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[Lourd Baltimore]

Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was. Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc. Josh A7 . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Stephen Grisanti]

Can't help you with the law. My guess is if you run it you'll have to explain it to the judge. The PO of my trusty A14 installed a magnet that is supposed to trigger the pickup on the loop at traffic lights, but I have not noticed any improvement due to this and just recently...well, anticipated a green, let's say. Stephen --- Lourd Baltimore wrote:

> Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with > motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to > trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle > (and when safe of course). I believe one of the > instructors in my MSF course said something, but I > can't remember what the deal was. > > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for > people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting > down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, > killing the engine then restarting, trying to put > the most metal over an intersection of sensor > strips, etc. > > > Josh > A7 > . > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Ben Williams]

Hey Josh- I suspect we hit a lot of the same lights since I live just across the river- north Melbourne, off Post Rd. I tried a magnet without any noticable improvement. For the last several months I've made a point to pull up to a stoplight in the middle of the lane- where the sensor wires come together. I no longer have a problem with any of the lights in town. If I know there is traffic behind me I wait and let them trip the signal. But if there's no one else around, this seems to work every time. As it turns out, this is the recommendation of the MSF course as well. Ben Lourd Baltimore wrote: Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was. Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc. Josh A7 . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris]

> From: Lourd Baltimore > Subject: Traffic Light Sensors > > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.

See if you can find your state's code online (most states have it available) and look for something along the lines of "malfunctioning traffic control device." Typically, it tells you to treat it as an all-way stop. This is _not_ a guaranteed free ride through court if you get stopped for it, but seems to be the best argument available. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok Explosion Dynamics Laboratory John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

[Arden Kysely]

I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for traffic), and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore wrote:

> > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and

traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.

> > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the

sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.

> > > Josh > A7 > . > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[scarysharkface]

I'm told by someone who is familiar with such things that affixing as large of a copper loop as possible to the underside will do the trick. Of course, that's not exactly convenient or maybe even safe. It may be pure fantasy, but I seem to notice a difference with large steel ammocan panniers on the bike... John

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job. Jeff A20 -----Original Message----- From: Arden Kysely To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for traffic), and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore wrote:

> > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and

traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember what the deal was.

> > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the

sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc.

> > > Josh > A7 > . > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jokerloco9@a... wrote:

> > > I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with

the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job.

> > Jeff A20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arden Kysely > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors > > > I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't > change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make > sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the > bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that > the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for

traffic),

> and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore > wrote: > > > > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles

and

> traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light > after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the > instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember > what the deal was. > > > > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip

the

> sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting

magnets

> on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the > most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc. > > > > > > Josh > > A7 > > . > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:

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[Arden Kysely]

Sorry about that blank reply. What I meant to say was... I'm the nicest guy a CHP ever stopped--helmet off, sunglasses off, license, reg, insurance card out. Possibly some minor body language telltales if I'm pissed, but that's it. I figure my lack of attitude is one reason I'm at least 60/40 warnings to tickets over the years. I've been running this light for 20 years, so I'm well rehearsed for the inevitable. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jokerloco9@a... wrote: > > > I would also add to be make sure to pass the "attitude test" with the officer. Explain what you did very politely. That will go a long way. After all, he is just doing his/her job. > > Jeff A20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arden Kysely > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:29:50 -0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Traffic Light Sensors > > > I run a light on my way to work in SoCal frequently. It flat won't > change for a motorcycle. First I make sure it's safe, then I make > sure a CHP isn't turning the corner from their HQ just around the > bend, then I go. If I ever get stopped, I'm going to tell them that > the light is broken (which it is, since it won't change for traffic), > and I'm treating it per the vehicle code--as a stop sign. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore > wrote: > > > > Anyone know offhand what Florida's policy is with motorcycles and > traffic light sensors failing to trigger? I've just run the light > after one cycle (and when safe of course). I believe one of the > instructors in my MSF course said something, but I can't remember > what the deal was. > > > > Also, just curious which tricks have worked for people to trip the > sensors. I've read about putting down the kickstand, putting magnets > on your bike, killing the engine then restarting, trying to put the > most metal over an intersection of sensor strips, etc. > > > > > > Josh > > A7 > > . > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[E.L. Green]

Arden Kysely wrote:

>Sorry about that blank reply. What I meant to say was... > >I'm the nicest guy a CHP ever stopped--helmet off, sunglasses off, >license, reg, insurance card out. Possibly some minor body language >telltales if I'm pissed, but that's it. I figure my lack of attitude >is one reason I'm at least 60/40 warnings to tickets over the years. >I've been running this light for 20 years, so I'm well rehearsed for >the inevitable. > >

Erm, if you've been running this light for 20 years, why haven't you contacted the traffic control department to fix it? Just curious... -E