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[Bill Benda MD]

Hello all - I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time added a K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice that when I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway, the front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am going. Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so. Really freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur today. I removed the handlebar mounted Memphis Shields Demon, with some improvement but she still the oscillates for a couple of seconds at higher speeds if I give the bars a shake. Has anyone experienced this with the Contis? Does it happen with the Dunlops (and other makes) and I just never noticed? Anything else to check? I have a front fender bag but removing it did not make any difference. I'd like to trust the mount again at higher speeds . . . Bill

[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:06:41 -0800 Bill Benda MD writes:

> Hello all - > > I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time > added a > K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice > that when > I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway, > the > front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am > going. > Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so. > Really > freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur > today. > > I removed the handlebar mounted Memphis Shields Demon, with some > improvement > but she still the oscillates for a couple of seconds at higher > speeds if I > give the bars a shake. Has anyone experienced this with the Contis? > Does > it happen with the Dunlops (and other makes) and I just never > noticed? > Anything else to check? I have a front fender bag but removing it > did not > make any difference. > > I'd like to trust the mount again at higher speeds . . . > > Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bill, I'm wondering if the steering head bearings are just a tad loose. Do you get a bad shake around 40 when you let off the bars and the bike decelerates? Don't take your hands far from the bars when you test it as if it shakes you want to be able to dampen it immediately. Head shake is a pretty common symptom of loose heads bearings and they don't have to be very loose to cause the shake. If you have maybe 15,000 or more miles on your rear shock that might be causing the problem too. Once the shock is worn it can affect the handling in some weird ways. Good luck getting it figured out. Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[wannabsmooth1]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Benda MD wrote:

> > Hello all - > > I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time

added a

> K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice

that when

> I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway, the > front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am

going.

> Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so. Really > freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur today. >

SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Bill >

Bill, You're initiating the action, if I'm reading this correctly........So, how much do you weigh? What tire pressures are you running? Have you lubed and adjusted the steering head bearings? What are your suspension settings? Have you added Progressive springs to the front, and adjusted the preload and oil? All of these can and will affect your handling and stability....... :)Also how may miles on the bike and condition of the rear shock? Let's start with tire pressure, and be sure what you're running is optimum for where and how you ride, and go down the list, ok? all the best, Mike

[John Biccum]

I have 25K on Contis with no issues. The TKC80s are my favorite on and off road tire. I'd check the balance on the front wheel and I'd also check the headset to see if it is too loose. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Benda MD Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:07 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fear Factor . . . Hello all - I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time added a K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice that when I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway, the front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am going. Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so. Really freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur today. I removed the handlebar mounted Memphis Shields Demon, with some improvement but she still the oscillates for a couple of seconds at higher speeds if I give the bars a shake. Has anyone experienced this with the Contis? Does it happen with the Dunlops (and other makes) and I just never noticed? Anything else to check? I have a front fender bag but removing it did not make any difference. I'd like to trust the mount again at higher speeds . . . Bill Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[Chris Jennings]

"at the same time added a K9 fork brace." Would the fork brace cause this?

[Rodney Copeland]

I'm not sure how many miles you have on the your new tires Bill, but every new set of tires I've ever mounted have acted that way. The first thing I've learned to do is take them immediately to the soft dirt and sandy riding areas to scrub off the mold release that is always present. Rod --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Benda MD wrote:

> > Hello all - > > I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time

added a

> K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice

that when

> I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway,

the

> front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am

going.

> Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so.

Really

> freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur

today.

> > I removed the handlebar mounted Memphis Shields Demon, with some

improvement

> but she still the oscillates for a couple of seconds at higher

speeds if I

> give the bars a shake. Has anyone experienced this with the

Contis? Does

> it happen with the Dunlops (and other makes) and I just never

noticed?

> Anything else to check? I have a front fender bag but removing it

did not

> make any difference. > > I'd like to trust the mount again at higher speeds . . . > > Bill >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jennings wrote:

> > "at the same time added a K9 fork brace." > > Would the fork brace cause this? >

Most people find that a fork brace stabilizes the bike.

[Bill Benda MD]

Thanks for the input so far. I weigh 200 lbs. The KLR has about 3300 miles. The tires were just put on by the dealer, so I assume the pressures are appropriate for road use (and I'll check). Haven't touched the steering head bearings yet. I do have Progressives on the front, also installed by the dealer at the 500 mi service. I've got about 150 miles on the Contis, including fire roads. I'll check for wobble under deceleration. Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions . . . Bill

On 1/8/06 9:50 PM, "wannabsmooth1" wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Benda MD wrote: >> >> Hello all - >> >> I replaced the OEM Dunlops with Conti TKC 80s and at the same time > added a >> K9 fork brace. Big improvement on the twisties, but now I notice > that when >> I give the handlebars a shake at 55 mph or above on a straightaway, the >> front end oscillates for a couple of seconds, worse the faster I am > going. >> Happens even when I give a wiggle in the saddle above 60 or so. Really >> freaked me out passing a Mercedes doing 80 on Hwy 1 in Big Sur today. >> > SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Bill >> > Bill, > > You're initiating the action, if I'm reading this correctly........So, > how much do you weigh? What tire pressures are you running? Have you > lubed and adjusted the steering head bearings? What are your > suspension settings? Have you added Progressive springs to the front, > and adjusted the preload and oil? All of these can and will affect > your handling and stability....... :)Also how may miles on the bike > and condition of the rear shock? Let's start with tire pressure, and > be sure what you're running is optimum for where and how you ride, and > go down the list, ok? > > all the best, > > Mike > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Eric Lee Green]

Jud Jones wrote:

>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jennings wrote: > > >>"at the same time added a K9 fork brace." >> >>Would the fork brace cause this? >> >> >> > >Most people find that a fork brace stabilizes the bike. > > >

Not if it's installed in such a way that it causes fork binding.

[Bill Benda MD]

How would I know if there is fork binding? Bill

On 1/9/06 8:31 AM, "Eric Lee Green" wrote: > Jud Jones wrote: > >> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jennings wrote: >> >> >>> "at the same time added a K9 fork brace." >>> >>> Would the fork brace cause this? >>> >>> >>> >> >> Most people find that a fork brace stabilizes the bike. >> >> >> > Not if it's installed in such a way that it causes fork binding. > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >