oil filter inspections

[kelpo2001]

Has anyone tried the Bridgestone Trailmaster 18 rear tire? There has been lots of tire talk, but I can't recall any mention of this tire. I tried to get a TK80, but for some reason it was not available from my local supplier in northern Ontario. The Trailmaster 18 was available and the tread design looked about right so I ordered one. After reading about all the troubles others have had installing tires I approached the task prepared for a tough time. As it turned out the original Dunlop tire bead broke with one stomp of my boot and the Trailmaster tire spooned on real easy using the only two tire irons I have. Even though I lubed the last third with WD40 I'm sure it would have gone on without any lube. The beads seated before I got 30 psi into the new HD tube. Seems like an easy tire to install, but I am wondering how it performs on the gravel roads I often drive on. The tread is more agressive than the OEM tire. I won't get a chance to try it until about April 15 when enough ice has melted off the roads. Its that magical time of year when I can finally drive my bike and still be able to drive the Skidoo... at least on the lake ice. Picture of this tire at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelpo2001/detail?.dir=b305&.dnm=263f.j pg> I'll post a report on my impressions of this tire after I've had a chance to ride it a bit. Richard Korpela A15 Chapleau, ON

[Bob Palin]

"Even though I lubed the last third with WD40" That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will remain slippery much longer than soap and water or the real rubber lube leading to a greater possibility of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the valve. Bob Palin

[kelpo2001]

Sorry...the tire is a "Trailwing" not Trailmaster. Don't know why I made that mistake. Richard

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kelpo2001" wrote: > > Has anyone tried the Bridgestone Trailmaster 18 rear tire? > There has been lots of tire talk, but I can't recall any mention of > this tire. I tried to get a TK80, but for some reason it was not > available from my local supplier in northern Ontario. The > Trailmaster 18 was available and the tread design looked about right > so I ordered one. After reading about all the troubles others have > had installing tires I approached the task prepared for a tough > time. As it turned out the original Dunlop tire bead broke with one > stomp of my boot and the Trailmaster tire spooned on real easy using > the only two tire irons I have. Even though I lubed the last third > with WD40 I'm sure it would have gone on without any lube. The beads > seated before I got 30 psi into the new HD tube. > Seems like an easy tire to install, but I am wondering how it > performs on the gravel roads I often drive on. The tread is more > agressive than the OEM tire. I won't get a chance to try it until > about April 15 when enough ice has melted off the roads. Its that > magical time of year when I can finally drive my bike and still be > able to drive the Skidoo... at least on the lake ice. > Picture of this tire at > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelpo2001/detail?.dir=b305&.dnm=263f.j > pg> > I'll post a report on my impressions of this tire after I've had a > chance to ride it a bit. > > Richard Korpela > A15 > Chapleau, ON

[Bogdan Swider]

> > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will remain slippery much longer > than soap and water or the real rubber lube leading to a greater possibility > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the valve.

I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube. No problems at all. Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use it routinely. FWIW I now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which should be a lifetime supply. Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra lotion.

[tselacanth]

Additional info.: To see if the filter media is completely bonded/sealed to the end cap you need good eyes up close (mine aren't so great) and/or a magnifier. I also used a mini-maglite on the outside to inspect the bond/seal, and in a darkened room, shined the m-m inside the filter (using spot beam) and viewed the filter media to end cap bond/seal from the ouside; unbonded areas show up as a light leak, and might even be more visible with one of the m-m colored lens filters (need to find them). There are several oil filter inspection web sites on the internet but I haven't seen any that discuss filter media to end cap bond/seal quality/integrity. I only stumbled on this subject after I measured and closely inspected the filter reported on in my first oil filter post. It seems that manufacturing an oil filter cartridge with the proper amount and uniformity of end sealant, and a satisfactory bond/seal to the filter media may not be such an easy or repeatable thing. Jim A17 --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "tselacanth" wrote:

> > Oil Filter Inspections > > In message 131884, I noted a defective Kawasaki oil filter (P/N

16099-

> 004, Made in Japan) I have. This filter had unbonded/unsealed areas > at each end of the filter between the ends of the filter media > element and the metal end caps. These areas would likely allow oil

to

> bypass the filter media. > > I have since purchased and inspected a Wix 24951 and a Fram CH6070. > These two filters are made in Korea, appear to be very similar,

have

> similar markings, and are possibly from the same source. > > The Wix filter visually appears to have a complete bond/seal

between

> the ends of the filter media element and the metal end caps; the > adhesive/sealant extends just inside the center tube on both ends. > > On the Fram filter, one end appears to have 1 pleat root bond/seal > defect. The other end appears to have 5 pleat root bond/seal

defects

> of varying sizes; the center tube bond is incomplete on each end. > This filter would likely allow oil to bypass the filter media. > > FWIW > > Jim A17

[W.V. Doran]

I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix almost anything. It's the only thing I use for mounting tires on the road or at home. I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to the rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking the bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough. WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum knee. --- Bogdan Swider wrote:

> > > > > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will > remain slippery much longer > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube > leading to a greater possibility > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the > valve. > > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube. > No problems at all. > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use > it routinely. FWIW I > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which > should be a lifetime > supply. > > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra > lotion.

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[Joseph Jones]

I don't expect many people to belive this,,,,but I have used wd40 on my knees and IT WORKS some. Maybe it is one of those mental things but it does work, and at times I will try almost anything short of the .45 auto.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "W.V. Doran" wrote: > I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work > because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix > almost anything. It's the only thing I use for > mounting tires on the road or at home. > I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to the > rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking the > bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough. > WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum knee. > --- Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will > > remain slippery much longer > > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube > > leading to a greater possibility > > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the > > valve. > > > > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube. > > No problems at all. > > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use > > it routinely. FWIW I > > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which > > should be a lifetime > > supply. > > > > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra > > lotion. > > > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

[W.V. Doran]

I understand...I have s*%# for knees and anything that helps, mental or whatever is worth trying. I wonder... Would it be better to use PJ1 Blue, ChainWax or WD40? --- Joseph Jones wrote:

> > > I don't expect many people to belive this,,,,but I > have used wd40 on > my knees and IT WORKS some. Maybe it is one of those > mental things > but it does work, and at times I will try almost > anything short of > the .45 auto. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "W.V. Doran" > wrote: > > I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work > > because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix > > almost anything. It's the only thing I use for > > mounting tires on the road or at home. > > I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to > the > > rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking > the > > bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough. > > > WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum > knee. > > --- Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will > > > remain slippery much longer > > > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube > > > leading to a greater possibility > > > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching > the > > > valve. > > > > > > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a > lube. > > > No problems at all. > > > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - > use > > > it routinely. FWIW I > > > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon > which > > > should be a lifetime > > > supply. > > > > > > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama > sutra > > > lotion. > > > > > > WVDoran > > Scottsdale, AZ > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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