anybody that speaks portuguese?

[Mike Peplinski]

I just opened the latest Cycle world and found a comparo of 4 "Adventure" bikes. I got all excited, bent out of shape. Finally an article that I would actulaly relate to. They rode the big KTM 950, the BMW HP2, the Husqvarna 610 and from the minor leagues, in case you hadn't guessed from my tag line, not the KLR but the Honda XL650. WDF??? Ok, the KTM and the HP2 are heavy weights and the Husky is pretty much a street legal dirt bike, but why the Honda and no mention of our "prescious". I haven't read it yet. I'm still steaming. Seems to me that the KLR would hold its own against the Honda and Husky at least they are in the same league but the KTM and BMW are in a different class? I don't know if I should be pissed or just face the fact that there is yet another refinement of motorcycles. We have the dual sporters like the KLR and the Suzuki-the Honda belongs here too, then we go to the "Adventure" bikes, the big bore desert cruisers, the KTM 950, BMW GS, Aprilia Capornordo,(?) then the thinly disguised road bikes like the V Strom and Triumph Scrambler. What are things coming to? Is the KLR not an adventure bike? Maybe its just a dual sport. Whats in a name anyway.

[Randy Shultz]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> Seems to me that the KLR would hold its own against the Honda and > Husky at least they are in the same league ...

--- The KLR is in the same league as the Husky TE510? Not even close in my opinion. Don't know anything about the Honda. It's just a magazine article: one man's opinion. Life is too short to get pissed about things like that...

[revmaaatin]

Hi Mike, Annoying to be ignored on isn't it. Worse when it is on a national scale. Perhaps the reasons you offered are not all the reasons why the KLR was not included, one that I would suggest is "Option K" K=Kawasaki, or K=Kash. I am not privy to all the dealing of writing a motorcycle article, road test, but it seems to me, it starts out as a 1) discussion in a board room, sometimes influenced by bias, and then moves to 2) who will give us a motorcycle (k=Kawasaki) to thrash and say good/bad things about and 3) what do we do with the bike (k=kash) when the project is over. It would be nice if a publication like Consumers Reports, who buys the equipment off a lot (that's their story) and then does the ride report without the factory offering a "tuned example" of that model. In them (CR) I have the most faith, each vehicle tested in a "certified, unbiased environment" (what ever that means) and the test report then written without the influence of kash. (at least we hope so.) Someone with more experience in R&D could comment, but from being in military acquisitions, the contractor builder wants to influence the test as much as possible, and I suspect, in many cases, the reports are not with some K factor bias. But I could be wrong. revmaaatin. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > I just opened the latest Cycle world and found a comparo of

4 "Adventure"

> bikes. I got all excited, bent out of shape. Finally an article

that I would

> actulaly relate to. They rode the big KTM 950, the BMW HP2, the

Husqvarna

> 610 and from the minor leagues, in case you hadn't guessed from my

tag line,

> not the KLR but the Honda XL650. WDF??? Ok, the KTM and the HP2 are

heavy

> weights and the Husky is pretty much a street legal dirt bike, but

why the

> Honda and no mention of our "prescious". I haven't read it yet. I'm

still

> steaming. Seems to me that the KLR would hold its own against the

Honda and

> Husky at least they are in the same league but the KTM and BMW are

in a

> different class? I don't know if I should be pissed or just face

the fact

> that there is yet another refinement of motorcycles. We have the

dual

> sporters like the KLR and the Suzuki-the Honda belongs here too,

then we go

> to the "Adventure" bikes, the big bore desert cruisers, the KTM

950, BMW GS,

> Aprilia Capornordo,(?) then the thinly disguised road bikes like

the V Strom

> and Triumph Scrambler. What are things coming to? Is the KLR not an > adventure bike? Maybe its just a dual sport. Whats in a name anyway. >

[Douglas Bouley]

Or even more likely (maybe) is that the 20 yr old KLR is just not sexy editorial material anymore. I 'spect choosing article content is a lot about entertaining readers. So what is more likely to catch aleast-common-denominator reader's eye, an old model swiss army knife or the latest expensive combat steel? -d

On Apr 2, 2006, at 3:27 , revmaaatin wrote: > Hi Mike, > Annoying to be ignored on isn't it. Worse when it is on a national > scale. Perhaps the reasons you offered are not all the reasons why > the KLR was not included, one that I would suggest is > "Option K" > K=Kawasaki, or K=Kash. > > I am not privy to all the dealing of writing a motorcycle article, > road test, but it seems to me, it starts out as a 1) discussion in a > board room, sometimes influenced by bias, and then moves to 2) who > will give us a motorcycle (k=Kawasaki) to thrash and say good/bad > things about and 3) what do we do with the bike (k=kash) when the > project is over. > > It would be nice if a publication like Consumers Reports, who buys > the equipment off a lot (that's their story) and then does the ride > report without the factory offering a "tuned example" of that model. > In them (CR) I have the most faith, each vehicle tested in > a "certified, unbiased environment" (what ever that means) and the > test report then written without the influence of kash. (at least we > hope so.) > > Someone with more experience in R&D could comment, but from being in > military acquisitions, the contractor builder wants to influence the > test as much as possible, and I suspect, in many cases, the reports > are not with some K factor bias. But I could be wrong. > > revmaaatin. > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: >> >> I just opened the latest Cycle world and found a comparo of > 4 "Adventure" >> bikes. I got all excited, bent out of shape. Finally an article > that I would >> actulaly relate to. They rode the big KTM 950, the BMW HP2, the > Husqvarna >> 610 and from the minor leagues, in case you hadn't guessed from my > tag line, >> not the KLR but the Honda XL650. WDF??? Ok, the KTM and the HP2 are > heavy >> weights and the Husky is pretty much a street legal dirt bike, but > why the >> Honda and no mention of our "prescious". I haven't read it yet. I'm > still >> steaming. Seems to me that the KLR would hold its own against the > Honda and >> Husky at least they are in the same league but the KTM and BMW are > in a >> different class? I don't know if I should be pissed or just face > the fact >> that there is yet another refinement of motorcycles. We have the > dual >> sporters like the KLR and the Suzuki-the Honda belongs here too, > then we go >> to the "Adventure" bikes, the big bore desert cruisers, the KTM > 950, BMW GS, >> Aprilia Capornordo,(?) then the thinly disguised road bikes like > the V Strom >> and Triumph Scrambler. What are things coming to? Is the KLR not an >> adventure bike? Maybe its just a dual sport. Whats in a name anyway. >> > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Ramses]

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