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[prackley]

Hi All, I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their KLRs. Mine is either garaged at home or garaged at work so it's not that much of a concern to me on a regular basis. However, if I take a road trip I want to make sure I don't come out of a watering hole to find an empty parking spot hundreds of miles from home. I'd like to hear from others on whether or not they think the "front disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What do folks do when going abroad where I would assume there is a higher likelyhood of a bike going missing? Thanks, Peter, A19, Massachusetts

[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:51:22 -0000 "prackley" writes:

> Hi All, > > I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their > KLRs. Mine is either garaged at home or garaged at work so it's not > > that much of a concern to me on a regular basis. However, if I take > a > road trip I want to make sure I don't come out of a watering hole to > > find an empty parking spot hundreds of miles from home. > > I'd like to hear from others on whether or not they think the "front > > disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What do folks do when > > going abroad where I would assume there is a higher likelyhood of a > > bike going missing? > > Thanks, > > Peter, A19, Massachusetts

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[Matt Knowles]

On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:51 AM, prackley wrote:

> I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their > KLRs.

I moved to a community where I can park it on Main Street with the keys in it and one of two things will happen. 1. The keys and the bike will still be there when I get back. or 2. Someone would recognize the bike as mine and would take the keys and track me down and hand them to me. One of the reasons I put up with the rain. But when I travel, I like having a cable that I can lock to something such as a post or another bike. I think mine is at work right now in the trunk of my ST, if I find it I'll let you know what I use. Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:51 AM, prackley wrote:

> I'd like to hear from others on whether or not they think the "front > disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What do folks do when > going abroad where I would assume there is a higher likelyhood of a > bike going missing?

Disc locks will keep hoodlums from joyriding, but a determined thief will usually get a couple of friends and pick up the bike and load it into a van. It's pretty rare to find something permanent you can cable your bike to, too. Even if you do, thin cables are pretty easily defeated but, of course, who wants to carry an inch-thick cable while they're traveling? In smaller towns I've had good luck when asking the hotel night clerk if I could park in front of the lobby windows. In fact, quite a few have offered without me even having to ask. That way they can at least keep an eye on it for you. Not a guarantee that it'll still be there in the morning, but better than sitting all alone in an unwatched parking lot. At motels I've also parked my bike right in front of my room, sometimes on the sidewalk by my room's window. Honestly, I don't think I'd wake up to the subtle sounds of someone messing with the bike, but the thief doesn't know that. I guess one of those disc locks with a motion sensor and alarm would be helpful in this situation, but I don't own one. If I'm traveling with someone else I'll sometimes run a thin cable through the frames of both bikes. This makes it nearly impossible for a thief to carry the bike away without having to first defeat the cable; the more inconvenient you can make it for the thief the less likely they are to bother with your bike. Oh, and I usually remove all the bags from the bike at night so that the curious aren't attracted, and the closer to a light you can get the better. I rode all around the mid-Atlantic area for a couple of years, and out here in CA for the past six years, and have done several trips to Colorado, Los Angeles and elsewhere. I have only had one instance of someone messing with my bike, and that was in downtown San Francisco where someone knocked my bike over while it was parked. They were nice enough to put it back on its sidestand and put the broken footpeg on the seat for me, but not nice enough to leave any insurance info. I guess that was a long way of answering your question! I typically use a Kryptonite disc lock with one of those red "Remove Before Flight" flags on the front disc while traveling, and I'll use a thin cable if traveling with someone else who's carrying it. I haven't checked to see if my Kryptonite lock can be picked with a Bic, but it probably can so I'll need to get that replaced before the next trip! -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> San Jose, CA (USA)

[Mike Schermann]

Just throw a good paddlock around your chain. --Don't forget to remove before riding... Mike Schermann prackley wrote:

>Hi All, > >I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their >KLRs. Mine is either garaged at home or garaged at work so it's not >that much of a concern to me on a regular basis. However, if I take a >road trip I want to make sure I don't come out of a watering hole to >find an empty parking spot hundreds of miles from home. > >I'd like to hear from others on whether or not they think the "front >disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What do folks do when >going abroad where I would assume there is a higher likelyhood of a >bike going missing? > >Thanks, > >Peter, A19, Massachusetts > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

[traderpro2003]

I've traveled around the world a bit and I must say most things stolen have been in the US. In other parts of the world (save places where you shouldn't be to begin with), I've never had a bike stolen. But from my Katana 600 in broad daylight in downtown Boston, to my amazement, some kid came and cut loose a small backpack (nothing of value inside) with people watching from inside a Dunkin Donuts. The people at the counter even told a police officer they thought something was wrong and the cop said, "How do I know it's not his bike?" Hello...it's called ID and registrations!! Anyway, I had the zippers locked through a small cable and through the pack's top carry loop in addition to my helmet (full face chin guard). The thief cut the backpack strap and must have broken or cut the metal zipper tabs which were pretty strong. Luckily in addition to running my helmet through the underseat lock mechanism, I cable locked through the helmet's chin guard as the thief cut the chin strap but never got my $400 Shoei helmet. [FYI - Shoei wouldn't repair it but my girlfriend (renown for excellent customer service) did for free. I've purchased 4 helmets since...all business going to HJC.) Long and short here is, take everything off the bike. Remove any eye candy to reduce the chance of someone approaching your bike for some other reason. To prevent the bike from being stolen...your only defend is good offense. Get insurance, park where you think it is safe (make a conscious decision that it's your best choice), ask hotel staff for suggestions (I too have experienced hotel people asking me to put it in front of the office window), put on a disc lock, and if you're really afraid cable it to another bike or something with a New York chain. Hey, if you're afraid of ruining a trip, it's worth it's weight in gold! But like I said, most thieves simply want to steal petty things and overseas, I'm yet to find the thief that wants to ruin your trip or leave you stranded. Even in Siberia, some Russian thieves told my friend give me all your money...basically leaving him stranded but with his bike. He asked the robbers, "How do I pay for gas?" They responded, "With credit card." When he explained he didn't have one nor would Russians accept it, they gave him $100 to get to the next big city! At least they didn't steal his BMW 1500 and gear! Common sense. Don't be afraid to pay someone for piece of mind. Explain to accomodation owners your worry, and chances are they'll have a solution. I've placed mine in barns, garages, and even in a Mongolian ger overnight! Also if you're sleeping in a tent with gear insitu, consider buying a battery powered motion alarm/detector from say Radio Shack. This will keep petty thieves from stealing small things while you rest peacefully. Cheers - Brian --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Schermann wrote:

> > Just throw a good paddlock around your chain. > --Don't forget to remove before riding... > > Mike Schermann > > > > prackley wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > >I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their > >KLRs. Mine is either garaged at home or garaged at work so it's

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[Stephen Grisanti]

The Kryptonite disc lick that came with my bike was the old barrel-type key lock of Bic fame and it was working fine. I called the company to order a second key (just in case, knowing how I lose things) and they offered to replace the old lock at no charge with a new disc lock utilizing the new key. They included a return label and paid the postage. Might be worth a call to the company. Unfortunately, my next post will be a sordid tale of KLR woe directly related to this thread. Stephen --- Blake Sobiloff wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:51 AM, prackley wrote: > > I'd like to hear from others on whether or not > they think the "front > > disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What > do folks do when > > going abroad where I would assume there is a > higher likelyhood of a > > bike going missing? > > Disc locks will keep hoodlums from joyriding, but a > determined thief > will usually get a couple of friends and pick up the > bike and load it > into a van. It's pretty rare to find something > permanent you can > cable your bike to, too. Even if you do, thin cables > are pretty > easily defeated but, of course, who wants to carry > an inch-thick > cable while they're traveling? > > In smaller towns I've had good luck when asking the > hotel night clerk > if I could park in front of the lobby windows. In > fact, quite a few > have offered without me even having to ask. That way > they can at > least keep an eye on it for you. Not a guarantee > that it'll still be > there in the morning, but better than sitting all > alone in an > unwatched parking lot. > > At motels I've also parked my bike right in front of > my room, > sometimes on the sidewalk by my room's window. > Honestly, I don't > think I'd wake up to the subtle sounds of someone > messing with the > bike, but the thief doesn't know that. I guess one > of those disc > locks with a motion sensor and alarm would be > helpful in this > situation, but I don't own one. > > If I'm traveling with someone else I'll sometimes > run a thin cable > through the frames of both bikes. This makes it > nearly impossible for > a thief to carry the bike away without having to > first defeat the > cable; the more inconvenient you can make it for the > thief the less > likely they are to bother with your bike. > > Oh, and I usually remove all the bags from the bike > at night so that > the curious aren't attracted, and the closer to a > light you can get > the better. > > I rode all around the mid-Atlantic area for a couple > of years, and > out here in CA for the past six years, and have done > several trips to > Colorado, Los Angeles and elsewhere. I have only had > one instance of > someone messing with my bike, and that was in > downtown San Francisco > where someone knocked my bike over while it was > parked. They were > nice enough to put it back on its sidestand and put > the broken > footpeg on the seat for me, but not nice enough to > leave any > insurance info. > > I guess that was a long way of answering your > question! I typically > use a Kryptonite disc lock with one of those red > "Remove Before > Flight" flags on the front disc while traveling, and > I'll use a thin > cable if traveling with someone else who's carrying > it. I haven't > checked to see if my Kryptonite lock can be picked > with a Bic, but it > probably can so I'll need to get that replaced > before the next trip! > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[revmaaatin]

I have never known of a single KLR come up missing if the owner hand- cuffs himself to the bike at night while he is asleep. and I have seen various pictures of folks with the KLR in the room with them at the hotel. How do they get away with that? revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "prackley" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I was just wondering what other folks do about security for their > KLRs. Mine is either garaged at home or garaged at work so it's not > that much of a concern to me on a regular basis. However, if I take a > road trip I want to make sure I don't come out of a watering hole to > find an empty parking spot hundreds of miles from home. > > I'd like to hear from others on whether or not they think the "front > disc" type lock/alarms are a deterent or not? What do folks do when > going abroad where I would assume there is a higher likelyhood of a > bike going missing? > > Thanks, > > Peter, A19, Massachusetts >

[Tony JONES]

> From: "Blake Sobiloff" > I used the length recommended by Progressive--2.5" IIRC. (I'm 500+ > miles away from my bike right now, so I have to go from memory.)

Like I said before, mine came with spacers. I recall some "now with extra spacer pzazz" advertising on/in the box so I guess they started including new ones. Or maybe it was DualStar who added them, IIRC thats who I got the Progressives from. Clearly the solution to my dilemma is to just put the stock ones back in and see if the noise goes away. No clue what it took so long for this to dawn on me Hopefully I still have the instructions so I can tell if the washers were OEM or stock too. Tony