[dsn_klr650] insurance cost - again

[ned]

My piglet has smoked and consumed oil ever since it was new. I always thought it was rings that hadn't seated correctly, but after 6K miles the smoking and oil consumption remains about the same. It looks like I will have to rebuild the top end to fix this. Anyone else had a similar situation? or know why the rings would not have seated right to begin with? Can I just throw new rings in? or do I have hone and prep the cylinder for new rings and then do another break in period?

[James L. Miller Jr.]

As per personal experience, the "break in" period that the manufacturer asks you to go through isn't the best. Probably they're trying to do 2 things. Make sure it's out of warranty before you go tearing about or keeping you under the learning curve so you don't kill yourself on this new bike. Unless the valve seals were installed upside down, it's probably the rings. A re-ring and use a ball hone (just scuffing the inside to get the crosshatch back) would be the best/easeiest route in my mind. Personal experience and what I was taught is "ride it like you're gonna ride it". Meaning if you're going to tear along the dotted line, break it in that way. Auto's, bikes, farm equipment, never mattered to me. You've only got 15-20 miles to scuff the cylinders and rings in and the company has probably gotten 6-7 of that done for you. The pressure of the compression is what forces the rings outward (along with a bit of "spring" pressure). The harder you run it, the more pressure, the faster and tighter they'll seat. I ran the piss out of everything I've ever bought and the only one that ever used oil was my new Kawasaki that I DID do the factory recommended break-in( maybe I was being nice to it?) Since the rebuild and re-bore, I ran the living hell out of it from the time I started it until the last time I turned it off. The "new, improved" version of my bike didn't use a drop of oil since the last oil change. In the last trip (2600 miles) it didn't use a bit of oil and the trip was mostly high speed 4 lane driving. Oil changes are between 1500-3000 miles depending on where I am, how busy I am and the price of oil. Pennzoil 10W40 is all I use. Your mileage might vary, as well as your oil consumption. millerized (oh yeah, my front brake works fine too!)

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "ned" wrote: > My piglet has smoked and consumed oil ever since it was new. I always > thought it was rings that hadn't seated correctly, but after 6K miles > the smoking and oil consumption remains about the same. It looks like > I will have to rebuild the top end to fix this. Anyone else had a > similar situation? or know why the rings would not have seated right > to begin with? Can I just throw new rings in? or do I have hone and > prep the cylinder for new rings and then do another break in period?

[Dan Bittner]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Bittner" To: "Mike Torst" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Insurance cost - again You guys probably won't believe this, can hardly believe it my self, but my annual premium for 2 bikes, the 02 KLR and the 03 Yamaha YZF600R, 100/300 liability only, Progressive, is $105.00 a year. $37.00 a year for the KLR and $68.00 for the YZF. I'm 53, no tickets or wrecks, no claims. Been with progressive for over 20 years. I get a good driver discount and a nice discount for the MSF courses. Haven't called on the third bike yet, but I expect it will be similarly reasonable. Comp & collision in Sacramento is another story, I can't remember the quotes, but it was shockingly BIG dollars, so I don't carry it on any of my vehicles. If ones ever stolen or I wad one up though, I'll be crying some very big tears. Dan Bittner Sacramento 02 A16 KLR 03 YZF600R 04 KTM 950 Adv. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Torst" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 1:56 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Insurance cost - again > > > > Hey everyone - How about when we do this insurance cost Q, we include a > key > > factor - location. > > > > I live in Las Vegas and full coverage 100/300 (same for under and un > > insured) w/ a 250 deductible for comp and collision. $344 a year w/ > > Progressive. I can cut it by about 30% if I remove the remove the > collision > > coverage. > > > > Determining the cost of insurance requires coverage disclosures and > location > > info. Without location info, a lot of hopeful shopping will fail to > deliver > > savings. > > > > > > > > Mike Torst > > Las Vegas

[dooden]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "James L. Miller Jr." wrote: Pennzoil 10W40 is all I use.

> Your mileage might vary, as well as your oil consumption. > millerized > (oh yeah, my front brake works fine too!) >

Holy Crap Batman !!! I did'nt know you had to oil the brakes.... Dooden A15 Green Ape