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[rschulte46]

While surfing the web for information on motorcycle handling I came across this page. I get the jist of it. It is not an easy read...but it is very interesting. In CT. we must demonstrate the "swerve" in order to get our MC license. A swerve is initiated by the movement of the handle bar in the opposite direct we wish to turn. It befuddled me at first but once I tried it it became quite comfortable. I recommend all new riders work on the technique as it is a way to get into a strong evassive turn quickly on the highway. http://www.ctv.es/USERS/softtech/motos/Articles/Balance/BALANCE.htm

[Mike Peplinski]

I believe its called "push steer". This subject, and many more are discussed, very intelligently, in one of my favorite books, "Proficient Motorcycling" by David Hough. Even though I'm a 40 year veteran of motorcycling, this book has good "stuff" for my riding safety and enjoyment.

>From: "rschulte46" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] The science behind our steering >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:34:04 -0000 > > >While surfing the web for information on motorcycle handling I came >across this page. I get the jist of it. It is not an easy read...but >it is very interesting. In CT. we must demonstrate the "swerve" in >order to get our MC license. A swerve is initiated by the movement of >the handle bar in the opposite direct we wish to turn. It befuddled >me at first but once I tried it it became quite comfortable. I >recommend all new riders work on the technique as it is a way to get >into a strong evassive turn quickly on the highway. > >http://www.ctv.es/USERS/softtech/motos/Articles/Balance/BALANCE.htm > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Stephen Grisanti]

"Countersteering" is what it's called, and though counterintuitive as well, it does work. Stephen --- Mike Peplinski wrote:

> I believe its called "push steer". This subject, and > many more are > discussed, very intelligently, in one of my favorite > books, "Proficient > Motorcycling" by David Hough. Even though I'm a 40 > year veteran of > motorcycling, this book has good "stuff" for my > riding safety and enjoyment. > > > >From: "rschulte46" > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] The science behind our > steering > >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:34:04 -0000 > > > > > >While surfing the web for information on motorcycle > handling I came > >across this page. I get the jist of it. It is not > an easy read...but > >it is very interesting. In CT. we must demonstrate > the "swerve" in > >order to get our MC license. A swerve is initiated > by the movement of > >the handle bar in the opposite direct we wish to > turn. It befuddled > >me at first but once I tried it it became quite > comfortable. I > >recommend all new riders work on the technique as > it is a way to get > >into a strong evassive turn quickly on the highway. > > > >http://www.ctv.es/USERS/softtech/motos/Articles/Balance/BALANCE.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[clutz003]

Once you get above 5MPH or so this is the only way that the bike will turn. We all do it, we just do not realize it. If you don't believe it next time you are out try to make a right hand turn by turning the bars to the right, but please make sure there is not a car coming towards you on your left....... Craig A18 San Jose, CA --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rschulte46" wrote:

> > > While surfing the web for information on motorcycle handling I came > across this page. I get the jist of it. It is not an easy

read...but

> it is very interesting. In CT. we must demonstrate the "swerve" in > order to get our MC license. A swerve is initiated by the

movement of

> the handle bar in the opposite direct we wish to turn. It

befuddled

> me at first but once I tried it it became quite comfortable. I > recommend all new riders work on the technique as it is a way to

get

> into a strong evassive turn quickly on the highway. > > http://www.ctv.es/USERS/softtech/motos/Articles/Balance/BALANCE.htm >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti wrote:

> > "Countersteering" is what it's called, and though > counterintuitive as well, it does work...

...except, of course, on shaft-driven bikes.

[scarysharkface]

(Okay, I'll bite even though this is probably flame bait) Tell that to my wife's CX500, which countersteers beautifully... Countersteering shifts the center of gravity to a place above the inside of the intended turn, moving it away from being plumb with the wheels. It forces (pun intended) the rider to turn the wheel in the intended direction of travel to put the C.G back over the wheels (lest the bike fall over). It's probably a lot easier to understand from a pilot's perspective, since there is a fair amount of thrust/drag/lift/gravity physics involved in keeping something aloft... John (who can't turn a bike without countersteering)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti wrote: > > > > "Countersteering" is what it's called, and though > > counterintuitive as well, it does work... > > ...except, of course, on shaft-driven bikes. >

[Todd Larson]

Huh? Why would that change any of the physics of countersteering? --- Jud Jones wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti > wrote: > > > > "Countersteering" is what it's called, and though > > counterintuitive as well, it does work... > > ...except, of course, on shaft-driven bikes. > > > > > >

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[D Critchley]

Is this where the Coriolis effect comes in? DC Todd Larson wrote:

> Huh? Why would that change any of the physics of > countersteering? > > --- Jud Jones > wrote: > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , Stephen Grisanti > > wrote: > > > > > > "Countersteering" is what it's called, and though > > > counterintuitive as well, it does work... > > > > ...except, of course, on shaft-driven bikes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com> > >

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "scarysharkface" wrote:

> > (Okay, I'll bite even though this is probably flame bait) Tell

that to

> my wife's CX500, which countersteers beautifully... > > Countersteering shifts the center of gravity to a place above the > inside of the intended turn, moving it away from being plumb with

the

> wheels. It forces (pun intended) the rider to turn the wheel in

the

> intended direction of travel to put the C.G back over the wheels

(lest

> the bike fall over). It's probably a lot easier to understand from

a

> pilot's perspective, since there is a fair amount of > thrust/drag/lift/gravity physics involved in keeping something

aloft...

> > John (who can't turn a bike without countersteering) >

Hi John, Thrust/drag/lift/gravity is a concept that applies to most objects where aerodynamics is involved, including the beloved KLR. One place this simple offset of more thrust to over come drag does not apply is bumblebees and helicopters. With these two aerial-machines, you must add the other scientific factor of 'magic',' smoke' and 'mirrors.' If that explanation is not to the liking of our otherwise science- based audience, there is the alternative explanation: 'Helicopters are so ugly that the earth repels them.' Which is of course why helo's and KLR's are so closely related. They are both so ugly that the earth repels them and explains why so many are still on the road; A-1 to A-20, still thumping, still repelling the earth. How else do you explain 0 damage to the bike, and the 'pilot' gets a broken clavicle, 5 broken ribs and a bruised lung. The bike is ugly and I am just to 'beautiful' to be riding? No? I didn't think so either. revmaaatin.

[Norm Keller]

>"Countersteering

Shaft drive bikes can't countersteer. Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]