suzuki sucks!

[divesandiego]

Aha! After $170 and 20 man-hours (15 by professional mechanics,) the surging problem is solved. The culprit: Part #13183. It's a little plastic bracket that routes the lines from the emissisons canister over the airbox intake. Only it flexed in the Vegas heat and was sukced down over the air intake like a lid. Here's the fix: 1. Jerk the seat and remove the plastic thingie from above the air intake 2. Take it out into the desert and shoot it with a gun 3. Re-route the lines to the frame using zipties. Thanks to all who weighed in. I have a drawing of the part from the manual in digital format if anyone is curious. Will

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "divesandiego" wrote:

> > Aha! After $170 and 20 man-hours (15 by professional mechanics,) the > surging problem is solved. > > The culprit: Part #13183. It's a little plastic bracket that routes > the lines from the emissisons canister over the airbox intake. Only > it flexed in the Vegas heat and was sukced down over the air intake > like a lid. > > Here's the fix: > 1. Jerk the seat and remove the plastic thingie from above the air > intake > 2. Take it out into the desert and shoot it with a gun > 3. Re-route the lines to the frame using zipties. > > Thanks to all who weighed in. I have a drawing of the part from the > manual in digital format if anyone is curious. > > Will >

Will, Another amazing KLR fix. I went to the Clymers and the OEM manual...neither suggest the caliber appropriate for shooting a non- compliant, plastic thingie. Is the caliber important, what range, and does the lighting matter? We of the KLR nation want to be sure we follow the procedure, precisely. revmaaatin. the only good thingie is a dead thingie (that is what I read in this post.) ps. do I have to go to the desert? It has been 111F for 4 days staight here in SD, is THAT close enough?????? All that said, well done in posting something useful

[J Fortner]

On 8/1/06, divesandiego wrote:

> > Here's the fix: > 1. Jerk the seat and remove the plastic thingie from above the air > intake > 2. Take it out into the desert and shoot it with a gun > 3. Re-route the lines to the frame using zipties. >

I feel so slighted and cheated. My KLR has neither a plastic thingie or emissions canister. So I guess your KLR was not "sucking"? Well that really "blows". Ahhhh zipties.... JF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Blake Sobiloff]

On 8/1/06, revmaaatin wrote:

> Another amazing KLR fix. I went to the Clymers and the OEM > manual...neither suggest the caliber appropriate for shooting a non- > compliant, plastic thingie. Is the caliber important, what range, > and does the lighting matter? We of the KLR nation want to be sure > we follow the procedure, precisely.

Well, we need a simple and robust caliber, one that's been around for quite a long time with very little change. It won't be great at anything, but it'll be good at lots of things. Simple to reload, and easy to find in stores (but we'll suggest you load your own because the stores don't really know what they're selling). I'd suggest it'd be real close between 30-30 and 30-06, but a 30-06 might have more horsepower than appropriate. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Blake Sobiloff" wrote:

> > On 8/1/06, revmaaatin wrote: > > Another amazing KLR fix. I went to the Clymers and the OEM > > manual...neither suggest the caliber appropriate for shooting a

non-

> > compliant, plastic thingie. Is the caliber important, what range, > > and does the lighting matter? We of the KLR nation want to be

sure

> > we follow the procedure, precisely. > > Well, we need a simple and robust caliber, one that's been around

for

> quite a long time with very little change. It won't be great at > anything, but it'll be good at lots of things. Simple to reload,

and

> easy to find in stores (but we'll suggest you load your own because > the stores don't really know what they're selling). > > I'd suggest it'd be real close between 30-30 and 30-06, but a 30-06 > might have more horsepower than appropriate. > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) >

Bob, This seems a little extreme, such large calibers. Aren't you concerned that it will ruin the meat and you then won't be able to eat the plastic thingie? revmaaatin.

[Mike Peplinski]

Seems to me this is a sticky issue tor manufacturers as well. Many warrantees are non-transferrable, from Midas mufflers to, obviously Suzuki's. In these cases it is the consumer's responsibility to "read the fine print". In the case of recall type defects they are usually transferred. However motorcycles rarely issue recalls. Honda had one a while back relating to frame failure on certain Gold Wings and Yamaha recently issues the ultimate recall, a buy back when they found their superbike's tach was inacurate and didn't actyually red line at 17500RPM. Wasn't that a laugh, like it really matters. 16000 or 17500RPM. Sheesh! While I can agree with the effect on the buyer, it is pretty common practice for warrantees to end with the first non-dealer sale. Before you come down all over Suzuki remember that this warranty issue is very complex and expensive. The only reason car makers respond the way they do is through extensive court action and government interventions (lemon laws).

>From: Dennis Holm >To: Pat >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Suzuki Sucks! >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:17:28 -0700 (PDT) > >I just heard the same complaint from fellow boater in my other love, >whitewater river running. I guy purchased a very expensive Sotor cataraft, >still under warrantee. Had some issues with delaminating. Was informed, >after sending the boat to them, that because he was the second owner, the >work would NOT be covered under warrantee. His boat is up for sale at a >rock bottom price! He will never consider Sotor products again. Don't >these "stuffed shirts" understand the public talks to each other and the >"word" gets around about how or how not they back their products, >regardless of who ends being the owner. > p.s. Probably will pass on the Suzuki offer! > Cheers, > Bigdroptwo > >Pat wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "John Radebaugh" > >wrote: > > > > OK, gotta vent a bit and perhaps those of you considering the purchase > > of a Suzuki may take note. > > As is common knowledge, 02 and 03 V Stroms had clutch basket issues. > > Mine developed it at 12k and now at 20k is positively awful. Suzuki > > has replaced many under a "customer satisfaction" arrangement. > > I was told by Aurora Suzuki that mine will probably be handled and > > paid for by that agreement. > > Over the course of a month, I was lead to believe that when the parts > > came in, the situtaion would be corrected. Finally an appointment was > > made after the service manager said all is ready. Just minutes ago I > > got a call from Aurora Suzuki advising me that Suzuki would not cover > > it because I am the second owner. What the crap difference that makes > > in the problem is beyond me, but as it stands there will be no > > coverage. > > I will pursue the best price for getting the DL1000 fixed and then all > > will be fine with the bike--but not with me. As it stands now, I will > > never buy another Suzuki product again. > > A company that treats its' customers this way deserves no respect what- > > so ever.. > > OK the whining is over. Anyone out there wanna by this DL1000 dirt > > cheap when I get it fixed???????????????????? > > JR in Cashmere > > P.S. I have made this post simply to make you aware of the crappy > > customer relations Suzuki has displayed about this issue. Do you want > > to do business with a company like that??? > > > >JR - > >Sorry to hear 'bout your service woes with the Strom. Did they deny >your claim based only on the fact that you weren't the original owner, >or do you think mileage entered into it? > >Did you report your situation on any of the big strom sites? You might >get some leads on 'taking it higher up the Zuk food chain,' especially >if you aren't the only one with that complaint. Big corps hate it when >customers start talking between themselves, letters with 'copy to' >Motorcycle Consumer News, the state AG, NHTSA, etc. Good luck! > >Are you going to ride the Easton DS event this year - KLR of course? > >Pat M > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >