chain and master link problem

[Dan Bittner]

Do any of you players out there have any experience with Stainintune exhaust systems, as in fit, durability, and are they reasonably quite with the baffles in. Any input would really be appreciated. Thanks Dan Bittner Sacramento A16 KLR YZF600R KTM 950 Adv. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

I have a Staintune on my VFR and it has been a great pipe. Solid construction and with the removable tip, I can play squidly street racer and get my kicks. How can you not make a VFR sound cool? It is on the loud side with the exhaust tip removed and with it in it is a little louder than the stock muffler. I checked with the Staintune US distributor today and they tell me that they have sent Staintune a mock up for the KLR650A but haven't heard anymore from the OZ manufacturer. They tell me that the Staintune for the KLR that has been made is for the European KLR models and is a straight through baffle with no spark arrestor. If it were made for the KLR A series it would sell for $499. On another exhausting note. . . I contacted Laser today about ordering more pipes and found out with the exchange rate of the Euro, that Laser has raised prices on all their prices for the US. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Bittner" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Staintune exhaust > Do any of you players out there have any experience with Stainintune exhaust systems, as in fit, durability, and are they reasonably quite with the baffles in. Any input would really be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Dan Bittner > Sacramento > A16 KLR > YZF600R > KTM 950 Adv. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[RD]

How many of you have used the Staintune exhaust on the KLR650. How do you like it? Where did you get it? How's power and sound, more, or less? Any info. is wanted and thanked for. RD

[Greg B]

I have had my Staintune fitted since delivery. I cannot state whether the muffler improved performance. I was more interested in the "substantial" weight saving. The muffler looks particularly good to me and suits the bike. However the noise is another issue. Way too loud with the tailpipe out. Again, way too loud with the tail pipe in. It had a snappy and annoying bark, particularly when the throttle was cracked open. Each power pulse could be heard a mile away. Not good. I dont like loud bikes, but appreciate a good sound. But wait, their is a solution. Remove the tail piece. You can insert a length of steel pipe directly into the entry point of the tail piece. It is a tight fit. I originally did this as an experiment and used two self tappers (Although pre drilled) to retain this extension piece. Before installing, you must drill a million small holes into the pipe. One drill press, about 2 - 3mm drill bit, and about half an hours work. All finished and in she goes. Cost me nothing, had the pipe lying around anyway. Oh, I crimped the end of the pipe of course. Exhaust gases travel from the muffler body into the tailpiece via the drilled holes. Result - Much better sounding. Its about half way between the original KLR muffler and the original Staintune. Performance is improved throught the torquey 3000 to 4000 rev range. At higher revs it does feel as though it "comes on the pipe" a bit. Although it may just be a point where it sounds good. At the 2005 Sydney motorcycle show, I spoke to the guy that owns Staintune. Told him what I had done. He indicated that this would not harm the engine in any way. He did say that due to the increased back pressure, it would perform better for my intended use. ie : cruising dirt roads at 3 to 4K rev range. So there you have it. I am very happy. I intended to replace the mild steel pipe with stainless one day when my original fixtures self destructed. 15000klm later, no such thing has occured. Its still there. I intend to fiddle with jetting soon, but must say that it probably isnt necessary. There are no real flat spots to mention. As mentioned, the noise level is about perfect. It will "noise up" when you crack the throttle enough to warn your friendly car driver that you are beside him in commuting traffic. Anyway, I am one happy customer. I am sure you will be too. Regards, Greg B Australia wrote: How many of you have used the Staintune exhaust on the KLR650. How do you like it? Where did you get it? How's power and sound, more, or less? Any info. is wanted and thanked for. RD Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kestrelfal]

I'm sure you know this Greg, but what you made is called a baffle. I'm curious if S'tune would sell a lot more KLR650 exhaust systems if it came with a baffle tube accessory to make it quiet(er)/"legal". BTW, aftermarket baffles are available; the trick would be getting one that fit properly and had the right sound/reduction. Fred

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Greg B wrote: > > I have had my Staintune fitted since delivery. I cannot state whether the muffler improved performance. I was more interested in the "substantial" weight saving. The muffler looks particularly good to me and suits the bike. > > However the noise is another issue. Way too loud with the tailpipe out. Again, way too loud with the tail pipe in. It had a snappy and annoying bark, particularly when the throttle was cracked open. Each power pulse could be heard a mile away. Not good. I dont like loud bikes, but appreciate a good sound. But wait, their is a solution. > > Remove the tail piece. You can insert a length of steel pipe directly into the entry point of the tail piece. It is a tight fit. I originally did this as an experiment and used two self tappers (Although pre drilled) to retain this extension piece. Before installing, you must drill a million small holes into the pipe. One drill press, about 2 - 3mm drill bit, and about half an hours work. All finished and in she goes. Cost me nothing, had the pipe lying around anyway. Oh, I crimped the end of the pipe of course. Exhaust gases travel from the muffler body into the tailpiece via the drilled holes. > > Result - Much better sounding. Its about half way between the original KLR muffler and the original Staintune. Performance is improved throught the torquey 3000 to 4000 rev range. At higher revs it does feel as though it "comes on the pipe" a bit. Although it may just be a point where it sounds good. > > At the 2005 Sydney motorcycle show, I spoke to the guy that owns Staintune. Told him what I had done. He indicated that this would not harm the engine in any way. He did say that due to the increased back pressure, it would perform better for my intended use. ie : cruising dirt roads at 3 to 4K rev range. > > So there you have it. I am very happy. I intended to replace the mild steel pipe with stainless one day when my original fixtures self destructed. 15000klm later, no such thing has occured. Its still there. I intend to fiddle with jetting soon, but must say that it probably isnt necessary. There are no real flat spots to mention. As mentioned, the noise level is about perfect. It will "noise up" when you crack the throttle enough to warn your friendly car driver that you are beside him in commuting traffic. > > Anyway, I am one happy customer. I am sure you will be too. > > Regards, > Greg B > Australia > > > wrote: > How many of you have used the Staintune exhaust on the KLR650. How do > you like it? Where did you get it? How's power and sound, more, or > less? Any info. is wanted and thanked for. RD > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[dcrljack]

A 520 O-ring master link from the Honda dealer fit perfectly. Of course, I broke the chain breaker pin removing the first master link! Ordered a new pin which arrived in 3-4 days. Kudos to MotionPro for making replacement parts. As a couple of folks suggested, not all 520 master links are the same. Problem solved. Thanks for the input. DCJ

> And of course it did: master links are specific to brand and model of > chain. You can't just replace one master link with another just

because

> both are chain size 520. Sometimes you can't even use the wrong

retaining

> clip! > > Since Kawasaki supplies the KLR with an endless chain, I don't think > there's even a Kawasaki part number for a clip master link that is > guaranteed to fit your chain. You may be able to experiment and find > something that works. > > Thor >