glenns' forum having issues again (nkl)

[Abbie]

Gentlemen(?) I use the heated liner with no problem--draws 77 watts according to manufacturer--and would like to add the gloves which draw an additional 22 watts. Anyone using this combo? Am I likely to experience problems? Bike is an '03 with no other electrical add-ons except kisan headlight modulator and brake light flasher. Thanks. Aldee

[bigfatgreenbike]

A steady 99watt load on top of the headlight and other regular stuff is getting a bit high. You can still do it, but you'll either have to turn something off when you're not at highway speeds, or free up some power by converting a few other lights to LEDs. I run a 45w Aerostich vest, + 22w heated grip wraps, and I trickle charge the battery once a week in the wintertime. I also did taillight LED conversion and I removed the stock instruments for other reasons, and use a Trailtech digital speedo instead. The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if you convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there. The LEd brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher, so you could sell the flasher you have on Ebay and recoup a bit of the cost. The instrument lighting LEDs are something that other people on the list have already done, hopefully they will chime in with the Radio Shack part #s. Devon abbietamber@... wrote:

>Gentlemen(?) > >I use the heated liner with no problem--draws 77 watts according to >manufacturer--and would like to add the gloves which draw an >additional 22 watts. Anyone using this combo? Am I likely to >experience problems? Bike is an '03 with no other electrical add-ons >except kisan headlight modulator and brake light flasher. Thanks. > >Aldee > >

[gpokluda]

You'll be pushing the charging system. Make sure you only run your heated gear when you are in the higher rev range where the max output of the charging system is achieved and keep a BAttery Tender or other "float" charger on your battery regularly - every couple of days. Gino Rider Valley Motorcycles

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Abbie" wrote: > > Gentlemen(?) > > I use the heated liner with no problem--draws 77 watts according to > manufacturer--and would like to add the gloves which draw an > additional 22 watts. Anyone using this combo? Am I likely to > experience problems? Bike is an '03 with no other electrical add- ons > except kisan headlight modulator and brake light flasher. Thanks. > > Aldee

[dooden]

Ya Ya.. somebody pipe in with the LED bulbs that work in the instrument cluster.... I think they are a bit too bright anyway, not really about saving power, more about brightness for me. Pitch dark riding there is just too much light for me. (Worse in the woods) Dooden A15 Green Ape... Burrrrrrrrr seen first snow this morning... nothing to amount to anything, but still.... Burrrrrrrrr --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> A steady 99watt load on top of the headlight and other regular stuff

SNIP

> The instrument lighting LEDs are something that other people on the

list

> have already done, hopefully they will chime in with the Radio Shack > part #s. > > Devon > > abbietamber@f... wrote: > > >Gentlemen(?)

SNIP

[Eric L. Green]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if you > convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there. The LEd > brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher, so you

Just out of curiousity, how well does that LED brakelight work? I ask because a common problem with LED lights of this sort is that they emit light in only one direction, and thus don't light up the lens fully. I was thinking of swapping my tail light/brake light bulb for one that is slightly brighter and getting a brake light flasher in order to make my brake light more visible (right now if I'm sitting at a stop light with my brakes on, cars just see a light, they can't tell it's a brake light 'cause they never saw it switch from dim to bright), but if the LED one works well... -E

[Chris]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 11:00:38AM -0700, Eric L. Green wrote:

> > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, bigfatgreenbike wrote: > > The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if you > > convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there. The LEd > > brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher, so you > > Just out of curiousity, how well does that LED brakelight work? I ask > > -E

I was there when he first put one on. It's *very* bright and the flasher is nearly a strobing effect. Far brighter than the stock. It's far far brighter than the cheapie LED bar the previous owner of my bike stuck on above the stock lens. Worth the cost IMO. It's made of the later generation high intensity LED's not the cheapies that the less expensive lights are pawning off. -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.kingsqueak.org/klr650/

[bigfatgreenbike]

ericnospam@... wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, bigfatgreenbike wrote: > > >>The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if you >>convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there. The LEd >>brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher, so you >> >> > >Just out of curiousity, how well does that LED brakelight work? I ask >because a common problem with LED lights of this sort is that they emit >light in only one direction, and thus don't light up the lens fully. >

You can see the "X" pattern of the LEDs on the circuit board through the lens. From the sides, up to a 45deg angle from the centerline, it's the same as the stock headlamp or slightly brighter. Directly behind, it's almost like putting a red filter over the headlight. Really bright. Expensive. But in the end, having been pulled over once by a state trooper who said he nearly ran me over because there was NO lighting from the rear of the bike (blown taillight bulb) and a near-miss rear end in the city (another blown taillight), I put retro-reflective tape on the fender and switched to an LED bulb. Devon

[Glenn]

Your rear signals can be made into running lights incase your bulb blows and you don't realize it. KLR's come stock with two round reflectors on the license plate for that reason. -- Glenn http://www.klr650.net --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> > > ericnospam@b... wrote: > > >On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, bigfatgreenbike wrote: > > > > > >>The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if

you

> >>convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there.

The LEd

> >>brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher,

so you

> >> > >> > > > >Just out of curiousity, how well does that LED brakelight work? I

ask

> >because a common problem with LED lights of this sort is that they

emit

> >light in only one direction, and thus don't light up the lens

fully.

> > > > You can see the "X" pattern of the LEDs on the circuit board

through the

> lens. From the sides, up to a 45deg angle from the centerline, it's

the

> same as the stock headlamp or slightly brighter. Directly behind,

it's

> almost like putting a red filter over the headlight. Really bright. > > Expensive. But in the end, having been pulled over once by a state > trooper who said he nearly ran me over because there was NO

lighting

> from the rear of the bike (blown taillight bulb) and a near-miss

rear

> end in the city (another blown taillight), I put retro-reflective

tape

> on the fender and switched to an LED bulb. > > Devon

[Lujo Bauer]

> The instrument lights + taillight draw about 24 watts total, if you > convert these to LEDs you'll make up for the gloves right there. The LEd > brakelight I got (dual-star.com) comes with an embedded flasher, so you > could sell the flasher you have on Ebay and recoup a bit of the cost. > The instrument lighting LEDs are something that other people on the list > have already done, hopefully they will chime in with the Radio Shack > part #s.

I tried four or five different kinds of LEDs for lighting the instrument panel, but I didn't find anything that was as good as stock. In the end I went with the brightest and least focused LED bulbs I found (each has four LEDs, I think), but the odometer is still near impossible to read, the speedo you have to squint at sometimes, and the high-beam indicator can't be seen in bright sunlight. -Lujo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Randall Marbach]

--- bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> . . . > and I removed the > stock instruments for other reasons, and use a > Trailtech digital speedo > instead. >

Hi Devon What did you do to replace the the temperature gauge, neutral and high beem indicators etc., when you removed the stock instruments ? TIA Randy from Burbank __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com