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[lippetd]

I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing difference! The gearbox feels so much smoother, I was so used to the clunking that came with each shift. I also always had problems lugging if I let the revs drop to 2k, now I can practically crawl through the gears. My last bike was a Honda 350XL, I always felt my KLR was just a little bit lower quality, but now it feels as smooth as my Honda ever did. I am one happy guy. Tom Medford, OR

[James Morrow Sr]

I have done the same with all my bikes. The caution is you MUST make sure you are not using oil between changes. Anything less than 1/2 quart down after 3,000 is using oil to me. Only then can you be sure rings are sealed. Synthetic is 7X more slippery and will not help the rings seat, if not already seated. Some BMW's take up to 20,000 miles to seat rings. My RT and BUSA were fine at 6,000 and I changed to synthetic. Will change to synthetic at 6,000 on the KLR too, if all fine. It does make a difference for sure. I also go 6,000 miles before oil change on synthetic. Some/Most don't do this, but I have75,000 on RT and 40,000 on BUSA with no problems.

On 5/20/05, lippetd wrote: > I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the > first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing > difference! > > The gearbox feels so much smoother, I was so used to the clunking that > came with each shift. I also always had problems lugging if I let the > revs drop to 2k, now I can practically crawl through the gears. > > My last bike was a Honda 350XL, I always felt my KLR was just a little > bit lower quality, but now it feels as smooth as my Honda ever did. > > I am one happy guy. > > Tom > Medford, OR > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor

[scott quillen]

If synthetic will not allow rings to seat, why is it the factory fill in Corvettes (and has been for years)??? Do they break in the engines at the factory before filling with Mobil 1 to ship to dealers??? I used to believe the same thing...but now methinks it's a myth (urban legend). Just curious... Scott James Morrow Sr wrote: I have done the same with all my bikes. The caution is you MUST make sure you are not using oil between changes. Anything less than 1/2 quart down after 3,000 is using oil to me. Only then can you be sure rings are sealed. Synthetic is 7X more slippery and will not help the rings seat, if not already seated. Some BMW's take up to 20,000 miles to seat rings. My RT and BUSA were fine at 6,000 and I changed to synthetic. Will change to synthetic at 6,000 on the KLR too, if all fine. It does make a difference for sure. I also go 6,000 miles before oil change on synthetic. Some/Most don't do this, but I have75,000 on RT and 40,000 on BUSA with no problems. On 5/20/05, lippetd wrote:

> I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the > first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing > difference! > > The gearbox feels so much smoother, I was so used to the clunking that > came with each shift. I also always had problems lugging if I let the > revs drop to 2k, now I can practically crawl through the gears. > > My last bike was a Honda 350XL, I always felt my KLR was just a little > bit lower quality, but now it feels as smooth as my Honda ever did. > > I am one happy guy. > > Tom > Medford, OR > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

-- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[JRC]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "lippetd" wrote:

> I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the > first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing > difference!

Glad it worked for you. I switched to synthetic in one bike and could find no difference. Switched back. Run dino oil in both. JRC '01 LC1500 A13 KLR

[Rick McCauley]

I also got smoother shifting when I switched to Mobil 1 in my KLR. Rick A17 JRC wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "lippetd" wrote:

> I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the > first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing > difference!

Glad it worked for you. I switched to synthetic in one bike and could find no difference. Switched back. Run dino oil in both. JRC '01 LC1500 A13 KLR Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[JRC]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote:

> I also got smoother shifting when I switched to Mobil 1 in my KLR.

When you changed to Mobil 1, did you also change viscosity? If so, the improvement could have been due to either.

[Rick McCauley]

The only differenc is that I went from 10W 40 to 10W 30 I hope I can find 10W 40 Mobil 1 next time Rick A17 JRC wrote:

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > I also got smoother shifting when I switched to Mobil 1 in my KLR. When you changed to Mobil 1, did you also change viscosity? If so, the improvement could have been due to either. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bogdan Swider]

> The only differenc is that I went from 10W 40 to 10W 30 > I hope I can find 10W 40 Mobil 1 next time > > Rick A17

Or go for the full Monte, 20-50. Works for me even in the winter. Bogdan

[Rick McCauley]

I have always stirred away from 20W50 in bikes. I want the oil to the cam as fast as possible. I think 20w base takes longer to get there. Especially on chilly mornings Rick A17 Bogdan Swider wrote:

> The only differenc is that I went from 10W 40 to 10W 30 > I hope I can find 10W 40 Mobil 1 next time > > Rick A17

Or go for the full Monte, 20-50. Works for me even in the winter. Bogdan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James Morrow Sr]

I don't think you can compare cars to bikes. Completely different weight, power, torgue. Most bikes have extremely hard liners, BMW and others use Nikasil. I just know it is a problem with bikes, some bikes???. Never heard of the problem in cars. I use synthetic right away in my cars.

On 5/20/05, scott quillen wrote: > If synthetic will not allow rings to seat, why is it the factory fill in > Corvettes (and has been for years)??? Do they break in the engines at the > factory before filling with Mobil 1 to ship to dealers??? > > I used to believe the same thing...but now methinks it's a myth (urban > legend). > > Just curious... > > Scott > > James Morrow Sr wrote: > I have done the same with all my bikes. The caution is you MUST make > sure you are not using oil between changes. Anything less than 1/2 > quart down after 3,000 is using oil to me. Only then can you be sure > rings are sealed. Synthetic is 7X more slippery and will not help the > rings seat, if not already seated. Some BMW's take up to 20,000 miles > to seat rings. My RT and BUSA were fine at 6,000 and I changed to > synthetic. Will change to synthetic at 6,000 on the KLR too, if all > fine. It does make a difference for sure. I also go 6,000 miles > before oil change on synthetic. Some/Most don't do this, but I > have75,000 on RT and 40,000 on BUSA with no problems. > > > > > > On 5/20/05, lippetd wrote: > > I just switched my A16 to Mobil 1 20w50 at 5500 miles. This is the > > first time I have ever used synthetic in anything. What an amazing > > difference! > > > > The gearbox feels so much smoother, I was so used to the clunking that > > came with each shift. I also always had problems lugging if I let the > > revs drop to 2k, now I can practically crawl through the gears. > > > > My last bike was a Honda 350XL, I always felt my KLR was just a little > > bit lower quality, but now it feels as smooth as my Honda ever did. > > > > I am one happy guy. > > > > Tom > > Medford, OR > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > James Morrow Sr > Union, MO > '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse > '00' BUSA + 15hp > '05' KLR650 + big fun factor > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor