45 pm

On May 4, 2007, at 11:31 AM, hijklr wrote:
> The last 3 oil changes, I have noticed something strange. I remove > the > drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the filter > cover, > alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back into the > engine.
Which way do you have the bypass tube oriented--narrow end towards the engine or towards yourself? -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hijklr
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oil change concern

Post by hijklr » Fri May 04, 2007 1:57 pm

As always, narrow end toward engine... the only way it fits.

Jim Priest
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Post by Jim Priest » Fri May 04, 2007 2:09 pm

On 5/4/07, hijklr wrote:
> As always, narrow end toward engine... the only way it fits.
I'm not sure which way the oil flows but have you ever cleaned your oil screen? I was surprised at the gunk accumulated on mine in less thank 10k miles... Jim

Blake Sobiloff
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Post by Blake Sobiloff » Fri May 04, 2007 2:10 pm

On May 4, 2007, at 11:56 AM, hijklr wrote:
> As always, narrow end toward engine... the only way it fits.
Great! I have heard of folks managing to get the tube in backwards, so I wanted to double-check that with you. :-) Are you able to actuate the valve inside the tube? Use a small screwdriver to push it. Sometimes they get jammed up. And, not that this would likely make a difference, but what brand of filter are you using? Lastly, when you say oil gushes out, how much are we talking about? I change my oil with the bike on its sidestand, so that helps keep the oil inside the filter housing. The filter pulls a little oil with it when I pull it out, but it's easily absorbed by a paper towel. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hijklr
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Post by hijklr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:13 pm

Yes, I cleaned the screen @ 6700 miles and hoped to never do it again. Mine was full of factory silicone worms.

hijklr
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Post by hijklr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:27 pm

Blake, I was able to activate the valve with a screwdriver last night and noticed that it hung up now and then. I have a new one on the way. I've been using "cheap ass" EMGO filters with Rotella synthetic. These cheapo filters may be clogging and causing the problem.

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Post by Blake Sobiloff » Fri May 04, 2007 2:36 pm

On May 4, 2007, at 12:25 PM, hijklr wrote:
> I was able to activate the valve with a screwdriver last night and > noticed that it hung up now and then. I have a new one on the way.
That's probably a good thing to replace, as you don't want the valve to stick and bypass when it's not necessary. However, I'm not confident that that will fix your concern. Keep us posted.
> I've been using "cheap ass" EMGO filters with Rotella synthetic. > These > cheapo filters may be clogging and causing the problem.
I've used a few EMGOs on my bike and haven't noticed any problems; they seem as well-made as any of the other filters out there. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hijklr
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Post by hijklr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:40 pm

> Lastly, when you say oil gushes out, how much are we talking about? > I change my oil with the bike on its sidestand, so that helps keep > the oil inside the filter housing. The filter pulls a little oil > with it when I pull it out, but it's easily absorbed by a paper towel.
I guess a quarter cup comes out when the bike is centered.

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Post by kestrelfal » Fri May 04, 2007 2:41 pm

Are you using Auto-Rx or LC20? Fred
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hijklr" wrote: > > The last 3 oil changes, I have noticed something strange. I remove the > drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the filter cover, > alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back into the > engine. The beast runs terrific with no strange noises and oil appears > to be passing through the filter (specs of metal on the surface). My > first assumption is that the bypass valve (the doohickey you insert > into the filter) is defective. Any ideas? > Kevin > A17 > 21,000 smiles >

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